Re: 2017 - AFL / AFLW - Australian Football TV Ratings

[Terry]

Yes we can
3 top levels shown nationally
Or to put it in terms the hicks will understand
We have 3 tiers
Domestic state & international .
Just because you mob have nothing to compare doesn't mean we have to discount our ratings .
We ain't talking state league games
We are talking the top levels of each sport .
We. Have a few extra levels .
Maybe if someone was interested you mob could have a few more levels .

And we are free to ignore Origin and Internationals, as they have no comparison to any other domestic sporting league in the country.

Not that I do in any case.

Agreed Wookie. Anyone can ignore whatever they like. Like Fred - he's got a pathological hatred of Kiwi's so strikes out the Warriors ratings.

The fairest way, I suggest, is to have a table for H&A and separate ones for RL SOO and Internationals. Bearing in mind that the AFL plays something like 6 or 8 extra games I'm happy to count only the 3 SOO games and say 3 or 5 Internationals, or whatever number will equal the AFL H&A numbers. And hey presto, we are comparing the same number of games.

I also however realise that you are hamstrung by no longer being allowed to put the numbers in tables for some stupid reason.

[Fred]

Lol grasp those straws a bit tighter
We are talking top level of both sports .

Not our fault you only have one level .
We have 3.

No offence ... but if anyone clasps at straws it's the rl mob on here year after year. Want to count every game broadcast ... okay let's count every game broadcast .... oh no ... we don't televise women's rl so you can't count that ... oh okay ... well we don't have SoO .... oh but that's different ... soo is out second level above club level ... then we have internationals ... well aflw is the highest women's level ... oh but that's different we don't do women's football that much ....

Okay how about just home and away ... oh no ... you have more matches ..... we want to include nz viewers ... but this is about which is more popular in Australia ... we then its only 15 teams. You guys have an excuse for everything ....


How about this ... how about we compare averages ... but a better measure of central tendency would be the medium .... as averages seems to be comprised apparently... let's see which hone and away rated better, which finals rated better, which combined rated better ... and add in total including rep games.

I'm sure if Aussie rules win that there will be more excuses or wanting to redefine boundaries.

And here we go .......

[NlolRL]

I like Wookie's idea of having tables that allow us to compare each category. The we can see which home and away season gets more viewers. After all, this represents over 90% of each code's games. We can then add and subtract NZ, rep games, and preseason games as we please depending on the comparison we wish to make.

[Terry]

I like Wookie's idea of having tables that allow us to compare each category. The we can see which home and away season gets more viewers. After all, this represents over 90% of each code's games. We can then add and subtract NZ, rep games, and preseason games as we please depending on the comparison we wish to make.

Yeah, that's a really good idea my friend. That way you fumblers can use Fred's strike in and strike out policy to manufacture a win for the fumbling league and feel good about your little lives Lololololololololololol.

[NlolRL]

I like Wookie's idea of having tables that allow us to compare each category. The we can see which home and away season gets more viewers. After all, this represents over 90% of each code's games. We can then add and subtract NZ, rep games, and preseason games as we please depending on the comparison we wish to make.

Yeah, that's a really good idea my friend. That way you fumblers can use Fred's strike in and strike out policy to manufacture a win for the fumbling league and feel good about your little lives Lololololololololololol.

No, we can then get an idea of which code is more popular on TV when similar conditions are compared. From my perspective that's the entire point of this forum. I couldnt care less if RL has SOO. Yay, well done, but comparing to a code that doesnt have that format is pointless

[Terry]

I like Wookie's idea of having tables that allow us to compare each category. The we can see which home and away season gets more viewers. After all, this represents over 90% of each code's games. We can then add and subtract NZ, rep games, and preseason games as we please depending on the comparison we wish to make.

Yeah, that's a really good idea my friend. That way you fumblers can use Fred's strike in and strike out policy to manufacture a win for the fumbling league and feel good about your little lives Lololololololololololol.

