since 5 new clubs in GWS has been trumpted by the AFL & Beaussie... as massive growth in Sydney.. thats since whenTLPG wrote:Now you're the one pulling stats out of your rear end. Since when is ten RL clubs in Melbourne growth? Sorry - if there really was a growing market there would be a lot more clubs and a push for a second NRL team in Melbourne. Fact is - there isn't.Raiderdave wrote:And I call it irrellavent because despite Aust Rules being played in Sydney for longer then League hasTLPG wrote:AFL teams in Sydney outnumber thugby teams in Melbourne.
I call that having a hold.
And if your silly game can't get a real foothold in a sports mad town like Melbourne, you've got no hope!!
despite it having more clubs in Sydney then League clubs in Melbourne
it has meant nothing in the long run has it
30K people barely giving a frig to watch it live in a city of 5 million
usually no more then another 50K can even bother to flip a button on a remote to watch it on TV .. how unmotivated are Sydneysiders about this game if they won't even do this ...
& how terribly depressing it must be for this code that has spent christ knows how much money trying to convince people in Sydney .. & indeed almost all parts of NSW/ACT & QLD their sport is any good
they have failed miserably , it needs to be conceded to a far better Product that is RL
now we havn't even started with our plans yet .. & even though we aren't a bunch of egotistical arrogant @holes like the AFL is thinking they can just turn up & everyone will love em
our code is the one that will make massive gains in growth
hell participation rates have increased massively in the emerging states of VIC , SA WA etc ... & they just keep going up
we're a code full of humble respectful people who will quietly achieve its goals without the fan fare & grandstanding of the AFL
that sort of behaviour is very unAustralian ... its why they're failing
I call that a massive fail in a sports mad city.
(Croc should debate on topic - or leave)
xman wrote:KE, why is an even comp important?
This couldnt be a clearer explanation of why I said a month or so ago that Beaussie and TLPG are turning people away from their sport with their poor behaviour on this site.crocodileman wrote:******* hell Beaussie - your lies have been debunked!!!
Go to your usual plan:-
Step 1 - deny, deny, deny.
Step 2 - Lies, deception, smoke and mirrors,
Step 3 - More lies
Step 4 - Delete posts
Step 5 - go off on a tangent and not address key points of the post
Step 6 - Get TPLG to lock the thread!
Go the Swans!!
xman wrote:KE, why is an even comp important?
Dont try and threaten me you silly little umpire. Now in your quote you've basically admitted to being "narrow minded" but on topic. As an umpire you should understand that these sort of participants need to, and will inevitably be punished.TLPG wrote:There's a rather big difference between being narrow minded on topic and being a complete and utter trash merchant off topic. There are lines that shouldn't be crossed, even on this board which has more relaxed rules than the others.King-Eliagh wrote:You are part of the topic and constantly trying to direct it your own way rather than bringing an open mind to the topic TLPG. A lot of others in here appear to be doing the same thing. Actually it's been quite funny to watch lately as the debates simply go in narrow minded circles.
Crocman's post is therefore "on topic" and something you should take heed of TLPG.
Suggest you temper your histrionics.
xman wrote:KE, why is an even comp important?
:_<>TLPG wrote:I can't change what is right, and what I have said is right in all respects of AFL v NRL. You are yet to prove otherwise.
The funniest thing is. This guy is NOT joking!TLPG wrote:I can't change what is right, and what I have said is right in allrespects of AFL v NRL. You are yet to prove otherwise.
xman wrote:KE, why is an even comp important?
Hey pussycat, care to comment? Raider? :>::Beaussie wrote:When will we see this new commission you speak of? Reports today suggest News Ltd is prepared to walk away from the negotiations.pussycat wrote:We will get a major increase wether it be a billion or very close to it. It will come because we were grossly under sold by the current owners last time. That wont happen under the New comission which will have no Links with News Ltd or any of its companies like Foxtel.
