Wouldn't matter what answers you and the rest of the tin foil brigade were told you'd still disbelieve them. And you really think other sports are any different! This forum is the breeding grounds for the desperately delusional!Terry wrote:The question's are these: Why did Whitfield stay with a club official after he was dobbed in for drug use by his girlfriend? Why didn't he or the club notify the relevant bodies of his change of address as is required? Did the officials try to prevent him getting drug tested due to the drug allegations?
This thing stinks to high heaven. If we get answers to the above questions I have another set of questions that need answering.
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Exactly. Nothing to see here folks.Fred wrote:Seems a disgrunteled ex girlfriend made the claims. Called the player a cuntt ? Whatever the case she certainly wants some revenge... jusrified or otherwise and seems quite determined.
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Bhaaaa
The old AFL way
Take the focus off the offending player & attack the person who highlighted the. Problem .
The old AFL way
Take the focus off the offending player & attack the person who highlighted the. Problem .
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http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/i ... r5u2v.html
It's an old story: AFL football finds a woman to blame
This is a story of deceit. It is the story of a naive footballer doing a profoundly stupid thing, trusting the advice of people who should have known better and running from responsibility.
At the moment that is the story – sex, drugs, lies and football. It is now for authorities to decide if that story is fact or fiction. What this story is not about is the blame and fault of others, or more accurately the deceit of a girlfriend.
This is a story of drug-taking and evasion, what a player might have done, what his boss might have told him to do, of where he went and why he went there.
But that story is starting to be challenged by a competing narrative. This story of Greater Western Sydney player Lachie Whitfield allegedly trying to evade a drug test only got this far because of text messages between Whitfield and his then girlfriend. Without the texts, there would be no case.
The then girlfriend was worried about Lachie's behaviour at the time – about drug-taking, hiding in houses, dodging drug-testers, listening to bad advice – and went to get help or answers at the club.
Somehow who she told or that she told anyone at all has become relevant in this story. Let's be clear, it is not. This is about what Whitfield, Allan and Lambert allegedly did, not her.
This remains a favoured response in football: deflect responsibility onto a woman.
It never takes long for there to be someone other than a player to be at fault and normally it is a woman
First, the stories emerge that the girlfriend went not only to the club to complain that her boyfriend was taking drugs and being encouraged to hide from drug-testers but that she later also went to ASADA.
This is totally irrelevant. What is relevant is what she gave them, not when she did so or why.
What is important is whether the contemporaneous text messages sent between Whitfield and her – when they were together – paint a believable picture that Whitfield was hiding from drug-testers on the advice of his football manager, Graeme Allan, and staying at the house of the club's welfare manager, Craig Lambert.
She would only be relevant if it could be proved that the entire exchange was a fabrication. Phone records can quickly and readily verify where and when texts were sent and thus whether they construct a convincing narrative.
So that is all. Beyond that, she is redundant within this story other than verifying the fact that someone close to him was troubled by his behaviour and corroborates not only his wrong-doing but the wrong-doing of club officials.
Yet helicopters circled her house on Wednesday, a teammate Cam McCarthy called her out for being erratic and other former Giants muttered darkly of her behaviour.
Allan and Lambert both told their prospective new employers – Collingwood and Brisbane – that the AFL integrity investigation was a flimsy go-nowhere probe because the claims were a baseless invention from a jilted girlfriend.
The AFL has sent the entire brief, including the text messages, interviews and phone records but without any recommendation of action, to ASADA to assess.
Whitfield has insisted to his club that he took an illicit drug not a performance-enhancing one. No one doubts that. That is part of the reason for the hand-wringing at the AFL over what is alleged to have occurred. Presently, if found guilty, Whitfield, Allan and Lambert all face four-year mandatory minimum suspensions, a length of sentence that is heavy for what is thought to have been outrageously stupid, but not cheating.
It's an old story: AFL football finds a woman to blame
This is a story of deceit. It is the story of a naive footballer doing a profoundly stupid thing, trusting the advice of people who should have known better and running from responsibility.
At the moment that is the story – sex, drugs, lies and football. It is now for authorities to decide if that story is fact or fiction. What this story is not about is the blame and fault of others, or more accurately the deceit of a girlfriend.