No, we can then get an idea of which code is more popular on TV when similar conditions are compared. From my perspective that's the entire point of this forum. I couldnt care less if RL has SOO. Yay, well done, but comparing to a code that doesnt have that format is pointless

You poor bugger Lololololololololol. As long as you believe it that's all that matters.

[NlolRL]

Yeah, that's a really good idea my friend. That way you fumblers can use Fred's strike in and strike out policy to manufacture a win for the fumbling league and feel good about your little lives Lololololololololololol.

No, we can then get an idea of which code is more popular on TV when similar conditions are compared. From my perspective that's the entire point of this forum. I couldnt care less if RL has SOO. Yay, well done, but comparing to a code that doesnt have that format is pointless

You poor bugger Lololololololololol. As long as you believe it that's all that matters.

ditto

[pussycat]

Lol grasp those straws a bit tighter
We are talking top level of both sports .

Not our fault you only have one level .
We have 3.

No offence ... but if anyone clasps at straws it's the rl mob on here year after year. Want to count every game broadcast ... okay let's count every game broadcast .... oh no ... we don't televise women's rl so you can't count that ... oh okay ... well we don't have SoO .... oh but that's different ... soo is out second level above club level ... then we have internationals ... well aflw is the highest women's level ... oh but that's different we don't do women's football that much ....

Okay how about just home and away ... oh no ... you have more matches ..... we want to include nz viewers ... but this is about which is more popular in Australia ... we then its only 15 teams. You guys have an excuse for everything ....


How about this ... how about we compare averages ... but a better measure of central tendency would be the medium .... as averages seems to be comprised apparently... let's see which hone and away rated better, which finals rated better, which combined rated better ... and add in total including rep games.

I'm sure if Aussie rules win that there will be more excuses or wanting to redefine boundaries.

And here we go .......

Fred , on that list of matches shown , the one that Wookie put up. What was the number of RL matches and what was the number of AFL matches??????????????? And wasn't it your idea to do it that way?

Averages don't work Fred, nor any of the other terms you looked up in the dictionary. You can only average like things. FTA is totally different to PTV. Even a FTA game just going to certain markets cannot be compared with any accuracy.

Just as a 'Test match and one day averages added together are meaningless they are 2 separate things and need to be treated that way .


The only thing that meaning is accumulate ratings from all matches. And highest rating match and rugby league wins them both.

[Terry]

Lol grasp those straws a bit tighter
We are talking top level of both sports .

Not our fault you only have one level .
We have 3.

No offence ... but if anyone clasps at straws it's the rl mob on here year after year. Want to count every game broadcast ... okay let's count every game broadcast .... oh no ... we don't televise women's rl so you can't count that ... oh okay ... well we don't have SoO .... oh but that's different ... soo is out second level above club level ... then we have internationals ... well aflw is the highest women's level ... oh but that's different we don't do women's football that much ....

Okay how about just home and away ... oh no ... you have more matches ..... we want to include nz viewers ... but this is about which is more popular in Australia ... we then its only 15 teams. You guys have an excuse for everything ....


How about this ... how about we compare averages ... but a better measure of central tendency would be the medium .... as averages seems to be comprised apparently... let's see which hone and away rated better, which finals rated better, which combined rated better ... and add in total including rep games.

I'm sure if Aussie rules win that there will be more excuses or wanting to redefine boundaries.

And here we go .......

G'day Fredo, say hi to the girls for me. Have you bundy'd them off yet? Lololololololololol.

Now down to business: RL folk here don't want to count every game broadcast only the elite levels of the game. RL has 3 levels of elite competition. Domestic comp, SOO and Internationals. The same people that play in the domestic comp are selected for SOO and then Internationals if they're good enough. It's a progression of the elite players of the game.

You're lovely female fumblers are a piece of fluff that play at z grade under 9 level. How you can compare them to SOO shows your insanity Lolololololololololololol. Your state leagues and other comps are no names that can't make the elite level. Why would you count their ratings, miniscule as they are? They're meaningless, pointless and hopeless.

