The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL

[TLPG]

In other words, you refuse to expand your horizons. Typical loser.

[King-Eliagh]

4 - 2. Thanks for the votes people, keep 'em coming in.

Did anyone see the fight after the Tigers Warriors match last night?

Fantastic finish to the game. I'm not sure whether Benji Marshall was initially trying to taunt them by running backwards over the dead ball line in the final seconds but he shouldnt have thrown the ball in the face of a warrior player after he ran over the dead ball line. Nice to see the amount of passion in the warriors to not let themselves go down like that. Imagine the amount of pent up anger and emotional distress the poor buggers would have now if they werent allowed to throw a few punches...

:D

I'm looking forward to the Dee's Collingwood match today, but unfortunately all I'll be likely to see in terms of passionate aggression will be nothing more than a very mild parody of a pair of teenage schoolgirls fighting on an oval. Amusing but not exciting...

[King-Eliagh]

AFFP. You are a phantom. Just an alias for Beaussie or TLPG. Keep typing your one liner shmack and giggling like a school girl but dont think you have me fooled.

You cant fool the King

[Onions]

King? Queen more like it because you're crying like a girl!

[King-Eliagh]

ouch! cough cough, nice come back

[King-Eliagh]

Dear oh dear oh me. Please take the time to read the thread folks and then read the link below. Afterwards consider the evidence and your own experience and vote in my poll. Something needs to be done about this and the AFL should take a long hard look at the lead the NRL takes on the punishment of unsportsmanlike violence.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6429497948

[TLPG]

IDIOT!

That rarely happens in the AFL. The NRL cracked down on it because it became common for awhile and even they recognised how dangerous it is! Using the tribunal as a guide is a mug's game. We don't need big suspensions to discourage this. The NRL does, and that tells a much more pertinent story.

The end.

[eelofwest]

Dear oh dear oh me. Please take the time to read the thread folks and then read the link below. Afterwards consider the evidence and your own experience and vote in my poll. Something needs to be done about this and the AFL should take a long hard look at the lead the NRL takes on the punishment of unsportsmanlike violence.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6429497948

Yes all this coming from a multiple Brownlow Medal winner..... he had AFL HQ tricked and they took it hook line a sinker. Now the real Judd is coming to the floor.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/07/20/ho ... hris-judd/ How evil is he......

But there was a certain manly integrity to those atrocities. They didn’t have the mean, nasty, treacherous, effeminate nature of Chris Judd and his special brand of savagery. For Judd, it seems, didn’t learn the lesson from his past lucky escapes, when he got off scot-free after tearing out Matthew Pavlich’s throat and throwing acid in Campbell Brown’s eyes.

The whole footballing world was shocked when Judd bent over the prone and helpless Leigh Adams, and in a deliberate, malicious, and probably racist manner, took his arm and violently wrenched it back behind him – the “chicken wing”, so named because its practitioners are so cowardly. Rumours that he then whispered into Adams’s ear, “Next time it’s coming all the way off” are unconfirmed, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

The chicken Wing tackle was outlawed in RL years ago because it is a dirty act.

Nathan Hindmarsh or Chris Judd...... Hindy any day of the week.

[pookus]

4 - 2. Thanks for the votes people, keep 'em coming in.

Did anyone see the fight after the Tigers Warriors match last night?

Fantastic finish to the game. I'm not sure whether Benji Marshall was initially trying to taunt them by running backwards over the dead ball line in the final seconds but he shouldnt have thrown the ball in the face of a warrior player after he ran over the dead ball line. Nice to see the amount of passion in the warriors to not let themselves go down like that. Imagine the amount of pent up anger and emotional distress the poor buggers would have now if they werent allowed to throw a few punches...

:D

I'm looking forward to the Dee's Collingwood match today, but unfortunately all I'll be likely to see in terms of passionate aggression will be nothing more than a very mild parody of a pair of teenage schoolgirls fighting on an oval. Amusing but not exciting...

Didn't a man just get killed but a league player throwing a passionate punch.This is why league is a culture to be despise.This sort of violence is abhorrent and should be discouraged at all levels of society.What message do you send young men when there heroes are praised for punching eachother out of frustration.I love hard sports but unexpected unprotected bare knuckled shots to the head are not good sport they are just acts thuggery and anyone who thinks this is some form of family entertainment is a moron.

