round 2 the AFL one sided games & smashings begin

[King-Eliagh]

Xman I'm happy you've finally come to your senses but 1 week! Man thats lamo. And what about the dumbarse points?

6 weeks and 5 dumbarse points was half my original wager. Now I know three months was pretty large so hows about we drop it to 1month and 5 dumbarse points?

[eelofwest]

Fine, I'll take the bet. Here are my terms. The winner gets to pick a new avatar of their choice for the loser who h to wear it for 1 week.

Take it or leave it.

Omg was that so hard Xman geezes man your finally going through puberty congrats.

[Xman]

Xman I'm happy you've finally come to your senses but 1 week! Man thats lamo. And what about the dumbarse points?

6 weeks and 5 dumbarse points was half my original wager. Now I know three months was pretty large so hows about we drop it to 1month and 5 dumbarse points?

Well KE, you set the terms of the bet, saying the lions had to beat 2 teams above them on the ladder by rnd 11. I now know that the only teams they play at home that are above them are top 3 teams. therefore the chances of me winning are slim so i am not willing to risk much.

Comprehendae? :P

[King-Eliagh]

I didnt just give you the lions, I gave you GWS, GC and Melb to win two games against teams who are not either GWS, GC, Melb or Bris. Thats four basketcases and four chances for you to win. Comon dont be a chicken. To put things into perspective by round 7 last year the GC had won two of their games on top of having the bye in the first round. I spose there's a difference this year with four basketcases rather than 1 but now you have four chances to get those 2 wins against teams other than the four basketcases.

You sure you cant rethink the wager Xman?

[Dogs]

And the smashing will continue for many years to come

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/12/wi ... s-run-dry/

It takes much more than a million-dollar contract to recruit players in order to build a successful football club.
As the football world’s beliefs have been confirmed, the foundations upon which the Gold Coast Suns and Greater Western Sydney have been built are unstable.
Within the past decade proud Victorian clubs such as Melbourne, Hawthorn, Footscray, North Melbourne and Richmond have struggled to keep afloat, both on and off the field.
Despite being proud, traditional clubs with loyal fan-bases these clubs were outright struggling to exist.
Yet each club respectively had board members to stand up and ensure that they remained financially stable.
Some have since delivered some sort of on-field success.
North Melbourne President James Brayshaw was an extreme advocate for his club, getting all North members on board to boost the club financially.
He kept them coming to the games, doing his utmost to ensure crowd numbers for home games remained respectable.
While North Melbourne are not by any means a financial powerhouse in the AFL they have come a long way since a few years ago.
Their facilities have improved, their list management is better and relocation talks have been put to rest.
The same story goes for Melbourne and Richmond.
While neither have experienced great on-field success – and both have had their fair share of controversies – both clubs are in a much better financial position than they were a few years ago.
So the one question that has been niggling for two years is, if there were clubs already struggling in the AFL then exactly how was bringing two new AFL teams into the competition going to eradicate this?
A few years on and we now have 18 teams in the competition, which also means approximately 100 new players in the AFL, excluding the new draft picks from the previous year who went to clubs elsewhere.
Furthermore, there are more run-of-the-mill players coming through the AFL ranks than ever before, to allow for the two new team lists.
This all equates to less authentic AFL-standard talent.
There are more recycled players lured by a hefty pay cheque. There are more non-contracted players being hunted from other clubs. There are more completely lopsided matches, week in, week out.
There is now a struggle to keep substantial crowds coming in for Gold Coast or Greater Western Sydney games.
The biggest concern of all remains these clubs’ ability to take uncontracted players from other teams in the competition.
Admittedly, players have always moved clubs for money.
The only difference from the past, in terms of attracting players from other clubs, is that back then players moved for both the money and the opportunity to experience success.
They knew it would make the move worth more than just the dollar value.
Can you imagine if Fremantle were given a great deal of cash back in their humble beginnings, trying to lure Brownlow medallist James Hird from Essendon?
Wouldn’t have happened.
These days, however, the two new clubs on the block have the money and the questionable right to offer the big bucks to uncontracted players from all over the league.
This, despite them likely to be sitting comfortably at the bottom of the ladder for some time to come in two non-Aussie-Rules states.
The re-signing of Tiger Brett Deledio for five years and Magpie Scott Pendlebury for a four-year contract at their respective clubs has put many speculating critics back in their place.
Players already know that a move to either Gold Coast or GWS is not going to be a fast road to success.
Perhaps now they’re realising that the hardships each club is set to face for a long time to come far outweigh the allure of the extra money.
It will be a true testament to the character of the non-contracted players as to who is enticed by cash and who remains a loyal clubman, in this greedy day and age of our game.
The AFL has encouraged and supported these two new teams endlessly.
Now the football world is left to simply ponder why the AFL has become so money driven and in turn oblivious to the struggles that these two teams will face for a substantial amount of time.
Hawthorn, Footscray (now Western Bulldogs), North Melbourne, Melbourne and Richmond were only able to survive via the loyal, passionate diehards of each respective club.
Without that network of support who knows where these clubs would be.
While the AFL can inject all the money, advertising and support into these new clubs, unfortunately clubs supporters’ loyalty and generosity are not buyable assets.
While this has been the inevitable situation for over a year now, it is becoming alarmingly apparent that the rush to get these clubs into the AFL was a botched one, built on a money-driven expansion plan.
If only the AFL had thought about the true assets that build the foundations of a football club.

