BS file claim#20: (AR's was) invented by two New South Welsh

[NSWAFL]

That's NSWAFL, Cos. It's never been NSWFL.

[King-Eliagh]

Sometimes Cos is ok NSWFL. I'm fine witrh Football League. Takes the national BS out of it. Tell your boss nswfl

[cos789]

Central Australia FITH

[King-Eliagh]

cos you are such are rambling git. even if the warlpiri did play marngrook, which they didnt, that would only indicate the game was played in some distinct areas in australia. Not 'across' Australia at all cos you rambling loony.

[Xman]

KE, If you stabbed me in the neck and blood splattered "across" the floor would it need to cover every part of the floor for the word to be used in context?

[King-Eliagh]

Here's some more damning evidence against nsw and tlpg's claim that Marngrook was played across Australia before cook arrived...


The argument that Wills was inspired by Marngrook is based on three assertions. The first is that Aborigines played near his childhood home at the northern end of the Grampians mountain range.

Hibbins's extensive research in the area revealed no signs the game was played by the local indigenous community, although there were definite sightings in Port Fairy, about 150km south of the Wills family's Lexington station, as well as around the Melbourne region.

Could the Port Fairy community have transported their ball game north? Unlikely, said Hibbins. "Some Aborigines were playing a form of foot-and-ball, but they were living in different tribes, speaking different languages and dialects. One tribe would hesitate before going into another tribe's territory."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/af ... 1115858741

The main point in highlighting this article is that extensive research has found Marngrook was not commonly played across even victoria, let alone Australia.

[Xman]

Here's some more damning evidence against nsw and tlpg's claim that Marngrook was played across Australia before cook arrived...


The argument that Wills was inspired by Marngrook is based on three assertions. The first is that Aborigines played near his childhood home at the northern end of the Grampians mountain range.

Hibbins's extensive research in the area revealed no signs the game was played by the local indigenous community, although there were definite sightings in Port Fairy, about 150km south of the Wills family's Lexington station, as well as around the Melbourne region.

Could the Port Fairy community have transported their ball game north? Unlikely, said Hibbins. "Some Aborigines were playing a form of foot-and-ball, but they were living in different tribes, speaking different languages and dialects. One tribe would hesitate before going into another tribe's territory."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/af ... 1115858741

The main point in highlighting this article is that extensive research has found Marngrook was not commonly played across even victoria, let alone Australia.

Across does not have to include every area to be correctly used in context though.

[King-Eliagh]

KE, If I stabbed you in the neck and blood splattered "across" the floor would it need to cover every part of the floor for the word to be used in context?

Are you trying to threat me dikkhead? Beaussie I'd consider this in reference to your rules and guidelines.

If you dont consider this Beaussie then it will be a case of monkey see monkey do. Are you happy for me to go along with the precedent Xwoman has set and perhaps discuss his family in this context?

I'll answer your dumb invalid question once I hear from Beaussie Xman.

[NSWAFL]

Hibbins is wrong. It has been established that Marn Grook was being played in a number of areas in Western Victoria. The Wimmera and the Mallee were mentioned for instance. And I already made the point about Central Australia. A tribe doesn't need to go in numbers into another's territory. It only takes one to see what another tribe is doing and report back. And Aboriginal tribes go back thousands of years!

[Xman]

KE, If I stabbed you in the neck and blood splattered "across" the floor would it need to cover every part of the floor for the word to be used in context?

Are you trying to threat me dikkhead? Beaussie I'd consider this in reference to your rules and guidelines.

If you dont consider this Beaussie then it will be a case of monkey see monkey do. Are you happy for me to go along with the precedent Xwoman has set and perhaps discuss his family in this context?

I'll answer your dumb invalid question once I hear from Beaussie Xman.

it wasn't a threat idiot. it was a scenario which was made a bit more interesting by including you in it. But since youre such a sensitive little girl I'll change it.

[Beaussie]

KE, If I stabbed you in the neck and blood splattered "across" the floor would it need to cover every part of the floor for the word to be used in context?

Are you trying to threat me dikkhead? Beaussie I'd consider this in reference to your rules and guidelines.

If you dont consider this Beaussie then it will be a case of monkey see monkey do. Are you happy for me to go along with the precedent Xwoman has set and perhaps discuss his family in this context?

I'll answer your dumb invalid question once I hear from Beaussie Xman.

Oh get over it.

[cos789]

Hibbins is wrong. It has been established that Marn Grook was being played in a number of areas in Western Victoria. The Wimmera and the Mallee were mentioned for instance. And I already made the point about Central Australia. A tribe doesn't need to go in numbers into another's territory. It only takes one to see what another tribe is doing and report back. And Aboriginal tribes go back thousands of years!

On a serious note. That is a very good point. Aborigines have been in Australia for tens of thousands of years and they travelled vasts tracks of land. Officially they'd deemed "nomadic" which gives the wrong impression. Yes, they had no fixed abode but they travelled in a cyclic route returning to the same places at the same point in the seasons.
Thus it is highly probable that there was interaction (not just warfare) between the tribes.

[King-Eliagh]

KE, If I stabbed you in the neck and blood splattered "across" the floor would it need to cover every part of the floor for the word to be used in context?

No dikkhead. It would have to cover a significant range of the floor to be described as "splattered 'across' the floor" though, wouldnt it.

So Xman tell me, if 'someone' were to pop over into your neck of the woods and decapitate each of your family members, leavng their bodies slumped in the south eastern corner of the kitchen before taking the axe to your legs leaving you bleeding to death amongst your headless kin and there was 6 pools of blood forming in this south eastern corner, would you say the blood was pooled 'across' the room? Or would you say it was pooled in the south eastern corner?

[Xman]

KE, If I stabbed you in the neck and blood splattered "across" the floor would it need to cover every part of the floor for the word to be used in context?

No dikkhead. It would have to cover a significant range of the floor to be described as "splattered 'across' the floor" though, wouldnt it.

So Xman tell me, if 'someone' were to pop over into your neck of the woods and decapitate each of your family members, leavng their bodies slumped in the south eastern corner of the kitchen before taking the axe to your legs leaving you bleeding to death amongst your headless kin and there was 6 pools of blood forming in this south eastern corner, would you say the blood was pooled 'across' the room? Or would you say it was pooled in the south eastern corner?

If my family lived predominantly in one area of the house, with a member or two isolated in other rooms, and each were brutally murdered, leaving blood spills in their particular areas, I would say the blood splatter and murder scene was spread across the house.

[King-Eliagh]

cos and nswvr, you both make a very good point and I agree but unfortunately the point you provide makes for damning evidence against nswvr's claim that Marngrook was played across the county.

I criticise Hibbins on her account of Aboriginal life being restricted to 'tribes'. Aboriginal people commonly spoke several of the local languages and still do in some regions of Australia. Furthermore interaction between different Aboriginal clans was also common. Trade routes and trading, celebrations, warfare and other social relations were common between differing clans. If these interactions spread the game of Marngrook "across" Australia, as cos lettuce and nswvr suggest, then why were the only sightings and records of the game being played confined to a small pocket in the south eastern corner of Australia?

Lets not forget that Purltja is not Marngrook either, as the link says, its similar but different.