[King-Eliagh]

99% of punches in league are expected. I'd argue a large percentage of the cheap shots going round in the AFL today are unexpected. This should be despised, its abhorrent and should be discouraged at all levels of society, however in the AFL it seems cheap shots are fairly ok. Bringing back the biff in the AFL will allow the men sort it out themselves and as a result cheap shots will be reduced. Judd should have had his noggin smashed and 8 weeks for dislocating another players injured shoulder...and he wouldve on a RL field. Instead on the AFL field he gets 'tackled' away from the man and receives 4 weeks. Woeful

[pookus]

99% of punches in league are expected. I'd argue a large percentage of the cheap shots going round in the AFL today are unexpected. This should be despised, its abhorrent and should be discouraged at all levels of society, however in the AFL it seems cheap shots are fairly ok. Bringing back the biff in the AFL will allow the men sort it out themselves and as a result cheap shots will be reduced. Judd should have had his noggin smashed and 8 weeks for dislocating another players injured shoulder...and he wouldve on a RL field. Instead on the AFL field he gets 'tackled' away from the man and receives 4 weeks. Woeful

You truly are a simple person.What happened to Price in the last origin did that please you.When he got carried off in front of his wife .This is entertainment.Go Reg.All punching to the head in all codes should be punished severely in the AFL it is.That is why you were making fun of them in this thread is it not. You truly are confused.No one ever got 8 weeks for a chicken wing in the game where it was invented and the fact you think judd should have got his head punched in just goes to show how thugby you are.Until society in general learns that problems can't be solved with punches then we will have more dead blokes down the pub.And there is none better to send this message than there football heroes.Unfortunately morons like yourself have another agenda

[King-Eliagh]

Ahh pricey. Now I think you'll find the player lifting him up while he was unconscious was in the wrong however I dont think he knew prices condition. Before that pricey was foolish enough to take on a younger stronger man. Lessons sometimes need to be dealt out the hard way pookus, i got not qualms with that because as i recall pricey started the kerfuffle. I'd much prefer what pricey got dealt than what judd dealt out last week...have had a dislocated shoulder before, its a serious long term injury. 4 weeks indeed!

Pookus you've clearly never played contact sports. I mean if a player decided it was a nice idea to dislocate your already strapped shoulder while you were being pinned to the ground by another player would you prefer

(a) be happy for no serious instant repercussions to take place and over the next few days for the judicial process to take its course and for him to receive a brief stint on the sidelines for his misdemeanour

(b) be happy for no serious instant repercussions to take place and for a fairer judicial process to be taken out over the following days and for him to receive 8 weeks on the sideline

or

(c) be happy to watch the replay as your teammates came in, belted the guy in the noggin a few times to teach him and all other players on the field and in the code an instant lesson that seriously foul play will and should be punished severely and instantly before, as you lie nursing your dislocated shoulder, enjoying watching the news as the ***** gets 8 weeks.

Me? I'd be picking (c) everytime :D Pick Rugby League on this one folks. They've got it right!

[pookus]

Ahh pricey. Now I think you'll find the player lifting him up while he was unconscious was in the wrong however I dont think he knew prices condition. Before that pricey was foolish enough to take on a younger stronger man. Lessons sometimes need to be dealt out the hard way pookus, i got not qualms with that because as i recall pricey started the kerfuffle. I'd much prefer what pricey got dealt than what judd dealt out last week...have had a dislocated shoulder before, its a serious long term injury. 4 weeks indeed!

Pookus you've clearly never played contact sports. I mean if a player decided it was a nice idea to dislocate your already strapped shoulder while you were being pinned to the ground by another player would you prefer

(a) be happy for no serious instant repercussions to take place and over the next few days for the judicial process to take its course and for him to receive a brief stint on the sidelines for his misdemeanour

(b) be happy for no serious instant repercussions to take place and for a fairer judicial process to be taken out over the following days and for him to receive 8 weeks on the

or

(c) be happy to watch the replay as your teammates came in, belted the guy in the noggin a few times to teach him and all other players on the field and in the code an instant lesson that seriously foul play will and should be punished severely and instantly before, as you lie nursing your dislocated shoulder, enjoying watching the news as the ***** gets 8 weeks.

Me? I'd be picking (c) everytime :D Pick Rugby League on this one folks. They've got it right!

Thanks mate your words speak louder than mine ever could.Thugby a culture to despise

[King-Eliagh]

The AFL - political correctness and the mollycoddling of players gone too far.

The AFLs silly laws on the odd fisticuffs have clearly done nothing to rid the sport of the most ugly violence.

The NRL - miles ahead in understanding that violence is innate and we are better off controlling and punishing unsportsmanlike behaviour rather than controlling players violent response to unsportsmanlike behaviour. :D

And our Pookus is a nothing but a puppet controlled by a clown.

[pookus]

The AFL - political correctness and the mollycoddling of players gone too far.

The AFLs silly laws on the odd fisticuffs have clearly done nothing to rid the sport of the most ugly violence.

The NRL - miles ahead in understanding that violence is innate and we are better off controlling and punishing unsportsmanlike behaviour rather than controlling players violent response to unsportsmanlike behaviour. :D

And our Pookus is a nothing but a puppet controlled by a clown.

And our King is an old man with an antiquated view.I will never condone unsportsmanlike like behaviour in any code and the full weight of the law should be thrown at them but to suggest that being able to punch someone will eradicate violence is like saying that owning a gun prevents gun crime. We all know the facts behind that kind of reasoning.I wonder how many women would agree with your view.