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The SCG is such a dumb in terms of fan facilities for its biggest tenant the Swans. It’s so embarrassing to see women missing so much of the footy standing in long lines just to go to the toilet. The food and beverage offerings in the Brewongle and Churchill stands are an ancient joke too. The O’Reilly stand is even worse. Bring in the bulldozers and give us Sydneysiders an iconic stadium to be truly proud of.



‘The world moves on’: Swans push case for dramatic SCG revamp, expansion
By Vince Rugari
May 3, 2025

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/AFL/the ... 5lvzf.html

Sydney Swans chairman Andrew Pridham has lent his voice to growing calls for a redevelopment of the SCG – including an expansion of up to 60,000 seats – warning that it risks becoming the sixth-best oval stadium in Australia without further investment.

About 40,000 fans are expected to attend the SCG for Sunday’s AFL derby between the struggling Swans and Giants, but many of them will be sitting in what are the oldest non-heritage grandstands at any tier-one stadium in the country.

The O’Reilly, Brewongle and Churchill stands are all close to or more than 40 years old and with their deteriorating facilities and narrow concourses, they suffer from some of the same safety and compliance issues that prompted the controversial rebuilding of neighbouring Allianz Stadium – and similar concerns to the Gabba about the ageing media facilities and camera platforms, which is set to be demolished after the 2032 Brisbane Olympics.

Those three SCG stands are being targeted for demolition as part of a revamp that it is hoped will bring the storied venue up to modern standards. Otherwise, Pridham said, with new stadiums to be built in Brisbane and Hobart, Sydney’s premier oval will slip behind those two cities, as well as Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne, in the national pecking order.

For the Swans, who are on track to break their membership record of more than 75,000, and regularly sell out the 48,000-capacity SCG, extra seats and improved corporate hospitality areas will cater to the continued growth of what is – measured by crowd figures, at least – the city’s biggest football club. Their average crowd last year was a record 38,202. This year, the Swans have completely sold out their corporate facilities.

“It’s a fantastic stadium, an iconic place to watch any sport; the bones of the ground are world-class,” Pridham said.

“That said, the world moves on ... there’s a lot of money being spent upgrading other stadiums around the country, and you’ve got to keep pace with it.

“I don’t know what motivates governments, but one thing I’ve seen is if you look at the impact that Optus has had in Perth, Adelaide Oval’s had in terms of the sort of confidence and the vibe in the cities … having world-class venues is something that people do value. We should absolutely be the event capital of Australia – whether it’s sports or concerts or anything else – and to not have the infrastructure to allow that to happen is crazy.

“I’m a real estate person. You can’t have real estate that is as valuable as the SCG and that whole precinct, and have it underutilised. It’s just crazy.”

Venues NSW is reviewing the condition of the three stands, pulling together previous master plans for the stadium and adapting them to account for changes to the Moore Park precinct following the rebuilding of Allianz Stadium, to create a vision for the new SCG. However, no funding commitments have been made by the NSW government. “Venues NSW will be undertaking a condition assessment of the O’Reilly, Brewongle and Churchill stands. The focus of this assessment will be to ensure the facilities meet the modern needs of fans,” said a spokesperson for Venues NSW.

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The SCG has hosted so many memorable games, including the Swans’ come-from-behind win over the Giants in last year’s finals.CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES

If the O’Reilly, Brewongle and Churchill stands are demolished, it is presumed there will finally be room to be able to facilitate a drop-in wicket at the SCG – a contentious change the Swans have long pushed for, but now has tentative support from Cricket Australia chief executive Todd Greenberg.

Pridham, however, does not buy the argument that it is not possible to do now due to logistical issues.

“I wasn’t born yesterday,” he said. “I don’t accept the argument. In fact, I know it’s not correct that you couldn’t do a drop in wicket. There is sufficient technology today. I mean, we landed on the moon in 1969, so they can put a drop in wicket in the SCG tomorrow.

