2017 - NRL - Rugby League TV Ratings

[Fred]

I'll take a stab here as this is not totally my area so please correct me if wrong, but aren't the ratings figures estimates based on inferential statistics? Therefore you could have 1000 or 10000 boxes and yet you're still inferring the figure based on population. I think the more you have you may be able to argue greater accuracy however the end figure of people watching is still an estimate. More boxes does not equate to necessarily more people watching ... or less for that matter ... ? It's more around the accuracy of the end figure.

[NlolRL]

I corrected that to Victorian fumblers.

Over 100k on FTA., over 40k on Fox + regionals.

60k for vic regionals for RL

150 metro , so at 1/3... spot on.

bollox. Youve included foxtel then taken 1/3rd, rather than 1/3rd of fta

[NlolRL]

I'll take a stab here as this is not totally my area so please correct me if wrong, but aren't the ratings figures estimates based on inferential statistics? Therefore you could have 1000 or 10000 boxes and yet you're still inferring the figure based on population. I think the more you have you may be able to argue greater accuracy however the end figure of people watching is still an estimate. More boxes does not equate to necessarily more people watching ... or less for that matter ... ? It's more around the accuracy of the end figure.

exactly. There are the same number of boxes in Adelaide as Perth, yet Perth is 50% bigger. There's no way theyd make a box represent the same population for both cities. Ive emailed the point to OZTAm so we'll get their official word soon

[Fred]

Yeah ...I'm pretty sure more boxes doesn't mean you will necessary get more people as your estimate of people watching.

[pussycat]

Yeah ...I'm pretty sure more boxes doesn't mean you will necessary get more people as your estimate of people watching.

Typical desperate fumblers.
If your in Melbourne your much more likely to watch AFL watcher just as If you live in Sydney your more likely to be a league watcher.

IFyou live in Sydney, 5.03 million people(basically league supporters) are being represented by 1475 tv boxes

If you live in Melbourne, 4.67m people(basically AFL supporters) are represented by 1475 tv boxes

[Fred]

Yeah ...I'm pretty sure more boxes doesn't mean you will necessary get more people as your estimate of people watching.

Typical desperate fumblers.
If your in Melbourne your much more likely to watch AFL watcher just as If you live in Sydney your more likely to be a league watcher.

IFyou live in Sydney, 5.03 million people(basically league supporters) are being represented by 1475 tv boxes

If you live in Melbourne, 4.67m people(basically AFL supporters) are represented by 1475 tv boxes

But they are making a guess if you like as to how many are watching. So whether it is a thousand boxed or 10000 boxes is really irrelevant when it comes to infrerentual statistics however the more boxes will make the guess or inference more accurate. They are taking a sample and from that inferring how many in the population are watching. What the size of the sample is really not impacting the final figure so much apart from accuracy ... if that makes sense. So you could have a sample of 1000 and if 500 watch a show you may infer that half the population watched it .... if you had a sample of 100000 and half watched a show you would still be inferring half the population watched the show. Hope that makes sense.

[NlolRL]

Yeah ...I'm pretty sure more boxes doesn't mean you will necessary get more people as your estimate of people watching.

Typical desperate fumblers.
If your in Melbourne your much more likely to watch AFL watcher just as If you live in Sydney your more likely to be a league watcher.

IFyou live in Sydney, 5.03 million people(basically league supporters) are being represented by 1475 tv boxes

If you live in Melbourne, 4.67m people(basically AFL supporters) are represented by 1475 tv boxes

Ive already explained this to you!

Each box represents a certain population based on the total population of the city. Therefore 1 box in Sydney represents more people than 1 box represents in Melbourne. So it balances out.

[Fred]

So if 20 percent of boxes are tuned to a certain channel then the assumption is 20 percent of the population is watching. It's not as bare bones as that but essentially

[pussycat]

60k for vic regionals for RL

150 metro , so at 1/3... spot on.

bollox. Youve included foxtel then taken 1/3rd, rather than 1/3rd of fta

Both foxtel and FTA have regionals. though they may not be 1/3 maybe 10 instead of 15

[pussycat]

Yeah ...I'm pretty sure more boxes doesn't mean you will necessary get more people as your estimate of people watching.

Typical desperate fumblers.
If your in Melbourne your much more likely to watch AFL watcher just as If you live in Sydney your more likely to be a league watcher.

IFyou live in Sydney, 5.03 million people(basically league supporters) are being represented by 1475 tv boxes

If you live in Melbourne, 4.67m people(basically AFL supporters) are represented by 1475 tv boxes

Ive already explained this to you!

Each box represents a certain population based on the total population of the city. Therefore 1 box in Sydney represents more people than 1 box represents in Melbourne. So it balances out.

Each meter contains the viewing of 1 household.

[Fred]

Yes... then from those sampled (that is, those with boxes) they work out using statistics how many would likely be watching. Therefore whether it be 1000 boxes or 3000 recorded as watching ... they take that and estimate how many in the population are watching. The amount sampled would not change the end figure per se although the higher the number the more accurate it is said to be. Obviously there is a point where if you go over a certain number the increased in accuracy is minimal so no real purpose to do so.

So... a sample is taken and an estimate is done. Whether it be 1000 or 10000 does not impact the numbers in the way you are stating ... it may improve accuracy which could see the numbers go up or down. More boxes or people being sampled would not increase end figures. So if the population was 1 million. They sample 1000 and do another sample of 10000. The figure is likely to be similar... it does not mean the 10000 sample will show more people watching simply because more were sampled. Same if they sampled the whole million ... this will be 100 percent accurate but want increase necessarily how many people watched or did what. In fact, the three sampled should be fairly similar.

[pussycat]

Assume you had just 1 meter in Sydney and 1 meter in Melbourne. The next day when you looked at the results on media week it would say ratings for Sydney = 1, Rating for Melbourne = 1 . Both the same. Even though the 1 Sydney meter represents 5m potential league voters and the 1 Melbourne Meter represents 4.6 m potential AFL voters.

[leagueiscrap]

Pissycat I can't believe your loosing sleep and hang all of your hopes on those ratings boxes

1400 off boxes to 4.5 to 5 million people! Lol yet you fob off all other forms of data when it comes to comparing the two codes

[NlolRL]

Assume you had just 1 meter in Sydney and 1 meter in Melbourne. The next day when you looked at the results on media week it would say ratings for Sydney = 1, Rating for Melbourne = 1 . Both the same. Even though the 1 Sydney meter represents 5m potential league voters and the 1 Melbourne Meter represents 4.6 m potential AFL voters.

Wrong. The meters represent a proportion of the market's population. So a 1 in Sydney would register ratings of 5m while a 1 in Melbourne would be 4.6m.

The ratings results arent displayed in units of meters, whichbwould be meaningless, they're in units of viewers.

[Fred]

Assume you had just 1 meter in Sydney and 1 meter in Melbourne. The next day when you looked at the results on media week it would say ratings for Sydney = 1, Rating for Melbourne = 1 . Both the same. Even though the 1 Sydney meter represents 5m potential league voters and the 1 Melbourne Meter represents 4.6 m potential AFL voters.

Looks like loans and ratings aren't your thing pussy. If there was only 1 box they would still extrapolate to how many in the population was watching. It would be accurate all that much obviously but they still infer to the population ...