Fight Club - Football TV Ratings (AFL vs NRL)

[NlolRL]

Lol
I point out the negatives of the nrl broadcast .. of course in your warped little world ..you dismiss that.
Well that's just an opinion .
My opinion is the negatives cancel each other out .
& we win ...comfortably

i described the advantages and disadvantages for both you liar.

And no, there is no way on earth they cancel each other out. The AFL's disadvantages are the exact reason why we win almost every head to head comparison, including the finals, yet lose the totals. Only a small number of our games are shown under similar conditions as yours, which we win. The remaining AFL games are all shown concurrently and crammed into a few days, which rate very low accordingly.

[NlolRL]

Oh & as for the bullshit you posted . Please show where the AFL broadcast 2 fri night games at the same time .
I'll wait.

it's an example you imbecile. We do this every Saturday. I used Thursday because its a day where you have FTA

[pussycat]

& im a moron .
Lol
You make excuses for the AFL while ignoring the negatives of the nrl .
You are so one eyed/ brainwashed/ stupid that you just can't accept when RL wins .

As I said any negatives of broadcasts of AFL are matched by the negatives of the NRL .

I'll wait for the but but but bullshit .

Back to the jungle or the mental ward .
You need help

the NRL's positives far outway the AFL's. Nothing can overcome the disadvantage of playing 2 games at the same time for average viewers per game.

Positives for the NRL:
The NRL spread their 16 hours of telecast over 4 days making it easy for fans to watch every game
The NRL avoid concurrent games
The NRL play every homeland game on the main channel
The NRL play either the Broncos or another Qld side in most of their primetime FTA games
15 of the NRL's sides are in the same timezone making primetime scheduling easy

Negatives for the NRL:
1 team is in NZ with ratings not included

AFL's positives:
The AFL target home teams on FTA
The AFLs smaller markets have an extra FTA game, although this is shown on 7mate and sometimes on delay

AFL's negatives:
27 hours of content over 3 days, 15 of which is on a single day, making it impractical for fans to watch every game
Most games are shown against another game, basically halving the average viewers per game
The AFL is played in markets from 3 different time zones making prime time scheduling difficult for every market
The AFL show games to their biggest market on 7mate due to an overlap with the evening news

How you think the above is equitable is beyond me

AFL matches of a Saturday:

PTV


^6 Matches 1
5 matches 12
4 matches 7
3 matches 3

FTA

Melbourne 23
Sydney 33
Perth 36
Adelaide 32
Brisbane 40

In the 3 Saturdays were the AFL had 3 matches there ratings were 199,162, 152, 223, 175, 160, 188, 177, 147 averaging 176k.

NRL matches of a Saturday.

PTV

3 almost all weeks (although the weeks NZ played on Saturday we only got ratings for 2.5 matches)


FTA

Sydney - Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil ........................................

Brisbane - See Above
Melbourne - See Above
Though we do get a FTA match each Saturday for the last 5 rounds

the NRL's average for Saturday would probably be over 260.280 if NZ ratings were included.

[NlolRL]

& im a moron .
Lol
You make excuses for the AFL while ignoring the negatives of the nrl .
You are so one eyed/ brainwashed/ stupid that you just can't accept when RL wins .

As I said any negatives of broadcasts of AFL are matched by the negatives of the NRL .

I'll wait for the but but but bullshit .

Back to the jungle or the mental ward .
You need help

the NRL's positives far outway the AFL's. Nothing can overcome the disadvantage of playing 2 games at the same time for average viewers per game.

Positives for the NRL:
The NRL spread their 16 hours of telecast over 4 days making it easy for fans to watch every game
The NRL avoid concurrent games
The NRL play every homeland game on the main channel
The NRL play either the Broncos or another Qld side in most of their primetime FTA games
15 of the NRL's sides are in the same timezone making primetime scheduling easy

Negatives for the NRL:
1 team is in NZ with ratings not included

AFL's positives:
The AFL target home teams on FTA
The AFLs smaller markets have an extra FTA game, although this is shown on 7mate and sometimes on delay

AFL's negatives:
27 hours of content over 3 days, 15 of which is on a single day, making it impractical for fans to watch every game
Most games are shown against another game, basically halving the average viewers per game
The AFL is played in markets from 3 different time zones making prime time scheduling difficult for every market
The AFL show games to their biggest market on 7mate due to an overlap with the evening news

How you think the above is equitable is beyond me

AFL matches of a Saturday:

PTV


^6 Matches 1
5 matches 12
4 matches 7
3 matches 3

FTA

Melbourne 23
Sydney 33
Perth 36
Adelaide 32
Brisbane 40

In the 3 Saturdays were the AFL had 3 matches there ratings were 199,162, 152, 223, 175, 160, 188, 177, 147 averaging 176k.

NRL matches of a Saturday.

PTV

3 almost all weeks (although the weeks NZ played on Saturday we only got ratings for 2.5 matches)


FTA

Sydney - Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil Nil ........................................

