The_Wookie wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:19 pm
NRL&NFLweLaughATAFL2 wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:57 pm
Until I see AFL on prime time tv stations all the time in Sydney and on the top rating radio stations.
I will remain far from convinced that AFL is number 2.
Swans AFL ratings are regularly higher than the national metro ratings for soccer and not far off the national metro ratings for Rugby, let alone just Sydney.
AFL has less grounds and players than Rugby Union in NSW too. So it is even questionable to say the AFL is ahead on Rugby Union when everything is added up.
Do they reallty though. Given AFL and cricket generally share grounds and all.
AFL really should be at 4.
On what basis?
Plus why is the NSW government spending all the sporting ground upgrade money on rectangular grounds instead of the oval grounds?
The SCG just had a $186m facelift that was finished in 2014.
The Sydney Showground had a $65m upgrade in 2012.
The AFL only uses two major stadiums in NSW.
They are spending the money on grounds that are used by Soccer & Rugby codes.
Mostly because they are being neglected, and the NSW Government needs to catch up or stay ahead of Victoria to attract events.
Not hearing much money being spent on any AFL Cricket grounds.
They were done like 5-10 years ago.
If AFL has this so called "huge following" in NSW. Where is the investment?
Already done for now.
Surely a government would want to put lots of money into a sports amenities, that is said to be so popular?
They already did.
Meanwhile Parramatta has just been rebuilt. Sydney football stadium is being rebuilt.
Penrith, Kogarah, Liverpool and Brookvale are all earmarked for new stadiums or upgrades.
Cronulla will be upgraded by the club due to the growing population in the Shire.
Good for them some of their facilities are in bad need of upgrades if the NRL is going to continue to play out of them.
You had some valid points Wookie. But there are still many reasons still as to why AFL should be at number 4 or equal 3rd in NSW.
Soccer has 126 clubs in NSW. I know for a fact AFL would be lucky to have half that.
Soccer has more than 200,000 registered players in NSW. More than any other state in Australia. AFL is light years behind with player numbers in NSW.
You also have less professional clubs than soccer. Soccer has 5 first grade sides to AFLs 2.
So how can AFL be ahead of soccer with figures like this?
Your behind in professional clubs!
Your behind in player numbers!
Your behind in number of grounds!
Your behind in local clubs!
Your behind in semi professional clubs too. (NSW Premier League)
Your behind in school participation to soccer also!
Yep AFL is ahead lol
Mate there is no way AFL is ahead of soccer. You just can't claim it with stats like these.
I would still question if AFL is in front of Union too, it would be close I'll give you that. But nearly every private school in Sydney has their own Rugby Union team which definitely would not be the case with AFL. And I wouldn't say it would be close with who has more clubs and grounds.
AFL just big note them selves so much about their popularity in NSW. But there are so many facts that come into play that make it look untrue. You can't say your totally in front of a code when you have less players, less clubs, less grounds etc..
Then AFL media always say AFL gets lots of viewers in NSW.
But at the end of the day the big top rating media players are not showing AFL on their major channels.
2GB is top rating for radio in Sydney. They don't broadcast AFL they broadcast NRL..
AFL is broadcast on 2UE which is at the bottom of the radio ratings in Sydney.
AFL is still shown on 7mate 98% of the time in Sydney. Another station that is at the bottom of the ratings.
AFL is not flying high in NSW by any means.