[Dogs]

And the smashing will continue for many years to come

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/12/wi ... s-run-dry/

It takes much more than a million-dollar contract to recruit players in order to build a successful football club.
As the football world’s beliefs have been confirmed, the foundations upon which the Gold Coast Suns and Greater Western Sydney have been built are unstable.
Within the past decade proud Victorian clubs such as Melbourne, Hawthorn, Footscray, North Melbourne and Richmond have struggled to keep afloat, both on and off the field.
Despite being proud, traditional clubs with loyal fan-bases these clubs were outright struggling to exist.
Yet each club respectively had board members to stand up and ensure that they remained financially stable.
Some have since delivered some sort of on-field success.
North Melbourne President James Brayshaw was an extreme advocate for his club, getting all North members on board to boost the club financially.
He kept them coming to the games, doing his utmost to ensure crowd numbers for home games remained respectable.
While North Melbourne are not by any means a financial powerhouse in the AFL they have come a long way since a few years ago.
Their facilities have improved, their list management is better and relocation talks have been put to rest.
The same story goes for Melbourne and Richmond.
While neither have experienced great on-field success – and both have had their fair share of controversies – both clubs are in a much better financial position than they were a few years ago.
So the one question that has been niggling for two years is, if there were clubs already struggling in the AFL then exactly how was bringing two new AFL teams into the competition going to eradicate this?
A few years on and we now have 18 teams in the competition, which also means approximately 100 new players in the AFL, excluding the new draft picks from the previous year who went to clubs elsewhere.
Furthermore, there are more run-of-the-mill players coming through the AFL ranks than ever before, to allow for the two new team lists.
This all equates to less authentic AFL-standard talent.
There are more recycled players lured by a hefty pay cheque. There are more non-contracted players being hunted from other clubs. There are more completely lopsided matches, week in, week out.
There is now a struggle to keep substantial crowds coming in for Gold Coast or Greater Western Sydney games.
The biggest concern of all remains these clubs’ ability to take uncontracted players from other teams in the competition.
Admittedly, players have always moved clubs for money.
The only difference from the past, in terms of attracting players from other clubs, is that back then players moved for both the money and the opportunity to experience success.
They knew it would make the move worth more than just the dollar value.
Can you imagine if Fremantle were given a great deal of cash back in their humble beginnings, trying to lure Brownlow medallist James Hird from Essendon?
Wouldn’t have happened.
These days, however, the two new clubs on the block have the money and the questionable right to offer the big bucks to uncontracted players from all over the league.
This, despite them likely to be sitting comfortably at the bottom of the ladder for some time to come in two non-Aussie-Rules states.
The re-signing of Tiger Brett Deledio for five years and Magpie Scott Pendlebury for a four-year contract at their respective clubs has put many speculating critics back in their place.
Players already know that a move to either Gold Coast or GWS is not going to be a fast road to success.
Perhaps now they’re realising that the hardships each club is set to face for a long time to come far outweigh the allure of the extra money.
It will be a true testament to the character of the non-contracted players as to who is enticed by cash and who remains a loyal clubman, in this greedy day and age of our game.
The AFL has encouraged and supported these two new teams endlessly.
Now the football world is left to simply ponder why the AFL has become so money driven and in turn oblivious to the struggles that these two teams will face for a substantial amount of time.
Hawthorn, Footscray (now Western Bulldogs), North Melbourne, Melbourne and Richmond were only able to survive via the loyal, passionate diehards of each respective club.
Without that network of support who knows where these clubs would be.
While the AFL can inject all the money, advertising and support into these new clubs, unfortunately clubs supporters’ loyalty and generosity are not buyable assets.
While this has been the inevitable situation for over a year now, it is becoming alarmingly apparent that the rush to get these clubs into the AFL was a botched one, built on a money-driven expansion plan.
If only the AFL had thought about the true assets that build the foundations of a football club.