Whilst I am no fan of Roy Masters as a journalist, what do you make of his article today, in particular the following. Is a major increase as you put it still possible. News Ltd and Foxtel don't see it that way I thinking.
A subcommittee of four people representing the NSWRL, the QRL, NRL clubs and News Ltd, has come up with a beast that has the whiff of camel breath, flat feet unsuited to the challenges of rugby league and the potential to bring the game to its knees.
Still, the purpose of the commission is to replace News Ltd at the next TV-rights deal.
Given Foxtel's recent murmuring about how little it plans to give rugby league, it may be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than an NRL player to become rich, let alone enter the gates of heaven.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z1QcP6kMf1
Stop lying. You know as well as I do that the Swans have many, many more members than all NRL clubs in Sydney. League club memberships to get cheap beer and a meal are not real memberships you know Raider.Raiderdave wrote:FACT.. they're broke & have barely more members then Souths or the Dragons who both have 21K eachBeaussie wrote:FACT - Sydney Swans have bigger crowds, bigger sponsorship deals and many, many more members than all NRL clubs in Sydney
The Giants are yet to even play a game in the AFL and they already have more members than Penrith by your own numbers. Hilarious. :_<>Raiderdave wrote:FACT Parramatta have 12K members ... the Bulldogs have 15K ... the Tigers 10K .. Panthers 7K & these are members ... not pelicans who pay 50 bucks to become a " foundation" member ... please provide evidence of this FACT about GWS having ova 15K members .. or its just more AFL .. blowBeaussie wrote:FACT - GWS Giants already have more members than western Sydney NRL clubs without even having played a game at AFL level.
AFL is growing at a rapid rate in Sydney and NSW with participation rates up 110% to 125,000 in the last five years.Raiderdave wrote:FACT where Sydney is concerned.. 100% increase on nothing ..... is nothing... where the Riverina is concerned , please provide evidence that there has been an increase there ... don't just put up the numbers there which have always been there... & claim an increase ..Beaussie wrote:FACT - Participation rates for the AFL have grown massively in Sydney, NSW/ACT.
Stop lying and look at the actual figures. You're pathetic with your lies.Raiderdave wrote:FACT .. they're down again this year on last year .. which was down on the year before ... which was down on the year beforeBeaussie wrote:FACT - TV ratings continue to increase week after week in Sydney this season.
The higest ever rating football game in Australian history is still Sydney vs North Melbourne in the 1996 Grand Final.Raiderdave wrote:FACT they appeared in another grand final the following year after this highest rating game .. & the ratings plummeted & have done so ever sinceBeaussie wrote:FACT - The highest ever tv ratings for football games in Australia involves the Sydney Swans
More lies.Raiderdave wrote:FACT Code V Code .. which is what TV rights are about ... Rugby league now monsters AFL ( 132 Mill to 124 Mill in 2010) & is increasing its lead ova it every yearBeaussie wrote:FACT - The AFL tv ratings absolute dominate the NRL tv ratings every week of the respective football seasons.
You lot say that every time the AFL does its negotiations. How many more times can you be so wrong.Raiderdave wrote:FACT .. well logical conclusion at least ... not for longBeaussie wrote:FACT - The AFL continues to have the biggest TV rights deals in Australian sporting history.
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More lies. Seriously, take these examples for upcoming rounds in the AFL and NRL.Raiderdave wrote:FACT .. AFL is the cheapest sport to get into on the planet ( even cheaper then the NRL.. by some way ) .. its absurd to compare to it to real comps that actually charge a decent amount to get into itBeaussie wrote:FACT - The AFL now has the 3rd highest average attendances in the world when it comes to all sports
that is all
Did you even look at the tv ratings? As TLPG put it... oh boy.King-Eliagh wrote:Ahhh I knew the ticket prices sounded a bit loose from Raider. Not his normal style.
I'm still with Raiders response on the all important FTA numbers though Beaussie as you havent actually shown any figures to prove him wrong.
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