AFL vs NRL - the TV war

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:27 pm

AFL isn't shown on Pay TV on Friday night for a start. So the figures would be skewed anyway.

It doesn't need anything else. We still got a massive broadcast rights deal anyway, a bigger deal than the NRL could possibly get due to the lack of interest in it by the other FTA networks. Only Nine is interested. Whereas all three had and have an interest in the AFL.

Thugby is losing the war. The broadcast rights deal for the NRL will bear that out. It won't break the billion. It won't go near it. THAT will prove who's really winning.

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:53 pm

TLPG wrote:
AFL isn't shown on Pay TV on Friday night for a start. So the figures would be skewed anyway.

It doesn't need anything else. We still got a massive broadcast rights deal anyway, a bigger deal than the NRL could possibly get due to the lack of interest in it by the other FTA networks. Only Nine is interested. Whereas all three had and have an interest in the AFL.

Thugby is losing the war. The broadcast rights deal for the NRL will bear that out. It won't break the billion. It won't go near it. THAT will prove who's really winning.

ahhhh... you wanna bet ?

on main event live in NSW & QLD ... please check your facts before posting rubbish

its the NRL that isn't shown on pay TV on Fridays live
its shown at 11.30pm

the AFL gets walloped by the NRL on pay ... thanks for pointing out it is the best guage for ratings

also all FTA networks are interested in the NRL as it is the hottest sporting property on TV in this country
7 wants Origin .... 9 said just try & take it off us

10 wants MNF on FTA ... Fox have said ... like f--K you'll get that off us

theres a tidal wave building
lots of competitive pressure for this wonderful product .. this wonderful brand
a billion plus is assured
good times ahead indeed $:\:$

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:17 pm

In 2012 when Fox Sports has ALL AFL games live on the new channel - you are in for the shock of your life.

I was referring to nationwide on Friday night BTW, not local (ie NSW and QLD).

There is no evidence that Seven and Ten have expressed any interest in NRL. Ten's dumping OneHD as a 24 hour sports channel. If they had any interest in NRL after being left out of the latest AFL deal, they'd keep it and use it. But they aren't.

pussycat · Post by **pussycat** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:33 pm

TLPG wrote:
Raider your post just goes to show that when facts are thrown in front of you, all you can do is chuck a tantrum.

Enarelle, your figures are skewed and I'll tell you why. The NRL total attendance includes something that the AFL doesn't have - State of Origin. The only reason the AFL dropped it is because we don't have two equal states. We have three.

Nothing much has changed in three years. The AFL is still winning the war and it doesn't how any of you twist it - it remains fact.

You keep talking abot facts TLPG, but how about providing us with a few?

Here Are few undisputable ones~!

- The NRL are more popular On Pay TV providing around 70 of the leading 100 programs.

- The NR has more content on Television -
Extra rounds
Tests
Origin
Other rep matches

- The NRL strongholds, Sydney/Brisbane demand far more (3 or 4x) for there advertising space than the AFL Regions.

- The NRL strongholds Newcastle/Woolongong/Gold Coast demand about x2 as much for there advertising space.

So yes, the AFL future does look bleak

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:36 pm

TLPG wrote:
In 2012 when Fox Sports has ALL AFL games live on the new channel - you are in for the shock of your life.

I was referring to nationwide on Friday night BTW, not local (ie NSW and QLD).

There is no evidence that Seven and Ten have expressed any interest in NRL. Ten's dumping OneHD as a 24 hour sports channel. If they had any interest in NRL after being left out of the latest AFL deal, they'd keep it and use it. But they aren't.

the last time you said I had no evidence I walloped you to a pulp with it
wanna go down that road again ?
If I post something ... read it as gospel .. k

& I'll be shocked about all these wonderful AFL ratings on pay tv
when they actually happen
not just because you're praying they will [-o<

FOX will look like complete gooses if the AFL doesn't well & truely out do the NRL based on what they paid for the rights

at this point in time ... NRL ratings are 33% above AFL on pay .. so they've got some huge ground to make up
I think it will flop hugely & its you who will be gobbsmacked

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:41 pm

Gold Coast is NOT an NRL stronghold. It's 50/50. The strongest club financially down there is the Southport Sharks, an AFL club. That's a fact.

