Rank the Codes in NSW

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Re: Rank the Codes in NSW

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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:51 am
truthbomber wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:46 am
yea

this morgan poll has never held any weight with me , its just people answering questions with no investment

The Storm are not the most followed team in Vicderpia
The Swines would barely be as popular as Manly ( the states smallest NRL club) in NSW

this is the reality
I would prob put Manly fan base ahead of Cronulla.
itd be close

but yeah you're probably right
Manly have won 8 premierships to the sharks 1

that will get you a bigger fan base
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truthbomber wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:32 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:51 am
truthbomber wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:46 am
yea

this morgan poll has never held any weight with me , its just people answering questions with no investment

The Storm are not the most followed team in Vicderpia
The Swines would barely be as popular as Manly ( the states smallest NRL club) in NSW

this is the reality
I would prob put Manly fan base ahead of Cronulla.
itd be close

but yeah you're probably right
Manly have won 8 premierships to the sharks 1

that will get you a bigger fan base
True Point, and also a 20 year head start.
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Swans supporter base is pretty much exclusively a small white demo in the affluent eastern suburbs.
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Pippen1994 wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:59 pm
Swans supporter base is pretty much exclusively a small white demo in the affluent eastern suburbs.
pretty much right,

with the demise of the North Sydney bears.
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:11 pm
Pippen1994 wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:59 pm
Swans supporter base is pretty much exclusively a small white demo in the affluent eastern suburbs.
pretty much right,

with the demise of the North Sydney bears.
Not sure “small” is the right word.
There are lies, damn lies and then there are ratings.
Rugby league, Australias most popular game in some of North Eastern Australia.
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Quolls2019 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:45 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:11 pm
Pippen1994 wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:59 pm
Swans supporter base is pretty much exclusively a small white demo in the affluent eastern suburbs.
pretty much right,

with the demise of the North Sydney bears.
Not sure “small” is the right word.
the size of a fan base of

MANLY
CRONULLA
ROOSTERS

Pick one
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:41 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:45 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:11 pm


pretty much right,

with the demise of the North Sydney bears.
Not sure “small” is the right word.
the size of a fan base of

MANLY
CRONULLA
ROOSTERS

Pick one
Fan base, supporters and those fans and supporters who actually are members and/or go to a game, for the latter criteria Swans are far more supported.
There are lies, damn lies and then there are ratings.
Rugby league, Australias most popular game in some of North Eastern Australia.
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The Swans got one bloke at their press conference after a big win lolololol!!! And here's a quote from an article about it: "
".....recent scenes have come as a reminder that while the AFL might be a national competition, it still exists in a country split in two.

Sydney and the AFL were left to bemoan the fact that just a single journalist showed up for coach John Longmire’s post-match press conference in round 17 after their impressive win over the Western Bulldogs.
A photo of Vince Rugari, a sports reporter with The Sydney Morning Herald, surrounded by a sea of empty chairs ignited social media interest after the presser, broadcast around the country by Channel 7, became a one-on-one interview.

Rugari tweeted he found it staggering to be in that situation as two teams battled for a finals spot in ostensibly the country’s biggest sporting league.

Just months after the sugar hit of the incredible scenes sparked by Lance Franklin’s 1000th VFL/AFL goal, it was an embarrassing reality check for the sport at a time the State of Origin rugby league crescendo and the Wallabies v England rugby series were dominating coverage in the Sydney media."

It seems the fumbling game ain't doin' as well in good 'ol Sydney town as the spruikers and propagandists make out!!!! Who woulda known lolololololololol!!!!!!

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Terry wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:36 pm
The Swans got one bloke at their press conference after a big win lolololol!!! And here's a quote from an article about it: "
".....recent scenes have come as a reminder that while the AFL might be a national competition, it still exists in a country split in two.

Sydney and the AFL were left to bemoan the fact that just a single journalist showed up for coach John Longmire’s post-match press conference in round 17 after their impressive win over the Western Bulldogs.
A photo of Vince Rugari, a sports reporter with The Sydney Morning Herald, surrounded by a sea of empty chairs ignited social media interest after the presser, broadcast around the country by Channel 7, became a one-on-one interview.

Rugari tweeted he found it staggering to be in that situation as two teams battled for a finals spot in ostensibly the country’s biggest sporting league.

Just months after the sugar hit of the incredible scenes sparked by Lance Franklin’s 1000th VFL/AFL goal, it was an embarrassing reality check for the sport at a time the State of Origin rugby league crescendo and the Wallabies v England rugby series were dominating coverage in the Sydney media."

It seems the fumbling game ain't doin' as well in good 'ol Sydney town as the spruikers and propagandists make out!!!! Who woulda known lolololololololol!!!!!!

https://thewest.com.au/sport/braden-qua ... -for-cover



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at a low ebb fumblers

finally some reality from a fumbler jurno ,
After 40 years the vicderpian game STILL.. ain't doin it in our biggest city. :cool:
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The Barassi Line is moving further northward in NSW. Red dots in Brisbane, Gold Coast, Sydney and Canberra are encouraging too.