Brisbane - See Above
Melbourne - See Above
Though we do get a FTA match each Saturday for the last 5 rounds

the NRL's average for Saturday would probably be over 260.280 if NZ ratings were included.

How many of the NRLs Saturday games were exclusive to foxtel? All.

How many AFL games were exclusive to Foxtel. Very few. I think you'll find the AFL games that were exclusive to foxtel rated far higher than our Saturday average.

[pussycat]

I added up the figures and posted them here, not that long back. I'm sure you read them at the time . There was little or no difference. there is almost 100k difference in those 3 matches were you had 3 non overlapping matches. There is also a game played most Saturday, played with no overlap and gets similar results!

But what about all the extra FTA you get? What, slipped your mind? or you don't want to talk about that

[AFLcrap1]

Lol
I point out the negatives of the nrl broadcast .. of course in your warped little world ..you dismiss that.
Well that's just an opinion .
My opinion is the negatives cancel each other out .
& we win ...comfortably

i described the advantages and disadvantages for both you liar.

And no, there is no way on earth they cancel each other out. The AFL's disadvantages are the exact reason why we win almost every head to head comparison, including the finals, yet lose the totals. Only a small number of our games are shown under similar conditions as yours, which we win. The remaining AFL games are all shown concurrently and crammed into a few days, which rate very low accordingly.

Whoosh another Aflol fan comprehension fail .
I said you dismissed the nrl disadvantages ... no lie there .
Your opinion is worth 2 parts of fuck all .

You tried to use the fri night game as some example .
Well fuck me trying to get your point across using the highest rAting game of the week as an example .
Then rant about concurrent games on a sat.
Lol
The same sat AFL fans have long claimed is NOT peak viewing ..is the worst time to broadcast .

So I saw through your little pathetic attemp to back up your opinion by posting FRI night numbers .
Which are nothing like Sat numbers .

You seem to avoid the fact that AFL has more FTA games ..which reach far more people than STV .

Funny that .

You also seem to think that playing two games at once which are targeting home markets is a disadvantage .
Lol .
What they would lose in the casual viewer they pick up in the home market .

[SportCapital]

What are we really talking about here.....?

With the Oztam panel only metering about 0.03% of the population I really struggle to take ratings seriously.

And without the Northern territory counted at all, a single Oztam ratings box accounts for roughly 2900 people.

I read that the Australian panel is fairly large comparatively.
But 1:2900, that's a hell of a stretch.

You leaguers bang on and bang on about this monumental victory.
Where in reality the nightly battles for ratings could come down to a handful of ratings box's.
That's the difference when you boil it all down.

And none of the ratings who ha brings any direct benifit to either league until broadcast deal time.
And we know who won that war....

Now, being slaughtered in the indicia that matter, you know, the ones that bring in huge revenue every year, electric atmosphere at games and unrivalled loyality.
I understand you leaguers beating your chests screaming ratings are the be all and end all.


But 1:2900, I just can't see it.

[AFLcrap1]

Lol the media outlay Billions of $$$$ on what these ratings boxes say .
So they can't be too inaccurate .

[leeroy*NRL*]

OK, since you guys are so simple, imagine this:

The NRL decide to move one of the Saturday games to Thursday night at 7.30pm to target home markets with 2 games.

Let's say a single game on Thursday between the Broncos and Sharks rates around 950k (250 fox, 700 Ch9)

With 2 targeted games they decide to show Storm v Roosters to Vic, NSW, SA, and WA, and Broncos v Sharks to QLD.
- Storm v Roosters would rate say 50k in Melb, 20k for WA, SA, 300k for Sydney, 200k regionals, and 140k on Fox = 710k
- Broncos v sharks would rate say 200k in Brisbane and 100k in regional QLD, plus 130k Fox = 430k
TOTAL audience = 1140k

Ratings per game = 570k

So you ratings per game have dropped from 950k to 570k despite targeting home markets

the difference here>>
is concurrent games on saturday are aired into different markets>> on FTA AND FOX so the AVG will be higher

where as the NRL have have no overlapping but with 3 exclusive games on FOX the audience has been reduced.
and is limited>>

I have stated this before>> if NRL exclusive games were on FTA you would have a huge point
and it would be a massive advantage to NRL

but the NRL games are not and are exclusive to FOX> giving the EDGE to the AFL> even knowing
they are concurrent games>> FTA is the key to the AFL's Advantage of my point>>

[NlolRL]

I added up the figures and posted them here, not that long back. I'm sure you read them at the time . There was little or no difference. there is almost 100k difference in those 3 matches were you had 3 non overlapping matches. There is also a game played most Saturday, played with no overlap and gets similar results!

But what about all the extra FTA you get? What, slipped your mind? or you don't want to talk about that

Many AFL games shown concurrently rate below 100k on fox.
I would venture to say none of the games shown in isolation on fox rate lower than 150k
I would venture to say none of the games exclusive to fox rate lower than 150k

That alone proves that concurrent scheduling drastically affects the AFL ratings totals and averages.

