NRL Players Can't Kick or Catch a Football

[Raiderdave]

Cos a lot of what you say is bleeding obvious to me, having played both sports. Again you make some decent points but they are off kilter. The one about AFL players kicking further is directly related to the weight and shape of the ball when comparing across codes, not the specialty skills of the kicker. I guarantee you, given a small amount of training many rugby league players in the halfback and five eightth positions could kick well beyond 60 metre AFL kicks. And fullbacks are not more likely than halfbacks to be league kickers you silly man, your knowledge of the game is minimal... aaaannd we've already seen a few league players convert to AFL and guess what? They weren't even regular or quality kickers in league! Havent seen any AFL players convert into the halfback position at top level RL for their kicking prowess though have we? All we have here is some dimwit coach at cronulla employing nic davis to essentially teach kicking skills he wouldnt have.

I stand by my point, AFL players excel with the use of the drop punt (the stab kick is simply a slight variation IMO) and variations of it and rarely use other kicks as you have agreed to above cos i.e. with the torps and grubbas. The halfback (generally this position although often the five eighth and hooker also) in league MUST use a wide variety of DIFFERENT kicks to be successful and hold their position at the top level. Sure an AFL player needs to be a great kick, and accurate and many (but by no means all like you suggest cos!) can use both feet effectively. But this doesnt mean they can kick a variety of kicks effectively. I stand solidly by my point, having played and watched both games often I know I'm...spot on

give em a week
they'd be all ova it .......... but they can also , tackle .. pass .. catch under pressure ... create space n time ( imagine these flogball merkins trying to break up a RL defence )
but as you say . why bother learning their style or method of kicking .. its useless to them

& as for lostcos789 & his ridiculous assertion that if they were this good they'd all be playing giggleball
when will he get it through his thick head
kids in NSW & QLD have no interest .. no affection .. no mind for his silly little sport
short of 1 million a year for them all ( the AFL would go broke paying them all ) .. they would not bother with a sport that does not challenge them .. that is soft .. that is " beneath " them
they earn a great living in the NRL .. soon to be even greater ...it is what they grow up dreaming of being involved in
it is the ultimate sport & where they are happy

so soft that k hunt couldn't even complete either of the last two seasons because he was just plain buggered!

You've probably never seen an ARs game live. It might not have the free for all punch ons like thugby but It certainly is not soft!

buggered


yet you wombats forked out ova 2 million for said seasons for him
he said hmmmmm wonder of they'll pay me to sit on my @rse .. I mean are they that desperate .. yep .. seems they are
oh and
flogball is the sofest g@yest sport on the planet.

[Topper]

And my point is proven.

[King-Eliagh]

Cos a lot of what you say is bleeding obvious to me, having played both sports. Again you make some decent points but they are off kilter. The one about AFL players kicking further is directly related to the weight and shape of the ball when comparing across codes, not the specialty skills of the kicker. I guarantee you, given a small amount of training many rugby league players in the halfback and five eightth positions could kick well beyond 60 metre AFL kicks. And fullbacks are not more likely than halfbacks to be league kickers you silly man, your knowledge of the game is minimal... aaaannd we've already seen a few league players convert to AFL and guess what? They weren't even regular or quality kickers in league! Havent seen any AFL players convert into the halfback position at top level RL for their kicking prowess though have we? All we have here is some dimwit coach at cronulla employing nic davis to essentially teach kicking skills he wouldnt have.

I stand by my point, AFL players excel with the use of the drop punt (the stab kick is simply a slight variation IMO) and variations of it and rarely use other kicks as you have agreed to above cos i.e. with the torps and grubbas. The halfback (generally this position although often the five eighth and hooker also) in league MUST use a wide variety of DIFFERENT kicks to be successful and hold their position at the top level. Sure an AFL player needs to be a great kick, and accurate and many (but by no means all like you suggest cos!) can use both feet effectively. But this doesnt mean they can kick a variety of kicks effectively. I stand solidly by my point, having played and watched both games often I know I'm...spot on

give em a week
they'd be all ova it .......... but they can also , tackle .. pass .. catch under pressure ... create space n time ( imagine these flogball merkins trying to break up a RL defence )
but as you say . why bother learning their style or method of kicking .. its useless to them

& as for lostcos789 & his ridiculous assertion that if they were this good they'd all be playing giggleball
when will he get it through his thick head
kids in NSW & QLD have no interest .. no affection .. no mind for his silly little sport
short of 1 million a year for them all ( the AFL would go broke paying them all ) .. they would not bother with a sport that does not challenge them .. that is soft .. that is " beneath " them
they earn a great living in the NRL .. soon to be even greater ...it is what they grow up dreaming of being involved in
it is the ultimate sport & where they are happy

so soft that k hunt couldn't even complete either of the last two seasons because he was just plain buggered!

You've probably never seen an ARs game live. It might not have the free for all punch ons like thugby but It certainly is not soft!

Xman Aussie Rules is not a soft sport but in comparison to League, Aussie Rules is like organising cups of tea in doll house. Trust me, I've played both codes.

[Topper]

And again, this time by a fart.

[Xman]

give em a week
they'd be all ova it .......... but they can also , tackle .. pass .. catch under pressure ... create space n time ( imagine these flogball merkins trying to break up a RL defence )
but as you say . why bother learning their style or method of kicking .. its useless to them

& as for lostcos789 & his ridiculous assertion that if they were this good they'd all be playing giggleball
when will he get it through his thick head
kids in NSW & QLD have no interest .. no affection .. no mind for his silly little sport
short of 1 million a year for them all ( the AFL would go broke paying them all ) .. they would not bother with a sport that does not challenge them .. that is soft .. that is " beneath " them
they earn a great living in the NRL .. soon to be even greater ...it is what they grow up dreaming of being involved in
it is the ultimate sport & where they are happy

so soft that k hunt couldn't even complete either of the last two seasons because he was just plain buggered!

