BS Claim#2: The RFL alone is bigger than all the AFL....

[Xman]

AFL crowds at local games always congregate around the change rooms. This includes the photographer. So it is easy to miss a crowd of about 100 or so. Amateur status is irrelevant. The game is being played and that's all that matters in this argument.

LOL this one's gonna attrack some comments!

[NSWAFL]

Of course it will, and there's no way to conclusively prove it so it can't be entered into the BS file! I'm going what I've seen myself at Sydney AFL games and what I've heard.

[Xman]

Decision:
Summary:

Reviewer 1:

The Claimant provided a comprehensive summary of factual information indicating the RFL's professionalism on page one. The Challenger in a bumbling and highly unfortunate response provided a list of international AR teams numbering 60 asking for the Claimant to provide 3000 RL teams in response. The 60 teams provided were highly sus, with links leading to pornography, facebook and other bogus sites, which effectively made a mockery of the challenger and his argument. The Claimant went on to provide further more significant evidence and although his presentation was clearer and more comprehensive, and his claim most probably correct, he was unable to make a strong comparitive case. He did not provide evidence of AR being 50X smaller than the RFL.

A difficult case which raises many questions for addressing claims in the BS files.

Conclusion: No result and a harsh public warning dealt to the Challenger re: posting links he has not viewed and the fact that posting BS links is no different to making a BS claim which may be challenged and proven as BS

Reviewer 2:
Summary:

The Claimant provided significant evidence proving conclusively that RL is a small but significant part of the sporting landscape in the UK. However much of his evidence related to areas such as professionalism and finances, that on their own do not quantify size, but indicate it. He also did not present evidence to show the size of AFL outside Australia, making a comparison of 50 times all but impossible. Clearly RL in the UK is much bigger than AFL outside Australia, but by how much is difficult to say. The challenger, and others, presented evidence regarding participant and competition numbers showing the difference in these indicators is likely to be less than 50 times. However, size cannot and should not be defined by numbers of players or competitions alone. There are other factors to consider than make the comparison too difficult.

Conclusion and recommendation: 'Undecided' result.

Final decision: 'Undecided' therefore no points

[ParraEelsNRL]

"We're really keen to build South Africa and the South Pacific in the traditional sense, to get participation numbers up," Sheehan said. "And from that talent emerges.

"Right at the moment, we have 100,000 people playing football around the world (outside Australia) and most of those are in the southern hemisphere.

"We'd like to build that to about 200,000 in five years. If we set it up, the kids will come and play, and we're really quite ambitious about South Africa and the South Pacific. In other parts, like the US, Canada and Ireland, there might be the odd one at 20 or 21 who might switch across, but we'll never grow to be quite large in the northern hemisphere.

"But we really think there's a niche for us in the southern hemisphere to grow into a mass participation sport.

http://asopa.typepad.com/asopa_people/sport/

That'd be what parafeel ? 100,000

parafeel , wakeup , wake up , are you all right ? get off the floor man you look terrible!!

He and you can say there's 100,000 outside australia as much as you like, no one of you have proved it.

[ParraEelsNRL]

Holy smokes batman, the AFL is a dominant force o/s! check out the masses at the final of the european cup!



Yep its 'BIG' o/s alright

Yes, you have a photo of 4 players holding up the Cup.
Is this the presentation ceremony - no.
Is this just after the finish of the game - no.
Is there a shot of the stadium - no

All this prooves is that they're using AR posts.

Looks like the PVC bandits have struck again.

[ParraEelsNRL]

AFL crowds at local games always congregate around the change rooms. This includes the photographer. So it is easy to miss a crowd of about 100 or so. Amateur status is irrelevant. The game is being played and that's all that matters in this argument.

It's not called boggerball for nothing.

[NSWAFL]

YOU call it that. As if your opinion means anything. And the PVC goal posts you are talking about are NEVER as tall as the posts in that pic! They are genuine permanent goal posts.

On the result - Reviewer 1 (clearly that's Dunce) showed considerable bias, dissing the accuracy of Facebook and accusing me of providing MULTIPLE porn links when there was only the one and I quickly revoked it when I realised the site had been hacked, and I'm sorry about that. That sort of bias is unbecoming of a neutral reviewer and should be evidence to sack him.

However, given the more reasonable opinion given by Reviewer 2 (Xman) I think I can accept the final decision. However having said that, Debbie still needs to watch what she says!

[cos789]

WFN Census (2004): 64 senior teams, 1920 adult players, 8000 juniors

http://www.worldfootynews.com/staticpag ... New_Guinea

A rather old census, but just PNG alone sinks your boat parafeel even forgetting that RFL doesn't = BARLA

[NSWAFL]

And there are more than 64 senior teams now!

[ParraEelsNRL]

Where?

In PNG?

Bahahahahaha, RL rules PNG.

[NSWAFL]

171 across the world, Debbie. Plenty in PNG (21 at least at last count), a country that has won the International Cup. Five PNG players are listed as AFL senior players at the moment.

[cos789]

My running tally is 296 clubs,but that number doesn't include quite a few countries still to come .
So it's well over 300 AFCs.
So even if we let parafeel get away with RFL=BRLA , he's gone.

[NSWAFL]

Thanks for the update, Cos!

[ParraEelsNRL]

No official links, just hearsay from AFL journos.

[cos789]

Thanks for the update, Cos!

Almost 400 spot on for the final total.