So what's ya point pal???? Have ya got one????
Mine is: the stadium will be built on time and very close to budget. Remembering the Parra stadium came in under budget.
Got a point to ya post pal???
So what's ya point pal???? Have ya got one????
I promised to put a sock in it but #StadiumSplurge I told yers so!
Peter FitzSimons
August 4, 2019
HashtagStadiumSplurge? Don’t get me started. I did promise to put a sock in it, given that the NSW government did indeed win the election despite the sheer absurdity of its stadium policy. Might I, however, be permitted to raise at least one wry eyebrow at the news that Lendlease, the presumed contractor to rebuild it, went mad and the government had to shoot it?
Why, you ask, did we all presume Lendlease were the contractors? Because, right when the issue was white-hot, in December 2018, the then sports minister Stuart Ayers made it clear: “There’s one contract that’s been awarded to Lendlease . . . I can’t separate this contract into two stages to reflect the planning process. We have two stages of construction. One contract.”
All fairly simple and transparent. ’Cept it wasn’t. Now the position is that the “one contract” had a dismissal clause if the government wasn’t satisfied with Lendlease which, now the demolition part is completed, it has activated.
What remains of the stadium at Moore Park.CREDIT:BROOK MITCHELL
This leaves the government where? I would say on the blower to Sh--creek Paddlemakers ordering another consignment. For, despite new Sports Minister John Sidoti insisting that “the government will deliver Sydney Football Stadium on time and on budget”, that simply doesn’t stack up.
Time? There isn't any. From a hole in the ground now, the government promised the stadium would be read by the beginning of the NRL season of 2022, now just over two-and-a-half years away. And not only does it not have a contractor locked down, it still lacks planning approval for the new stadium from the Department of Planning which is, I am told, likely months away.
On budget? Please. To receive the approval above, the minister has to be satisfied that the new stadium meets the criteria of “Design Excellence” and be an absolutely first-rate job. So the new contractor, from a standing start, must get up to speed on the whole project, find a profit in the $729 million budget – less demolition costs – that Lendlease could not, and put in a hard bid to win the contract, even before it knows what conditions for construction the Department of Planning will impose . . . and get the whole thing built by 2022, at least before the NRL Grand Final in October? I call bulls--t. As I’ve ranted a little unpleasantly for some time, even on the $729 million pricetag, the numbers never remotely stacked up as justification to knock down a modern stadium. Not even the government could make the case that it would get more than 95 cents back for every dollar put in. On a cost and time blow-out, the numbers will be even more ludicrous.
And so I’ll stop now – at least for as long as I can restrain myself. Just wanted to say, I told yers so!
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/i-p ... 52dfb.html
The NSW Government and the NRL?
They have had international companies building loads of large scale infrastructure projects here. The Light Rail for example was done by a mob from Spain.SportCapital wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:51 amThousands hey.......NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:27 amThere are thousands of construction companies able to do it both locally and internationally. There are large construction companies building major projects all over Australia.SportCapital wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:58 am
Until further notice RL has lost SFS completely to a pile of dust.![]()
How many builders do you think there is with the capacity to build a stadium within the increasingly tight deadline?
Other than lend lease I can think of only 2.
Do you actually think all those cranes for major projects in Sydney and Melbourne are Lendlease?![]()
I bet your an office worker thinking that.
Anyways at the end of the day Rugby Union, Soccer and Rugby League will have the best stadium venues in Sydney.![]()
Lend lease, Multiplex and Balderstone.
They're my three suitors.
Name 3 others with large stadium experience?
Not forgetting "on time and on budget".
Peter FitzSimons, a clown at the circus has more credibility. He has always been pro AFL over NRL and even Union these days. Is that who your getting your information off??Beaussie wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:19 amWhat a clusterfuck this stadium policy is turning out to be. I guess the NSW government don’t care... it’s only NSW taxpayers $$$ to waste.
I promised to put a sock in it but #StadiumSplurge I told yers so!
Peter FitzSimons
August 4, 2019
HashtagStadiumSplurge? Don’t get me started. I did promise to put a sock in it, given that the NSW government did indeed win the election despite the sheer absurdity of its stadium policy. Might I, however, be permitted to raise at least one wry eyebrow at the news that Lendlease, the presumed contractor to rebuild it, went mad and the government had to shoot it?
Why, you ask, did we all presume Lendlease were the contractors? Because, right when the issue was white-hot, in December 2018, the then sports minister Stuart Ayers made it clear: “There’s one contract that’s been awarded to Lendlease . . . I can’t separate this contract into two stages to reflect the planning process. We have two stages of construction. One contract.”
All fairly simple and transparent. ’Cept it wasn’t. Now the position is that the “one contract” had a dismissal clause if the government wasn’t satisfied with Lendlease which, now the demolition part is completed, it has activated.
What remains of the stadium at Moore Park.CREDIT:BROOK MITCHELL
This leaves the government where? I would say on the blower to Sh--creek Paddlemakers ordering another consignment. For, despite new Sports Minister John Sidoti insisting that “the government will deliver Sydney Football Stadium on time and on budget”, that simply doesn’t stack up.