Then you waffle on about averages in some indecipherable semi coherent rant. What was all that about Fred Lolololololololol.

Ok - to cut to the chase: I don't speak for all RL folk here but I am happy to compare an even number of games over the season. All at the elite level. AFL H&A have 6 more games than the NRL. We add in 3 SOO games and 3 internationals and hey presto - there's comparison. Equal number of games. All at the elite level. All good.

Call me a genius Lololololololololololololol.

Oh.....and we have a separate table for NZ ratings to show what the NRL as a comp rate. Happy Fredo????

[Fred]

Just compare home and away ...I don't know the winner but the fear shown by Terry and co suggests the AFL win. I would doubt this but they are worried about something.

Oh ... and no terry I didn't read most of your post

[AFLcrap1]

Just compare home and away .

So the advantages you get by having an extra game per week
Plus the extra FTA game per week are Ok .
Yet we can't count our rep games
freddy ..your fear & bias are showing .

[docker24]

Hey crappy send me your address so I can post you the accurate figures haha

[Fred]

I just want to compare both competitions that's all. I do agree it is hard given the nuances. Pussy doesn't want averages even though that would benefit the nrl . Good to see him and Nrol agree.

I do agree with crapper that cumulative really means nothing unless you have the same amount of games in the home and away you really can't use that. I don't think adding in games from another competition and level solves that... just makes it more converluted. You could compare finals ... same games, in isolation etc but the AFL win that so no way rl people will go for that.
The median would be the way to go I think but you are going to get Nrol disagreeing due to some games not in isolation. And all that stuff. The median would give a good average though. That's what they use for house prices ... the median house price for this suburb is.......

Then you have extra things. Like rlwc comes along how long . You could add that in but it is really an anonomoly and just confuses more.

Anyway... people are going to pick and choose what stat suits their argument or bias. No eon going to convince the other.

[NlolRL]

I just want to compare both competitions that's all. I do agree it is hard given the nuances. Pussy doesn't want averages even though that would benefit the nrl . Good to see him and Nrol agree.

No, I dont want averages since they make absolutely no sense when games are shown concurrently. In fact season totals are basically meaningless too. What exactly do they prove? They certain dont show popularity given the massive differences in schedules across 6 months. Probably the only thing they could be used for would be predicting TV rights.

If you want to see the difference in popularity of each code on TV compare like for like. The 9 finals were a great measure, and we all know who won that comparison, quite comfortable too.

[pussycat]

I just want to compare both competitions that's all. I do agree it is hard given the nuances. Pussy doesn't want averages even though that would benefit the nrl . Good to see him and Nrol agree.

I do agree with crapper that cumulative really means nothing unless you have the same amount of games in the home and away you really can't use that. I don't think adding in games from another competition and level solves that... just makes it more converluted. You could compare finals ... same games, in isolation etc but the AFL win that so no way rl people will go for that.
The median would be the way to go I think but you are going to get Nrol disagreeing due to some games not in isolation. And all that stuff. The median would give a good average though. That's what they use for house prices ... the median house price for this suburb is.......

Then you have extra things. Like rlwc comes along how long . You could add that in but it is really an anonomoly and just confuses more.

Anyway... people are going to pick and choose what stat suits their argument or bias. No eon going to convince the other.

As usual your waffling on with a lot of shit Fred. Wookie done the figures, just the way you wanted, put them in columns and everything . And, once again, you came second . Your idea to take an Average turned out to be nothing but an embarrassing joke, So how the fark are we going to get the median ?????

There is only one way to see which code is the most watched on tv and its not your mob. Add up the ratings for all matches, all , not just the ones that suit you, and see which code has the most, simple, way to simple for a complex mind like your own. But But But wait, If we do it that way were not going to get your desired result

We currently have less matches and yet still win, So how is the result going to different if we increase the number of our matches so we have as many as the AFL??? Your sounding like LOL's if you want to cherry pick through the results until you come up with the desired results