This is a story of drug-taking and evasion, what a player might have done, what his boss might have told him to do, of where he went and why he went there.
But that story is starting to be challenged by a competing narrative. This story of Greater Western Sydney player Lachie Whitfield allegedly trying to evade a drug test only got this far because of text messages between Whitfield and his then girlfriend. Without the texts, there would be no case.
The then girlfriend was worried about Lachie's behaviour at the time – about drug-taking, hiding in houses, dodging drug-testers, listening to bad advice – and went to get help or answers at the club.
Somehow who she told or that she told anyone at all has become relevant in this story. Let's be clear, it is not. This is about what Whitfield, Allan and Lambert allegedly did, not her.
This remains a favoured response in football: deflect responsibility onto a woman.
It never takes long for there to be someone other than a player to be at fault and normally it is a woman
First, the stories emerge that the girlfriend went not only to the club to complain that her boyfriend was taking drugs and being encouraged to hide from drug-testers but that she later also went to ASADA.
This is totally irrelevant. What is relevant is what she gave them, not when she did so or why.
What is important is whether the contemporaneous text messages sent between Whitfield and her – when they were together – paint a believable picture that Whitfield was hiding from drug-testers on the advice of his football manager, Graeme Allan, and staying at the house of the club's welfare manager, Craig Lambert.
She would only be relevant if it could be proved that the entire exchange was a fabrication. Phone records can quickly and readily verify where and when texts were sent and thus whether they construct a convincing narrative.
So that is all. Beyond that, she is redundant within this story other than verifying the fact that someone close to him was troubled by his behaviour and corroborates not only his wrong-doing but the wrong-doing of club officials.
Yet helicopters circled her house on Wednesday, a teammate Cam McCarthy called her out for being erratic and other former Giants muttered darkly of her behaviour.
Allan and Lambert both told their prospective new employers – Collingwood and Brisbane – that the AFL integrity investigation was a flimsy go-nowhere probe because the claims were a baseless invention from a jilted girlfriend.
The AFL has sent the entire brief, including the text messages, interviews and phone records but without any recommendation of action, to ASADA to assess.
Whitfield has insisted to his club that he took an illicit drug not a performance-enhancing one. No one doubts that. That is part of the reason for the hand-wringing at the AFL over what is alleged to have occurred. Presently, if found guilty, Whitfield, Allan and Lambert all face four-year mandatory minimum suspensions, a length of sentence that is heavy for what is thought to have been outrageously stupid, but not cheating.
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Don't you read the previous posts pal?? Don't you check the facts?? "Nothing to see here folks" - that's the mantra of all fumblers. Incredible!!!!!Beaussie wrote:Exactly. Nothing to see here folks.Fred wrote:Seems a disgrunteled ex girlfriend made the claims. Called the player a cuntt ? Whatever the case she certainly wants some revenge... jusrified or otherwise and seems quite determined.
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So you have heard something the rest of us haven't?? The fact the investigation has been with WADA since the start, it's been over 14 months long and there is nothing apart what little is on here - again would matter what was told to you you'd find and blow up the negative. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they were hiding him from her?? Just saying there are multiple scenarios here and WADA have said NOTHING right from the beginning!Terry wrote:Don't you read the previous posts pal?? Don't you check the facts?? "Nothing to see here folks" - that's the mantra of all fumblers. Incredible!!!!!Beaussie wrote:Exactly. Nothing to see here folks.Fred wrote:Seems a disgrunteled ex girlfriend made the claims. Called the player a cuntt ? Whatever the case she certainly wants some revenge... jusrified or otherwise and seems quite determined.
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Lol
Hiding him from her
Fucking hell
The perfect fumblefan
Let's create scenarios that show the druggo player as an innocent
The Gf as the big bad villain .
Jesus wept
Hiding him from her
Fucking hell
The perfect fumblefan
Let's create scenarios that show the druggo player as an innocent
The Gf as the big bad villain .
Jesus wept
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I think the thing is, people are just guessing. I suspect if it were an nrl player people would be espousing opposite views.
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Bullshit
Go read on here about any NRL player under suspicion for wrongdoing .