“That’s a bit of a furphy that argument. The other argument is that they need somewhere to grow the grass ... there’s plenty of grass around the SCG, and it’s really a matter of will from the government to make it happen. I don’t think it should be dependent on redevelopment of the grandstands, albeit I think they’re both important.”

Another issue Pridham is firm on is the prospect of sharing the SCG with the Giants, who have previously flagged interest in playing a home game there during the period in which Engie Stadium is unavailable due to the Easter Show.

“It’s not happening, so it’s not worth discussing,” he said.

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if the expansion does happen i hope they keep the olden day stands, the members and ladies pavilions? as it keeps some character to the venue,
the MCG now days has lost a lot of its charm and is a charmless concrete coliseum, the Gabba and Suncorp stadiums have the distinct colour patterns on the seats that make it unique to Queensland, i cant say what the venues are like due to never been. Adelaide oval stands are rather unique and kept its hill at one end of the venue .

the Perth Stadium does look a bit soulless when in the venue but viewing is amazing due to the steep stands similar to that of Marvel stadium.

to many grounds now days dont have the characteristics of the older day venues
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Personally I’m not a fan of the old Members and Ladies stands. Those two stands limit capacity and expansion opportunities and add to the mishmash feel of all the different ageing stands and facilities. I appreciate however that those stands are protected by heritage orders so no change there is possible.

I would love to have an Optus style stadium, but that ain’t possible with the fairly recent developments of the Trumper, Noble and Bradman stands.

Oh and I’m coming round to the idea that the Giants should play a game at the SCG against a big club in addition to the local derby vs Swans. Would help address the continuing problems with the unavailability of Giants Stadium during the Easter Show and the Giants being away from home for such long periods of time every season.
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Beaussie wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:19 pm
Personally I’m not a fan of the old Members and Ladies stands. Those two stands limit capacity and expansion opportunities and add to the mishmash feel of all the different ageing stands and facilities. I appreciate however that those stands are protected by heritage orders so no change there is possible.

I would love to have an Optus style stadium, but that ain’t possible with the fairly recent developments of the Trumper, Noble and Bradman stands.

Oh and I’m coming round to the idea that the Giants should play a game at the SCG against a big club in addition to the local derby vs Swans. Would help address the continuing problems with the unavailability of Giants Stadium during the Easter Show and the Giants being away from home for such long periods of time every season.
Yep, the ladies and members stands cannot be pulled down. Doesn't leave much else for 'expansion'. And the Ginats signed a stupid contract to play at Homebush in their rush to get out of the real greater western Sydney at Blacktown.

Playing a 'home' game at the SCG would be equally stupid. The clue is in their name beatup. They started out west at Blacky moved east to Homebush and now want a home game further east at the SCG. Next they'll wanna play in Nauru. Actually that's not a bad idea lololololol. At least the local might appreciate them there.
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Terry wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:38 pm
Beaussie wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:19 pm
Personally I’m not a fan of the old Members and Ladies stands. Those two stands limit capacity and expansion opportunities and add to the mishmash feel of all the different ageing stands and facilities. I appreciate however that those stands are protected by heritage orders so no change there is possible.

I would love to have an Optus style stadium, but that ain’t possible with the fairly recent developments of the Trumper, Noble and Bradman stands.

Oh and I’m coming round to the idea that the Giants should play a game at the SCG against a big club in addition to the local derby vs Swans. Would help address the continuing problems with the unavailability of Giants Stadium during the Easter Show and the Giants being away from home for such long periods of time every season.
Yep, the ladies and members stands cannot be pulled down. Doesn't leave much else for 'expansion'. And the Ginats signed a stupid contract to play at Homebush in their rush to get out of the real greater western Sydney at Blacktown.