The Barassi Line: a globally unique divider splitting Australia’s footy fans
Published: July 15, 2022

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Australian rules is successfully creeping the Barassi Line northward, with the border-straddling region of Murray in NSW aligned with Australian rules.

Significantly, this mapping work suggests Australian rules is also advancing in the adjacent Riverina region.


These regions, while small in population, are of high strategic importance to the football codes because such regional areas produce a disproportionate amount of elite athletes.

Wagga Wagga in the NSW Riverina is known as the “City of Good Sports”. It not only produces a very high number of elite athletes per capita (“the Wagga effect”), but does so across an amazing diversity of sports.

Luminaries include Mark Taylor, Michael Slater, Alex Blackwell, Wayne Carey, Paul Kelly, Peter Sterling, Nathan Sharpe, as well as the Mortimer and Daniher families.

The Barassi Line is hence not just of academic interest, but of vital importance for our football codes in terms of maintaining vibrant junior participation bases. This helps secure the nation’s best future athletes.

https://theconversation.com/the-barassi ... ans-185132

How AFL is poking its tongue out at rugby league heartland
By Roy Masters
September 16, 2022

The AFL is sticking out its tongue at the NRL. Literally. A map of Aussie Rules clubs across the nation reveals a tongue-shaped projection encroaching deep into NSW.

The “Barassi Line” – a divider separating the AFL states of Victoria and the south and west of Australia from the rugby codes in NSW and Queensland – has moved significantly north.

Historian Ian Turner coined the term “Barassi Line” in a 1978 lecture when he described a sporting cultural divide running from Eden in NSW, through Canberra and up to Arnhem Land.

The line now takes in the Riverina and NSW’s Murray region, where the 70:30 differential once favouring rugby league over Aussie Rules in towns such Temora has been reversed over three generations.

The Sydney Swans will play a preliminary final at the SCG on Saturday with a band of exciting NSW-bred players, while the Melbourne Storm were bundled out of the NRL finals last week, having produced only three first-graders from Victoria in a quarter-century.

Admittedly, some of the Aussie Rules advance into the northern states is illusory. The AFL erects goal posts on local government owned grounds and then pays the local council rental, yet few games are played. However, the existence of grassroots clubs is real.

There are 1504 Aussie Rules community clubs, compared to 861 rugby league clubs nationally, according to researcher Brett Tweedie, who mapped this via a Wikidata fellowship.

Dr Hunter Fujak of Deakin University and the author of Code Wars, commenting on the data in a recent column in The Conversation, wrote, “where Aussie rules was dominant, it was clearly dominant, with league making up just 15 per cent of the two-code-preferred at most in Aussie rules states […] League on the other hand, even when the dominant code, still had a much higher percentage of Aussie rules clubs.

“Australian rules is successfully creeping the Barassi Line northward, with the border-straddling region of Murray in NSW aligned with Australian rules. Significantly, this mapping work suggests Australian rules is also advancing in the adjacent Riverina region.”

Tasmania does not have a single rugby league club.

Fujak points out that in the past decade, the AFL has distributed $220 million in additional funding to its four northern expansion clubs (the Sydney Swans, GWS Giants, Brisbane Lions and Gold Coast Suns). Both NSW AFL clubs have successful academies, capturing athletic talent from the state.

Meanwhile, the ARL Commission has been debating for over a year how to spend development monies, while the base of the male-playing pyramid narrows. The total number of rugby league playing participants is bolstered only by increasing numbers of female players.

It is expected the ARLC will announce soon that it will control the allocation of development money centrally, with some going to the NRL clubs, with the remainder to the state bodies.

It won’t be a one size fits all model, with, say, the Storm expected to promote participation in Victoria, while the QRL would run development in Queensland.

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The Swans have almost 300 girls in their academy program - and they now have an AFLW team to aspire to.

However, NRL clubs confuse participation with pathways.

Governments and national sponsors are interested in the numbers at the base of the playing pyramid, while NRL clubs are focussed on pathways to the top grade for talented youth.

If you challenge a NSW-based NRL club chair on lack of funding for junior development in a designated region of the state, they will point to money spent on junior representative teams, ignoring how little is invested in the Under 8s.

Another potential drain on grassroots funding could come from a proposed national reserve grade competition. The considerable expense of paying another 300 full-time players would inevitably be at the expense of investment in the base of the playing pyramid.

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Sean Buchanan adjusts the headgear on his son Beau, who plays for the Glenmore Park Brumbies in the Penrith Junior Rugby League.CREDIT:WOLTER PEETERS

The AFL has signed a new broadcast deal which is expected to yield a minimum of $100m a year more than the NRL’s media rights contract. The AFL has dedicated 10 per cent of their $4.5 billion deal to the grassroots, including investment in the “development states”.

If football and beer are staples of the sports-loving public, NSW has already lost the beer war. Sydney-based brewer Tooheys has lost market share in the state to Melbourne’s Carlton and United Breweries.

So, as the AFL sticks out its tongue at the NRL via its community club invasion into NSW, Sydney beer drinkers are already quenching their thirsts with the Victorian product.

As the Barassi Line moves north and the ARLC is yet to announce its delivery model for grassroots funding, chairman Peter V’landys must, like a good beer, bring everything to a head.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/how-af ... 5bgmp.html
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