Of course AFLc will come out and say the AFL target their markets with multiple games. But tell me this, which game targets a higher home market? A single game with Broncos v Bunnies, or two AFL games of the Crows v Bombers, and Roos v Saints?

[NlolRL]

Whoosh another Aflol fan comprehension fail .
I said you dismissed the nrl disadvantages ... no lie there .

I didnt dismiss them, I said they were minor compared to ours

You tried to use the fri night game as some example .
Well fuck me trying to get your point across using the highest rAting game of the week as an example .
Then rant about concurrent games on a sat.

I used Thursday as the example because its not your biggest night, but its FTA

You seem to avoid the fact that AFL has more FTA games ..which reach far more people than STV .

wrong again. I said Melbourne doesnt get more, only our smaller markets do, and many are on dela or on 7mate. In fact Perth get almost every game on 7mate because the games overlap with the news, which is a massive disadvantage

You also seem to think that playing two games at once which are targeting home markets is a disadvantage .

it is when two games compete against each other on Fox

[pussycat]

I added up the figures and posted them here, not that long back. I'm sure you read them at the time . There was little or no difference. there is almost 100k difference in those 3 matches were you had 3 non overlapping matches. There is also a game played most Saturday, played with no overlap and gets similar results!

But what about all the extra FTA you get? What, slipped your mind? or you don't want to talk about that

Many AFL games shown concurrently rate below 100k on fox.
I would venture to say none of the games shown in isolation on fox rate lower than 150k
I would venture to say none of the games exclusive to fox rate lower than 150k

That alone proves that concurrent scheduling drastically affects the AFL ratings totals and averages.

Of course AFLc will come out and say the AFL target their markets with multiple games. But tell me this, which game targets a higher home market? A single game with Broncos v Bunnies, or two AFL games of the Crows v Bombers, and Roos v Saints?

Colours to the Blind!

[AFLcrap1]

A Japanese soldier who refused to surrender after World War Two ended and spent 29 years in the jungle has died aged 91 in Tokyo. Hiroo Onoda remained in the jungle on Lubang Island near Luzon, in the Philippines, until 1974 because he did not believe that the war had ended.

[NlolRL]

A Japanese soldier who refused to surrender after World War Two ended and spent 29 years in the jungle has died aged 91 in Tokyo. Hiroo Onoda remained in the jungle on Lubang Island near Luzon, in the Philippines, until 1974 because he did not believe that the war had ended.

more deflection.

and these fools wonder why AFL fans cant be bothered

[Terry]

I added up the figures and posted them here, not that long back. I'm sure you read them at the time . There was little or no difference. there is almost 100k difference in those 3 matches were you had 3 non overlapping matches. There is also a game played most Saturday, played with no overlap and gets similar results!

But what about all the extra FTA you get? What, slipped your mind? or you don't want to talk about that

Many AFL games shown concurrently rate below 100k on fox.
I would venture to say none of the games shown in isolation on fox rate lower than 150k
I would venture to say none of the games exclusive to fox rate lower than 150k

That alone proves that concurrent scheduling drastically affects the AFL ratings totals and averages.

Of course AFLc will come out and say the AFL target their markets with multiple games. But tell me this, which game targets a higher home market? A single game with Broncos v Bunnies, or two AFL games of the Crows v Bombers, and Roos v Saints?

Ok here we go........again!!!!! Pal, the incontrovertable fact is that in 2018 RL had around 20 million more viewers than AFL. In that figure I am using NRL, SOO and a few International games that add up to the exact same number of games in the AFL season, finals included. PLEASE NOTE - the same number of games. A pretty fair comparison I would say.

That is a monumental win to RL. As such it could be fairly said that RL is the most popular sport on Australian TV in 2018.

You argue that the cumulative number is not representative of the actual popularity of a code. Good luck with that one pal!!!!!

You then give us a myriad of excuses why the AFL could, should, maybe, get bigger ratings. Most are around scheduling. Some of your points may be correct. The fact remains though that RL thrashed the AFL this year. The only way to prove your point is to get Gilty to change the scheduling & see what any perceived increase would be. He won't do it.....so tough titties. The facts are the facts.

Conversely the NRL only has the home ratings for 15 teams. NZ ratings this year increased by 40%. Over the season that's about another 7 million viewers in total. That's an actual fact.....not a could, should or maybe.

You can and will continue to tell us that the AFL wins most Fridays and finals and that 'proves' they are the most popular code. You are right that on balance more people watch AFL than RL on Friday's & finals. However the numbers and averages over the year, taking in RL's 3 tiers, proves RL is the easy winner.

It's facts v could, should, maybe. The codes have different structures and viewing patterns. AFL do well on Fridays. RL go stupendously with SOO, are very strong with Internationals and have great domestic (NRL) numbers.

(Having said that the NRL comp alone, with many less games, outrated the AFL season for the first time in many years.)

You can and will continue on and on and on with your excuses, theories and spurious comparisons. It won't change the facts.

I will not be going round and round the goldfish bowl with you about this again......it's been done to death pal. Let's just say you can stick to your if, but's and maybe's and I'll stick to the cold hard facts.