Playing a 'home' game at the SCG would be equally stupid. The clue is in their name beatup. They started out west at Blacky moved east to Homebush and now want a home game further east at the SCG. Next they'll wanna play in Nauru. Actually that's not a bad idea lololololol. At least the local might appreciate them there.
what is it with you lot in Sydney thinking every club needs a home ground paid for by the tax payer to be up graded every few years for 11 home games plus finals every few years, then we have to hear how wealthy the clubs are! its the ultimate socialist argument!

it took Perth some 70 plus years to get a decent venue with zero help from the federal government. the 2 AFL teams here are some of the wealthiest sporting teams in Aus based on football related revenue not gaming revenue and membership waiting lists despite being shit onfield
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Terry fair go mate. South Sydney play home games at Homebush too. And Blacktown is just not up to AFL standard. Seriously have you ever been there? One grandstand with 1,000 approx capacity and the rest all hill. Terrible for fans in the rain, not to mention in the middle of nowhere with no public transport options.

The SCG option for the Giants during the continually problematic Easter Show period is better than the Giants playing in Canberra, or heaven forbid selling a home game to a Victorian club, to play at the MCG.

The Swans however are not keen at all on sharing the SCG, which I think is kinda silly. Two successful football clubs in Sydney is good for both clubs and the game in general.

Perhaps the AFL will step in and tell the Swans to backdown. Could be problematic though as I think the Swans have a big say contractually with Venues NSW and the SCG.
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The ageing SCG has serious safety issues for fans.

Outdated Facilities Drive the Need for Change

https://surryhillsnews.com.au/ageing-st ... -upgrades/

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The O’Reilly, Brewongle, and Clive Churchill Stands at the Sydney Cricket Ground (SCG), built in the early 1980s, have been identified as outdated and struggling to meet modern safety and amenity standards. This reality was starkly highlighted on 17 January 2025, when a piece of the O’Reilly Stand roof dislodged during a storm, forcing an evacuation.

These stands are older than Sydney Football Stadium, which was demolished and rebuilt in 2018 due to similar issues.

Venues NSW confirmed that a condition assessment of the three stands will begin this year as part of the project. While no immediate plans exist to increase the SCG’s current 48,000-seat capacity, experts suggest that redeveloping the O’Reilly Stand could add space for an additional 7,000 fans.

Recent events have highlighted the inadequacies of the SCG’s facilities. Crowds at sold-out matches, such as the Sydney Swans’ AFL games and the Sydney Test cricket match against India, have exposed congestion in concourses, long queues for food and beverages, and insufficient amenities.

Cricket NSW and the AFL have voiced their support for the redevelopment, citing the need to maintain the SCG’s reputation as a premier sporting destination.

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Beaussie wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:15 pm
Terry fair go mate. South Sydney play home games at Homebush too. And Blacktown is just not up to AFL standard. Seriously have you ever been there? One grandstand with 1,000 approx capacity and the rest all hill. Terrible for fans in the rain, not to mention in the middle of nowhere with no public transport options.

The SCG option for the Giants during the continually problematic Easter Show period is better than the Giants playing in Canberra, or heaven forbid selling a home game to a Victorian club, to play at the MCG.

The Swans however are not keen at all on sharing the SCG, which I think is kinda silly. Two successful football clubs in Sydney is good for both clubs and the game in general.

Perhaps the AFL will step in and tell the Swans to backdown. Could be problematic though as I think the Swans have a big say contractually with Venues NSW and the SCG.
Fair go beatup. Homebush is a hell of a lot closer to Souths geographic area than it is to the golden west at Blacktown. And it was a stupid decision to use it as a home ground in the first place. In any case Souths are currently negotiating to move to Moore park directly adjacent to their area.

GWS has always been a bastard child. They talked up Blacktown and sucked in the local council and then dumped 'em to move to Homebush. But they're banned from playing on it for weeks on end during the middle of the season - great move!

So they play in Canberra. I mean if you could pick an area as far removed geographically and culturally from western Sydney as you could that'd be Canberra. Plain stupidity and another slap in the face for their prospective 'fans' out west.