Time? There isn't any. From a hole in the ground now, the government promised the stadium would be read by the beginning of the NRL season of 2022, now just over two-and-a-half years away. And not only does it not have a contractor locked down, it still lacks planning approval for the new stadium from the Department of Planning which is, I am told, likely months away.
On budget? Please. To receive the approval above, the minister has to be satisfied that the new stadium meets the criteria of “Design Excellence” and be an absolutely first-rate job. So the new contractor, from a standing start, must get up to speed on the whole project, find a profit in the $729 million budget – less demolition costs – that Lendlease could not, and put in a hard bid to win the contract, even before it knows what conditions for construction the Department of Planning will impose . . . and get the whole thing built by 2022, at least before the NRL Grand Final in October? I call bulls--t. As I’ve ranted a little unpleasantly for some time, even on the $729 million pricetag, the numbers never remotely stacked up as justification to knock down a modern stadium. Not even the government could make the case that it would get more than 95 cents back for every dollar put in. On a cost and time blow-out, the numbers will be even more ludicrous.
And so I’ll stop now – at least for as long as I can restrain myself. Just wanted to say, I told yers so!
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/i-p ... 52dfb.html
Don’t see those companies lining up or maybe be busy locked in to other projects as well!NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:37 pmThey have had international companies building loads of large scale infrastructure projects here. The Light Rail for example was done by a mob from Spain.SportCapital wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:51 amThousands hey.......NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:27 am
There are thousands of construction companies able to do it both locally and internationally. There are large construction companies building major projects all over Australia.
Do you actually think all those cranes for major projects in Sydney and Melbourne are Lendlease?![]()
I bet your an office worker thinking that.
Anyways at the end of the day Rugby Union, Soccer and Rugby League will have the best stadium venues in Sydney.![]()
Lend lease, Multiplex and Balderstone.
They're my three suitors.
Name 3 others with large stadium experience?
Not forgetting "on time and on budget".
I know these would all be capable of building the stadium
Mirvac
Watpac
John Holland
BGC
ADCO
Fulton Hogan
CPB Contractors
Then you have loads of international companies that could do it. Do seriously think there are only 3 construction companies in Australia that can build a stadium??![]()
Sour grapes from the AFL fanboys. You all tried to stop the stadium from being knocked down. IT GOT DEMOLISHED![]()
You all tried to stop ANZ from being reconfigured to a rectangular stadium.
IT'S BEING RECONFIGURED![]()
You all complained about the Parramatta stadium rebuild. IT GOT REBUILT![]()
Now your all saying they won't find someone to build a new Sydney Football Stadium lol..
GUESS WHAT GUYS, IT WILL BE REBUILT AND WILL BE BETTER THAN EVERY AFL STADIUM IN SYDNEY![]()
![]()
Seriously what a bunch of pelicans you AFL lot areClutching at straws so desperate to stop Rugby, Soccer and Union from having all the best venues. But it's happening
Go back to Melbourne if you dont like it.![]()
I thought the complaints were coming from nsw (Sydney) people? Why would people from other states care? I couldn’t care less. Just seems the nrl have a knack of everything they touch turns sour in one way or another... it’s like they are jinxed.NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:37 pmThey have had international companies building loads of large scale infrastructure projects here. The Light Rail for example was done by a mob from Spain.SportCapital wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:51 amThousands hey.......NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:27 am
There are thousands of construction companies able to do it both locally and internationally. There are large construction companies building major projects all over Australia.
Do you actually think all those cranes for major projects in Sydney and Melbourne are Lendlease?![]()
I bet your an office worker thinking that.
Anyways at the end of the day Rugby Union, Soccer and Rugby League will have the best stadium venues in Sydney.![]()
Lend lease, Multiplex and Balderstone.
They're my three suitors.
Name 3 others with large stadium experience?
Not forgetting "on time and on budget".
I know these would all be capable of building the stadium
Mirvac
Watpac
John Holland
BGC
ADCO
Fulton Hogan
CPB Contractors
Then you have loads of international companies that could do it. Do seriously think there are only 3 construction companies in Australia that can build a stadium??![]()
Sour grapes from the AFL fanboys. You all tried to stop the stadium from being knocked down. IT GOT DEMOLISHED![]()
You all tried to stop ANZ from being reconfigured to a rectangular stadium.
IT'S BEING RECONFIGURED![]()
You all complained about the Parramatta stadium rebuild. IT GOT REBUILT![]()
Now your all saying they won't find someone to build a new Sydney Football Stadium lol..
GUESS WHAT GUYS, IT WILL BE REBUILT AND WILL BE BETTER THAN EVERY AFL STADIUM IN SYDNEY![]()
![]()
Seriously what a bunch of pelicans you AFL lot areClutching at straws so desperate to stop Rugby, Soccer and Union from having all the best venues. But it's happening
Go back to Melbourne if you dont like it.![]()
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