Fight Club - Football TV Ratings (AFL vs NRL)

[NlolRL]

Yes they did, because the games became meaningless as they weren't consistently competitive. Players lost interest. Clubs lost interest. Fans lost interest. Had they been competitive and tv ratings equalled GF's like the RL version there is not a chance in the hell the clubs would have got in the way.

Your wrong and we'll never know anyway because even leagues state of origin ratings were tiny compared to today in the early 90s - and werent shown outside NSW/QLD live at all as far as Im aware.

But end of the day it was the clubs and later the AFLPA. Clubs didnt want to release players, so less and less of the best were available for Origin as the clubs were focussed on the flag. Fans lost interest because the Clubs did. Throw in the the general feeling that Adelaide and West Coast in particular effectively represented their states - and in fairness in the late 80s and 90s they did focus on SA/WA talent - as well as the fact that one off origin matches just didnt have any appeal to anyone. Low attendances followed - and attendance has always been a key driver of the leagues decision making process, tv was acceptable if not spectacular, low crowds werent.

Yep. All in all the lack of competitiveness killed it. In this case we're debating what came first........the chicken or the egg! You're saying the clubs killed the competitiveness by withdrawing players. I'm saying the lack of competitiveness and general interest is why the clubs withdrew players.

Once again its two great minds having a minor disagreement!!!

The clubs didn't lack interest, they valued their own success over SOO. After all, it was one game in a season. It did not involve a years worth of preparation or salary

[Fred]

Your wrong and we'll never know anyway because even leagues state of origin ratings were tiny compared to today in the early 90s - and werent shown outside NSW/QLD live at all as far as Im aware.

But end of the day it was the clubs and later the AFLPA. Clubs didnt want to release players, so less and less of the best were available for Origin as the clubs were focussed on the flag. Fans lost interest because the Clubs did. Throw in the the general feeling that Adelaide and West Coast in particular effectively represented their states - and in fairness in the late 80s and 90s they did focus on SA/WA talent - as well as the fact that one off origin matches just didnt have any appeal to anyone. Low attendances followed - and attendance has always been a key driver of the leagues decision making process, tv was acceptable if not spectacular, low crowds werent.

Yep. All in all the lack of competitiveness killed it. In this case we're debating what came first........the chicken or the egg! You're saying the clubs killed the competitiveness by withdrawing players. I'm saying the lack of competitiveness and general interest is why the clubs withdrew players.

Once again its two great minds having a minor disagreement!!!

The clubs didn't lack interest, they valued their own success over SOO. After all, it was one game in a season. It did not involve a years worth of preparation or salary

That’s was my perception too… if it came to what was best for the club then that won out.

[pussycat Mark 11]

LIVE: NRL: COWBOYS V ROOSTERS FOX LEAGUE 241,000
NRL: STORM V KNIGHTS FOX LEAGUE 207,000
LIVE: AFL MELBOURNE V HAWTHORN FOX FOOTY 186,000
LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY 180,000
LIVE: NRL: RAIDERS V SHARKS FOX LEAGUE 177,000
LIVE: AFL ST KILDA V PORT ADELAIDE FOX FOOTY 168,000

Very limited coverage of Sharks game due to cloud cover in my area.

[Terry]

Yep. All in all the lack of competitiveness killed it. In this case we're debating what came first........the chicken or the egg! You're saying the clubs killed the competitiveness by withdrawing players. I'm saying the lack of competitiveness and general interest is why the clubs withdrew players.

Once again its two great minds having a minor disagreement!!!

And in this disagreement you are wrong.

Haha!!! Once again we'll have to agree to disagree!

[Pippen1994]

225k watching wallabies in Sydney last night compared to 18k for AFL.

[NlolRL]

225k watching wallabies in Sydney last night compared to 18k for AFL.

Australia's RU team vs 2 Melbourne AFL teams. Great comparison there Pip head

[NlolRL]

LIVE: NRL: COWBOYS V ROOSTERS FOX LEAGUE 241,000
NRL: STORM V KNIGHTS FOX LEAGUE 207,000
LIVE: AFL MELBOURNE V HAWTHORN FOX FOOTY 186,000
LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY 180,000
LIVE: NRL: RAIDERS V SHARKS FOX LEAGUE 177,000
LIVE: AFL ST KILDA V PORT ADELAIDE FOX FOOTY 168,000

Very limited coverage of Sharks game due to cloud cover in my area.

and more evidence isolated games rate better than concurrent games. Well over 700k for one Saturday night game involving Melbourne clubs.

