The AFL just made an eye-catching change to its logo

[Terry]

A toothless bloke in a pub in Frankston counts them.

[King-Eliagh]

Buzz is homophobic. Hes scared of gay people for some strange reason. He's another glaring example of the weak and immoral AFL supporter. There's tonnes of em just like him. In fact I'd argue that if took talking footy as a case study the AFL supporters would have at least twice as many homophobes and racists in their ranks. Just the way it is I spose ...

You want my kids to be taught to be gay at school and to entertain thoughts of taking drugs to stop their natural growth so as to prepare for irreversible surgery.

What happens to the mental health of a transgender person who now wants an irreversible procedure reversed because they made the decision to go ahead with irreversible procedures at too young an age to even know what that meant?

Does the AFL just forget about that little conflict of interest? THE AFL ARE PUSHING TOO MANY BARROWS AND THEY BECOME CONFLICTED: THAT IS THE VERY REAL AND PRESENT DANGER OF GETTING INVOLVED IN POLITICS. YOU CAN'T TELL ME I'M WRONG ON THIS BECAUSE I AM 100 PERCENT CORRECT.

I am protecting my kids from people like you who won't let the no campaign even debate consequences in a democracy: you sir are dodgy!

What is democracy again fine sir?

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Debate all ya like you silly scared pathetic clown. Oh and just FYI, I'm not coming to get ur dumb kids just so you know ok.

And ummm do you seriously believe that, and I'm quoting you here pal "you can be taught to be gay" ???



You are one frightened lil homophobe bro

Now don't have a big cwy cwy now and whinge that I'm not letting you have yer lil debate. Be my guest buzz, respond when ur ready, when you've got that fear in the belly!

[NRL&NFLweLaughATafl]

Yep, Pride Game and now this. Very proud of our national game and its leadership.

Mixing sport with politics is not really a good match.

But saying that. AFL is the chosen homosexual football code by the gay community.

The Sydney Swans have the rainbow Swans fangroup. Which is for it's large gay supporter base.
And they have the gay pride rounds with St Kilda etc..

So it all makes sense to support the yes vote for AFL.

[Buzz]

Dear King-Eliagh, we are talking about impressionable young children being 'taught' here so why don't you just simply realise I have the right to ask serious questions about that.

It is a democracy afterall isn't it?

Ages of consent exist for a reason, do they not?

Why are the ages of consent different for males and females, for instance? You are in deep deep water if you want to start telling million of voters they don't have the right in an alleged democracy to discuss the consequences of such major changes such as changing marriage from an institution of heterosexuality to one of debauchery

The AFL better have some answers because a lot of money has been fraudulently siphoned off of football fans for a controversial political campaign they are not allowed to even voice their opinion in.

Do you know what debauchery is?

[Buzz]

Yep, Pride Game and now this. Very proud of our national game and its leadership.

Mixing sport with politics is not really a good match.

But saying that. AFL is the chosen homosexual football code by the gay community.

The Sydney Swans have the rainbow Swans fangroup. Which is for it's large gay supporter base.
And they have the gay pride rounds with St Kilda etc..

So it all makes sense to support the yes vote for AFL.

I am saying they are taking money for political campaigns: millions upon millions of FOXTEL subscriptions and ticket sales are actually going toward campaigning for the education of our young and impression children to be gay in school and entertain the taking of drugs to stop their normal bodily processes so as to prepare them for irreversible surgery. I call this fraud, bordering on treason.

That's all I'm saying and as a parent I have the obligation to protect my children how I see fit.

This whole ssm marriage debate is very fishy when you can't even discuss the consequences of policy change in an alleged democracy. Politics is all about explanation and the AFL had better start explaining themselves.

Is this a democracy, or is it infact a dictatorship?

[King-Eliagh]

Dear King-Eliagh, we are talking about impressionable young children being 'taught' here so why don't you just simply realise I have the right to ask serious questions about that.

It is a democracy afterall isn't it?

Ages of consent exist for a reason, do they not?

Why are the ages of consent different for males and females, for instance? You are in deep deep water if you want to start telling million of voters they don't have the right in an alleged democracy to discuss the consequences of such major changes such as changing marriage from an institution of heterosexuality to one of debauchery

The AFL better have some answers because a lot of money has been fraudulently siphoned off of football fans for a controversial political campaign they are not allowed to even voice their opinion in.

Do you know what debauchery is?

When did I not realise you have the right to ask questions about what kids are taught at school? Man ur just making shit up out of sheer fear and loathing! And my dear numnuts, you didn't even ask questions about what ur kids are actually taught at school now did you? you made a clear statement that schools would be "teaching ur kids to be gay" I ask again, do you seriously believe one can be taught to be gay?

Common , spit it out numnuts, do you seriously believe that ur kids can be taught to be gay?

[Buzz]

King-Eliagh,

Haven't you ever heard of 'grooming'?

This is what the AFL are doing to our kids: you think football leagues should be involved in politics now?