And now you want 'em to play at the SCG. Fair dinkum beatup!!!! The hint is in their name pal - Greater Western Sydney. That ain't Homebush and it sure as hell ain't Canberra or the SCG.

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SCG definitely needs a major upgrade.
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What would you suggest for the problems the Easter Show presents for the Giants Terry? NSW and Sydney AFL primarily use Blacktown these days and it’s clearly not AFL standard for anything other than pre season games.

Tom Wills Oval at Olympic Park, once completed may assist the Giants with a game against a low away drawing team such as the Suns. At least it’s in the same precinct as the Showgrounds.

All things considered, one game for the Giants at the SCG is not such a big deal I think. Swans are vehemently opposed to sharing the ground though and that is a major problem.

The SCG in any case is in serious need for redevelopment and expansion.
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Fred wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 9:50 am
SCG definitely needs a major upgrade.
Considering the millions of dollars spent on NRL suburban grounds and the total rebuild of Allianz Stadium, it seems only fair that the biggest sporting club in NSW/Sydney in terms of crowds, and Cricket get an expanded/redeveloped SCG. I mean comon, Brisbane will soon have a much bigger capacity and brand new stadium for AFL and Cricket.
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Beaussie wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 9:58 am
What would you suggest for the problems the Easter Show presents for the Giants Terry? NSW and Sydney AFL primarily use Blacktown these days and it’s clearly not AFL standard for anything other than pre season games.

Tom Wills Oval at Olympic Park, once completed may assist the Giants with a game against a low away drawing team such as the Suns. At least it’s in the same precinct as the Showgrounds.

All things considered, one game for the Giants at the SCG is not such a big deal I think. Swans are vehemently opposed to sharing the ground though and that is a major problem.

The SCG in any case is in serious need for redevelopment and expansion.

I don't know nor do I care as I don't follow the mess. It's a problem they created themselves. They are clearly a team for greater western Sydney in name only. Big problem.

Re SCG: I only go there for cricket and its fine. A refurb is problematic due to heritage issues and I can't see the newest stands being demolished for a rebuild. Maybe a small refurb could be done.

I know fumble fans would want a total redevelopment but in the immortal words of M.Jagger, ".....you can't always get what you want.....".

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Terry wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 10:37 am
Re SCG: I only go there for cricket and its fine. A refurb is problematic due to heritage issues and I can't see the newest stands being demolished for a rebuild. Maybe a small refurb could be done.

I know fumble fans would want a total redevelopment but in the immortal words of M.Jagger, ".....you can't always get what you want.....".
The OReilly, Brewongle and Churchill stands are older than the former Sydney Football Stadium that was totally bulldozed and rebuilt for so called safety reasons.

A rebuild and expansion to replace the ageing SCG grandstands is a massive task that will need to be staged, starting I would say, with the dangerous collapsing O’Reilly stand.

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In time i could definitely see the SCG being upgraded Section by Section like they have done in the pass.

The O’Reilly, Brewongle and Churchill stands will all go..

SCG Capacity sitting at 48k
with the upgrade of these 3 stands would easily hit 60k

(i feel if the SCG gets upgraded.) the shitshow at Accor should also
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 6:16 pm
In time i could definitely see the SCG being upgraded Section by Section like they have done in the pass.

The O’Reilly, Brewongle and Churchill stands will all go..

SCG Capacity sitting at 48k
with the upgrade of these 3 stands would easily hit 60k

(i feel if the SCG gets upgraded.) the shitshow at Accor should also
Accor stadium (olympic stadium?) thats seems a bit of a mine field, it seems a shit venue all over but when ever talk of it being up graded seems to stir up issues. is there any reason as to why the Sydney Football stadium next to the SCG was fully rebuilt over the olympic stadium?
the SCG seems to get some money spent on it here and there constantly
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