Posts usually go along the lines of
If he's guilty get rid of him
Not the run to defence of said player attitude that fumblers have
Go read on here about any NRL player under suspicion for wrongdoing .
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If he's guilty get rid of him
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Yeah 'good' point swines. When he was hidden away they were still a couple so I spose poor skinny little Saint Lachie was intimidated by her voicing concerns to the club over what she said was illegal drug taking. Makes sense lololololololol. Big tough fumbler runs and hides at club managers place because girlfriend says ' please get of the drugs Saint Lachie", yep very credible lolololololololol.Swans4ever wrote:So you have heard something the rest of us haven't?? The fact the investigation has been with WADA since the start, it's been over 14 months long and there is nothing apart what little is on here - again would matter what was told to you you'd find and blow up the negative. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they were hiding him from her?? Just saying there are multiple scenarios here and WADA have said NOTHING right from the beginning!Terry wrote:Don't you read the previous posts pal?? Don't you check the facts?? "Nothing to see here folks" - that's the mantra of all fumblers. Incredible!!!!!Beaussie wrote:Exactly. Nothing to see here folks.Fred wrote:Seems a disgrunteled ex girlfriend made the claims. Called the player a cuntt ? Whatever the case she certainly wants some revenge... jusrified or otherwise and seems quite determined.
These fumblers are either wilfully ignorant or just plain ignorant. Either way 'nothing to see here folks' lololololololololololol
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Normal people from the non brainwashed cult just shake their head at the bizarro thinking of the fumblers .
Anything ...let's come up with weirdo scenarios to show little fumbler s probably innocent & it's all the big bad girlfriends fault .
Let's ignore where she contacted the club with concerns about drugs .
Anything ...let's come up with weirdo scenarios to show little fumbler s probably innocent & it's all the big bad girlfriends fault .
Let's ignore where she contacted the club with concerns about drugs .
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Again Freddy 'ol boy you must do research before making a fool of yourself. I'll tell you what isn't a guess - Saint Lachie moves to club managers house after CURRENT girlfriend raises concerns about him using drugs. Neither Saint Lachie nor the club inform the relevant bodies as required that he has moved addresses. The result of that is if the testers decide to test Saint Lachie they wont find him. They are what you call facts pal.Fred wrote:I think the thing is, people are just guessing. I suspect if it were an nrl player people would be espousing opposite views.
Saint Lachie says he wasn't taking drugs and he's got a real nice smile so case closed for GWS. Official say, 'woops, forgot to tell anybody Saint Lachie moved in with me, I"m really sorry.' Case closed again for GWS. More facts.
Yep, just guessing Freddie lololololololololol
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But his GF wasn't with him - it seems that WADA have known this for over 15 months and they have said nothing - it seems conjecture is enough with you lot. No doubt when the inevitable occurs in RL or soccer (and it seems there always is). We will hear the complete reverse of arguments and lies lies. All I'm saying is I want to know the facts before I cast judgement.
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Lordy lordy lordy

Superb article from the age there aflcrap1.

Our aussie rules tossers prob cant even see their own gutlessness in all of this

And wada swines? Wada have probably just gone "oh fuck not that pathetic drug riddled joke of a comp again ... cant they just do the right thing already and tear it all down and rebuild so they dont have a culture of institutionalised drug supporting?"
FFS swines, get a grip mate, WADA's got better things to do than clean up one of the most unrecognised sports in the world.
It stinks out there in Western Sydney folks, to high bloody hell!

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Your hatred for a code of football is beyond words! Whatever happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty, maybe you should wait and see what the investigation reveals before you embark upon your tirad.King-Eliagh wrote:every single fumbler follower in here has referenced that its likely the girls fault
Lordy lordy lordy
Superb article from the age there aflcrap1.
Our aussie rules tossers prob cant even see their own gutlessness in all of this
And wada swines? Wada have probably just gone "oh fuck not that pathetic drug riddled joke of a comp again ... cant they just do the right thing already and tear it all down and rebuild so they dont have a culture of institutionalised drug supporting?"
FFS swines, get a grip mate, WADA's got better things to do than clean up one of the most unrecognised sports in the world.
It stinks out there in Western Sydney folks, to high bloody hell!
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