I'll start getting worried when thugby competitions start forming in Victoria, and not before. The AFL is strong, as the numbers I provided on the sticky thread prove. And it continues to grow.

In 2012 when competition in NSW is proper and full on both pay TV and FTA - the real battle will begin and the AFL will win. It's winning now, but the figures are skewed so we can't see it - yet.

pussycat · Post by **pussycat** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:51 pm

TLPG wrote:
In 2012 when Fox Sports has ALL AFL games live on the new channel - you are in for the shock of your life.

The AFL position will improve, dramatically. But what you fail to see is that your FTA figures will drop dramatically. But the large gap that appeared between our two codes on PTV will now be reflected on FTA television.

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:54 pm

No it will be the other way around, because FTA will be forced to place AFL up against NRL - and the AFL followers will come out of the woodwork in NSW.

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:01 pm

TLPG wrote:
No it will be the other way around, because FTA will be forced to place AFL up against NRL - and the AFL followers will come out of the woodwork in NSW.

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$:\:$

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:09 pm

Laugh it up, Raider. In 2012 it will be you apologising to me.

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:18 pm

TLPG wrote:
Laugh it up, Raider. In 2012 it will be you apologising to me.

apologising to you

me

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TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:27 pm

Yep.

Let's make this absolutely clear. NRL is not as popular in New South Wales as you lot think.

Case in point;
New South Wales population - 6,967,200 (2006)
Victorian population - 5,297,600 (2006)

Now let's compare club numbers across the states.
New South Wales RL clubs - 247
Victorian FL clubs - 699

Look at the difference in the number of clubs! Now if the NRL really did have a strong hold on New South Wales, based on population there should be over 700 RL clubs in New South Wales. But there isn't! Heck in Sydney alone there are only 20 senior clubs!

Add to that the fact that an RL team consists of 15 on field players (I think - correct me if I'm wrong). AFL has 18. Until recently there was only one RL referee. AFL has a minimum of two and has done since the late 1970's and more recently three. The numbers are speaking volumes.

In the end, viewing figures don't mean squat - especially on pay TV. Where's the advertising revenue in that? Ad revenue is better on FTA and all the networks know it. You lot are putting down attendance figures in this argument. It's relevant because it shows the true support for the game - and it's what clubs rely on for their very existence. Memberships in particular.

The NRL's failure to nail a billion dollar deal on broadcast rights will bear that out.

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:40 pm

TLPG wrote:
Yep.

Let's make this absolutely clear. NRL is not as popular in New South Wales as you lot think.

Case in point;
New South Wales population - 6,967,200 (2006)
Victorian population - 5,297,600 (2006)

Now let's compare club numbers across the states.
New South Wales RL clubs - 247
Victorian FL clubs - 699

Look at the difference in the number of clubs! Now if the NRL really did have a strong hold on New South Wales, based on population there should be over 700 RL clubs in New South Wales. But there isn't! Heck in Sydney alone there are only 20 senior clubs!

Add to that the fact that an RL team consists of 15 on field players (I think - correct me if I'm wrong). AFL has 18. Until recently there was only one RL referee. AFL has a minimum of two and has done since the late 1970's and more recently three. The numbers are speaking volumes.

In the end, viewing figures don't mean squat - especially on pay TV. Where's the advertising revenue in that? Ad revenue is better on FTA and all the networks know it. You lot are putting down attendance figures in this argument. It's relevant because it shows the true support for the game - and it's what clubs rely on for their very existence. Memberships in particular.

The NRL's failure to nail a billion dollar deal on broadcast rights will bear that out.

Im about to blow that ridiculous figure out of the water
there are about double that number of RL clubs in NSW for starters

stand by for the " real " number soon .... peanut !

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:41 pm

You'll have to prove it - and SENIOR clubs only!

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:51 pm

TLPG wrote:
You'll have to prove it - and SENIOR clubs only!

you've listed 9 senior " clubs " in all of Sydney you wombat

there are 9 Districts ... not clubs
all have up to 15 seniors clubs each .. some like Penrith & Parramatta have a lot more

easy to prove
will do so soon.....

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