[Buzz]

It's fraud, bordering on Treason. I have made my case and invite all of you as forum members to choose whether you believe me or not!

[King-Eliagh]

King-Eliagh,

Haven't you ever heard of 'grooming'?

This is what the AFL are doing to our kids: you think football leagues should be involved in politics now?

Oh dear god, you need to man up and stop being so frightened. Seriously, you need help dude and cotton wool ain't gunna be the answer ok.

Grooming debauchery, yeah I've heard of this. Wanna actually specify why da fukk you are actually asking these questions other than out of fear? Common debate boy, out with ur actual debate already.

And answer my fukkin question. I've answered urs. Do you actually believe ur kids can be "taught to be gay"???????????

Is that what the schools are doing???????

[Buzz]

What do you think 'grooming' means? Hint, because you're obviously a complete moron: it's got something to do with teaching!

You seriously need to get a brain! You just can't admit you're wrong.

Kids need protection.... only a moron like you would say they don't need their parents to protect them from those who would seek to 'groom' our children.

You, Sir King-Eliagh, are definitely a moron.

[AFLcrap1]

Buzz is homophobic. Hes scared of gay people for some strange reason. He's another glaring example of the weak and immoral AFL supporter. There's tonnes of em just like him. In fact I'd argue that if took talking footy as a case study the AFL supporters would have at least twice as many homophobes and racists in their ranks. Just the way it is I spose ...

Buzz is the prob one of the main reasons a gay male AFL player won't come out .

Weird lot those southern AFL hicks
Stuck in some 1950s time warp .

If a Dark skinned AFL player came out as gay would buzz & co throw bananas at him before they run him outa town .
That'd be the worst ..black & gay .

[AFLcrap1]

It's fraud, bordering on Treason. I have made my case and invite all of you as forum members to choose whether you believe me or not!

Your legal reasoning reminds me of a previous legal whizz on here a few years ago

TLPG
Now there was a total
Fruitloop
A complete & utter know all know nothing Nutjob
But in saying that

Compared to you he looks like the sanest person on Earth .

[Fred]

I'm still waiting for him to answer how same sex marriage will influence what is taught in schools! How will it change what is currently there?

I'm happy for you to have your say Buzz. I'm happy to debate. But please answer the questions that are put to you.

My thinking, and I could be wrong, is that you are actually against homosexuality. That's your choice I guess. But homosexuality is here, has always been here, and will continue to be here. That's it going to change. I think your issue is that if we change the law to allow same sex marriage than this is society giving approval to homosexuality. And you don't like that. Which is fine if that's your opinion. Just state that. Do t bring in all this stuff about kids being groomed (look up that meaning by the way) or taught to be gay. That had nothing to do with same sex marriage. If your worried about kids being taught that homosexuality is okay well that's your right but a different argument.

On a final note. Can I ask you this. How would you respond if your child or grand child was gay?

I would much rather my children be confortable with their sexuality. To express it as heterosexual couples do. That it be no big deal. That he or she do not think they are weird or different. That they are happy and don't contimplate taking their own life .. or worse, actually take their life. All because they feared how society would respond to their sexuality.

[NlolRL]

Buzz is homophobic. Hes scared of gay people for some strange reason. He's another glaring example of the weak and immoral AFL supporter. There's tonnes of em just like him. In fact I'd argue that if took talking footy as a case study the AFL supporters would have at least twice as many homophobes and racists in their ranks. Just the way it is I spose ...

Buzz is the prob one of the main reasons a gay male AFL player won't come out .

Weird lot those southern AFL hicks
Stuck in some 1950s time warp .

If a Dark skinned AFL player came out as gay would buzz & co throw bananas at him before they run him outa town .
That'd be the worst ..black & gay .

next you'll be telling us 'no' voters are mainly AFL fans

[NRL&NFLweLaughATafl]

Yep, Pride Game and now this. Very proud of our national game and its leadership.

Mixing sport with politics is not really a good match.

But saying that. AFL is the chosen homosexual football code by the gay community.

The Sydney Swans have the rainbow Swans fangroup. Which is for it's large gay supporter base.
And they have the gay pride rounds with St Kilda etc..

So it all makes sense to support the yes vote for AFL.

I am saying they are taking money for political campaigns: millions upon millions of FOXTEL subscriptions and ticket sales are actually going toward campaigning for the education of our young and impression children to be gay in school and entertain the taking of drugs to stop their normal bodily processes so as to prepare them for irreversible surgery. I call this fraud, bordering on treason.

That's all I'm saying and as a parent I have the obligation to protect my children how I see fit.

This whole ssm marriage debate is very fishy when you can't even discuss the consequences of policy change in an alleged democracy. Politics is all about explanation and the AFL had better start explaining themselves.

Is this a democracy, or is it infact a dictatorship?

Yeah I think AFL is using it as a marketing strategy because AFL is known as Australias gay football code in in NSW and Qld.

But I agree with you. I think primary school kids should be kept innocent from sex changes and all that lgbt stuff.
Is too young.

Has nothing to do with junior sport when you think about it.