You've probably never seen an ARs game live. It might not have the free for all punch ons like thugby but It certainly is not soft!

Xman Aussie Rules is not a soft sport but in comparison to League, Aussie Rules is like organising cups of tea in doll house. Trust me, I've played both codes.

Ive never played RL, in fact I've never even seen a game except the odd minute or two on TV, so I'll take your word for it. I'm happy to accept RL is a more brutal sport. But there have been suggestions that ARs is soft. Nothing could be further from the truth.

[King-Eliagh]

Finally an AFL supporter posting with honesty and brains rather than simply posting biased trash. =D>

Commendable stuff xman.

I agree Aussie Rules isnt soft. You gotta be alert out there and there's some fairly heavy contact to be had and made in many instances.

[King-Eliagh]

Oh yeah, Hi Topper me boy, how's it all smelling?

[Xman]

Finally an AFL supporter posting with honesty and brains rather than simply posting biased trash. =D>

Commendable stuff xman.

I agree Aussie Rules isnt soft. You gotta be alert out there and there's some fairly heavy contact to be had and made in many instances.

True. The rules of ARF are there to protect the players and ensure any contact is as fair as possible. Of course there are times when players operate outside these regulations but they are certainly dealt with harshly. Yet the very nature of such a fast moving game, with contact possible from any direction, means there are still many big clashes. The game requires great courage and is certainly not soft.

[cos789]

Trust me, I've played both codes.

Simply we don't. Not a breath.

Xman Aussie Rules is not a soft sport but in comparison to League,

Not if you compare apples to apples.
Backs have a different workload to forwards in Rugby.
And like any sport in depends on how involved a player becomes.
Generally rugby is tough grinding 2D sport.
Generally AR is tough over a multi-faceted 3D sport.
Toughness is not just giving and taking a tackles,giving and taking bumps,it's running long distances interspersed with sprints,it's taking collisions but also it's mental toughness to make the call and demand the lead to be honoured.
Having played RU, rl and AR I can safely say that soccer is the most painful football.
Getting continually kicked in the shins is just not worth it.

[Topper]

That's an interesting point of view, cos789.

[King-Eliagh]

hahaha funny final point cos. As to the rest of them I'd like to state I'm discussin physical toughness, as I would say is Xman. RL requires an extremely high level of physical fitness and the workload is massive. Its not possible to accurately compare the sports in this sense but I think they're fairly equal and that you dont take into account the smaller size of the RL field...you are almost always in the action whereas on the half back line I would often get good periods to recuperate on the AFL field, as would all the forwards. Also your 2D 3D analogy is laughable cos lettuce and you need to think that through more as it doesnt make much sense, we're not talking computer games here.

Back to your last point, soccer players do wear shin pads you know. But I must admit my U14s soccer coach who had us play league to warmup stated if I went into a soccer tackle half as hard as i did in a league tackle I'd be a ripping player. Hence my switch to the rugby codes. I gotta say going in hard with the legs/feet was not something I had in me.

As for your first point, I dont give two shiiits what you ponies believe and dont. But your assumption certainly stands half true to the saying, an ass is made of you each and everytime cos lettuce.

[cos789]

RL requires an extremely high level of physical fitness and the workload is massive. Its not possible to accurately compare the sports in this sense.

Ok so you're sensible so far.

I would often get good periods to recuperate on the AFL field, as would all the forwards.

I thought you were comparing apples with apples. Elite against elite.
Bringing your experiences into the debate is rediculous. Of course you'd get periods to re-cuperate that's where they put dud AR players. If you were any good you'd be exhausted. No different to being a winger in rugby, jogging up and down, going through the motions and hardly ever required to do any work. Not very hard - jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.

[King-Eliagh]

So the half back line is where they put the dud players

Do you know anything about the sport you support?

A final point I meant to make earlier was that yes physical toughness obviously the bumps, tackles and courage you need to play both games and league has by far the heavier contact and higher courage required.

[Raiderdave]

RL requires an extremely high level of physical fitness and the workload is massive. Its not possible to accurately compare the sports in this sense.

Ok so you're sensible so far.

I would often get good periods to recuperate on the AFL field, as would all the forwards.

I thought you were comparing apples with apples. Elite against elite.
Bringing your experiences into the debate is rediculous. Of course you'd get periods to re-cuperate that's where they put dud AR players. If you were any good you'd be exhausted. No different to being a winger in rugby, jogging up and down, going through the motions and hardly ever required to do any work. Not very hard - jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.
jog 5 metres - jog 5 metres back.

try 10 metres

[Raiderdave]

Trust me, I've played both codes.

Simply we don't. Not a breath.

Xman Aussie Rules is not a soft sport but in comparison to League,

Not if you compare apples to apples.
Backs have a different workload to forwards in Rugby.
And like any sport in depends on how involved a player becomes.
Generally rugby is tough grinding 2D sport.
Generally AR is tough over a multi-faceted 3D sport.
Toughness is not just giving and taking a tackles,giving and taking bumps,it's running long distances interspersed with sprints,it's taking collisions but also it's mental toughness to make the call and demand the lead to be honoured.
Having played RU, rl and AR I can safely say that soccer is the most painful football.
Getting continually kicked in the shins is just not worth it.