What I found is really interesting. Whilst reading some of the comments posted against this article, it appears our friend cos789 quitely knows that league is in good hands. The comments from our one and only cos789, in response to a AFL supporter trying to deflect the AFL issue into an NRL issue.

cos789 said | April 13th 2012 @ 12:31pm | Report comment

The NRL isn’t on shaky ground. The Knights have some pretty big firewalls between themselves and the Jets. The members of the Knights get to buy the whole club and its assets back for $1 if Tinkler tries this kind of thing.

The Titans aren’t down the gurgler – there are two groups with $20M and $35M respectively waiting like vultures for Michael Searles property assets to force him out.

The Sharks problems are now pretty much sorted, but hey bring up old news and hope its relevant right?

The club that I think is in most trouble atm is Penrith.

But the NRL is likely to get $1.2B TV deal as was published in the SMH / Age today. Things are going pretty good.

[King-Eliagh]

Yes dogs, wise words indeed. If only the fools in here had brains. I guess those who dont make comment maybe have brains and do know how dire this situation is and choose not to talk about it much like the decades long silence in Germany after the shame of WW11... But then you have Xman, a nutbag delusional testicle eyed poo spitter...making all the AFL folk look bad.

[eelofwest]

Yes dogs, wise words indeed. If only the fools in here had brains. I guess those who dont make comment maybe have brains and do know how dire this situation is and choose not to talk about it much like the decades long silence in Germany after the shame of WW11... But then you have Xman, a nutbag delusional testicle eyed poo spitter...making all the AFL folk look bad.

U know big ups to you cos789 for some balanced views, and here i thought you were a another Xman. :D

[Xman]