[Terry]

LIVE: NRL: COWBOYS V ROOSTERS FOX LEAGUE 241,000
NRL: STORM V KNIGHTS FOX LEAGUE 207,000
LIVE: AFL MELBOURNE V HAWTHORN FOX FOOTY 186,000
LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY 180,000
LIVE: NRL: RAIDERS V SHARKS FOX LEAGUE 177,000
LIVE: AFL ST KILDA V PORT ADELAIDE FOX FOOTY 168,000

and the rest of the ratings?

Wallabies v France Game 3
691,000 (Metro 496,000 Regional 195,000)

Seven Saturday night
#AFLDeesHawks 578,000 (Metro 427,000 Regional 151,000)

Actually, not bad numbers for the Wallabies. When Stan is counted it'll be around 800k or a few more. Still behind most RL FTA games in total but goes to show they will get support if the Wallabies are winning.

The test will be when they come up against the All Blacks, Springboks and the best European teams......not 2nd or 3rd raters like the frogs sent out.

[Pippen1994]

225k watching wallabies in Sydney last night compared to 18k for AFL.

Australia's RU team vs 2 Melbourne AFL teams. Great comparison there Pip head

Right - two Sydney teams do what 32k?!
Just a reality check

[NlolRL]

225k watching wallabies in Sydney last night compared to 18k for AFL.

Australia's RU team vs 2 Melbourne AFL teams. Great comparison there Pip head

Right - two Sydney teams do what 32k?!
Just a reality check

LOL

you are still comparing a home and away game to the national RU team? How far has RU fallen?

[Pippen1994]

Australia's RU team vs 2 Melbourne AFL teams. Great comparison there Pip head

Right - two Sydney teams do what 32k?!
Just a reality check

LOL

you are still comparing a home and away game to the national RU team? How far has RU fallen?

Highest level of rugby are wallabies who play numerous matches throughout year.
Highest level of AFL is AFL.
One rates in Sydney the other doesn't - don't blame me

[Terry]

Right - two Sydney teams do what 32k?!
Just a reality check

LOL

you are still comparing a home and away game to the national RU team? How far has RU fallen?

Highest level of rugby are wallabies who play numerous matches throughout year.
Highest level of AFL is AFL.
One rates in Sydney the other doesn't - don't blame me

Good point. The AFL folk here are too thick to realise RL and RU have multiple tiers of their sport. Unlike their mess which has only the domestic game. They will discount an international game because their game has nothing to compare it with. It's one of those excuses they use when the other excuses aren't working!!!!

[NlolRL]

Right - two Sydney teams do what 32k?!
Just a reality check

LOL

you are still comparing a home and away game to the national RU team? How far has RU fallen?

Highest level of rugby are wallabies who play numerous matches throughout year.
Highest level of AFL is AFL.
One rates in Sydney the other doesn't - don't blame me

The highest level of the AFL is AFL finals. In Sydney the ratings were 413k for the AFL GF last year despite 2 Melbourne values playing.

On your bike pal

[Pippen1994]

LOL

you are still comparing a home and away game to the national RU team? How far has RU fallen?

Highest level of rugby are wallabies who play numerous matches throughout year.
Highest level of AFL is AFL.
One rates in Sydney the other doesn't - don't blame me

The highest level of the AFL is AFL finals. In Sydney the ratings were 413k for the AFL GF last year despite 2 Melbourne values playing.

On your bike pal

Wallabies played 14 games in 2019. You guys once replayed a grand final but c'mon...

[Pippen1994]

Good point. The AFL folk here are too thick to realise RL and RU have multiple tiers of their sport. Unlike their mess which has only the domestic game. They will discount an international game because their game has nothing to compare it with. It's one of those excuses they use when the other excuses aren't working!!!!

They'll discount it because grand finals, national teams and origin are theatre events - people watching out of patriotic duty or curiousity, and then the next day they go about their business like nothing happened. As such true popularity not reflected in regular season - its why the socceroos will rate 2 million for a world cup game and the next weekthe aleague will rate 11,000. Its why Origin rates 2.7m, but come the weekend, will rate 700l. Its why the Wallabies will rate 800k, but Super teams rate less than 100k. You fucking know this.

How does international series vs Ireland go?! Must be ratings bonanza