And the smashing will continue for many years to come

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/12/wi ... s-run-dry/

It takes much more than a million-dollar contract to recruit players in order to build a successful football club.
As the football world’s beliefs have been confirmed, the foundations upon which the Gold Coast Suns and Greater Western Sydney have been built are unstable.
Within the past decade proud Victorian clubs such as Melbourne, Hawthorn, Footscray, North Melbourne and Richmond have struggled to keep afloat, both on and off the field.
Despite being proud, traditional clubs with loyal fan-bases these clubs were outright struggling to exist.
Yet each club respectively had board members to stand up and ensure that they remained financially stable.
Some have since delivered some sort of on-field success.
North Melbourne President James Brayshaw was an extreme advocate for his club, getting all North members on board to boost the club financially.
He kept them coming to the games, doing his utmost to ensure crowd numbers for home games remained respectable.
While North Melbourne are not by any means a financial powerhouse in the AFL they have come a long way since a few years ago.
Their facilities have improved, their list management is better and relocation talks have been put to rest.
The same story goes for Melbourne and Richmond.
While neither have experienced great on-field success – and both have had their fair share of controversies – both clubs are in a much better financial position than they were a few years ago.
So the one question that has been niggling for two years is, if there were clubs already struggling in the AFL then exactly how was bringing two new AFL teams into the competition going to eradicate this?
A few years on and we now have 18 teams in the competition, which also means approximately 100 new players in the AFL, excluding the new draft picks from the previous year who went to clubs elsewhere.
Furthermore, there are more run-of-the-mill players coming through the AFL ranks than ever before, to allow for the two new team lists.
This all equates to less authentic AFL-standard talent.
There are more recycled players lured by a hefty pay cheque. There are more non-contracted players being hunted from other clubs. There are more completely lopsided matches, week in, week out.
There is now a struggle to keep substantial crowds coming in for Gold Coast or Greater Western Sydney games.
The biggest concern of all remains these clubs’ ability to take uncontracted players from other teams in the competition.
Admittedly, players have always moved clubs for money.
The only difference from the past, in terms of attracting players from other clubs, is that back then players moved for both the money and the opportunity to experience success.
They knew it would make the move worth more than just the dollar value.
Can you imagine if Fremantle were given a great deal of cash back in their humble beginnings, trying to lure Brownlow medallist James Hird from Essendon?
Wouldn’t have happened.
These days, however, the two new clubs on the block have the money and the questionable right to offer the big bucks to uncontracted players from all over the league.
This, despite them likely to be sitting comfortably at the bottom of the ladder for some time to come in two non-Aussie-Rules states.
The re-signing of Tiger Brett Deledio for five years and Magpie Scott Pendlebury for a four-year contract at their respective clubs has put many speculating critics back in their place.
Players already know that a move to either Gold Coast or GWS is not going to be a fast road to success.
Perhaps now they’re realising that the hardships each club is set to face for a long time to come far outweigh the allure of the extra money.
It will be a true testament to the character of the non-contracted players as to who is enticed by cash and who remains a loyal clubman, in this greedy day and age of our game.
The AFL has encouraged and supported these two new teams endlessly.
Now the football world is left to simply ponder why the AFL has become so money driven and in turn oblivious to the struggles that these two teams will face for a substantial amount of time.
Hawthorn, Footscray (now Western Bulldogs), North Melbourne, Melbourne and Richmond were only able to survive via the loyal, passionate diehards of each respective club.
Without that network of support who knows where these clubs would be.
While the AFL can inject all the money, advertising and support into these new clubs, unfortunately clubs supporters’ loyalty and generosity are not buyable assets.
While this has been the inevitable situation for over a year now, it is becoming alarmingly apparent that the rush to get these clubs into the AFL was a botched one, built on a money-driven expansion plan.
If only the AFL had thought about the true assets that build the foundations of a football club.

Yet ratings and crowds are higher than ever.

In 3 years when these new teams are competitive the AFL will reap the benefits of this expansion.

[King-Eliagh]

Dogs that's some tidy research you did. And finding cos's thoughts? Priceless!

Cos? You da man! :D Now speak some more of that truth shiiit in here for a change brother.

[King-Eliagh]

Cos? Get your ass back in here and speak some of dat good stuff!

[King-Eliagh]

I didnt just give you the lions, I gave you GWS, GC and Melb to win two games against teams who are not either GWS, GC, Melb or Bris. Thats four basketcases and four chances for you to win. Comon dont be a chicken. To put things into perspective by round 7 last year the GC had won two of their games on top of having the bye in the first round. I spose there's a difference this year with four basketcases rather than 1 but now you have four chances to get those 2 wins against teams other than the four basketcases.

You sure you cant rethink the wager Xman?

Xman Im talking to you here? Or are you too chicken to respond? brrrkbrrrk brrrrrrrrk

[Xman]

I didnt just give you the lions, I gave you GWS, GC and Melb to win two games against teams who are not either GWS, GC, Melb or Bris. Thats four basketcases and four chances for you to win. Comon dont be a chicken. To put things into perspective by round 7 last year the GC had won two of their games on top of having the bye in the first round. I spose there's a difference this year with four basketcases rather than 1 but now you have four chances to get those 2 wins against teams other than the four basketcases.

You sure you cant rethink the wager Xman?

Xman Im talking to you here? Or are you too chicken to respond? brrrkbrrrk brrrrrrrrk

I told you my offer. Are your eyes painted on?

[King-Eliagh]

I'm asking will you reconsider testicle eyes.

[Xman]

I'm asking will you reconsider testicle eyes.

If they were playing some home games against teams in the 5-14 range I would, but no, because they are playing all their home games against teams outside this group.