In what way are the giants improving?

[leagueiscrap]

i believe they are making better steps than the raiders of the nrl are

Your dead right
Over 20 yrs in Canberra against little to no opposition have had premiership silver wear YET
LOWEST CROWDS
LOWEST MEMBERSHIP
LOWEST FOOTBALL RELATED REVENUE
On a steep downward spiral - and with only 5 wins season it is only 1 better than GWS!

yes sir

sorry sir


we didn't know who you were
your credentials speak for themselves





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what a fucking flea

Yep. 7000 today in Canberra what a pathetic loser club the Snot Green Braiders are!!!?
Lowest crowds
Lowest membership
Lowest football related revenue
Lowest National interest on TV
Yep the home of urine covered, dog rooting, trouser ale drinkers - piss em off!!!! A national embarrassment! Hahaha

yes sir

sorry sir


we didn't know who you were
your credentials speak for themselves





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what a fucking flea

yes they certainly are dribbledick dave
the raiders keep getting smaller and smaller,

[King-Eliagh]

Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

[Swans4ever]

Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

Look KE you obviously have a large axe to grind with GWS - did one of their players pot ur missus???? They only come into being 3 yrs ago, it's not like RL where a cheque book is taken out and toucan get anyone you want - there is a draft and we have a salary cap (because in RL that's only there for appearances - i.e. Bulldogs, Manly, Souths, Broncos, Titans, Bulldogs again). GWS have improved even if you don't like that fact FFS your like a 4 yr old 'oh they didn't improve even thou they won more games because there's more basket case teams now and I don't like them so nah!'
It really bellies the sometimes good points you make - so how about we talk about the Snot Greens instead - yeh know that's a club going down into a black hole - lowest membership, record low crowds (now worse than GWS) and the lowest interest nationally on TV - then there's all those favourite son's like Carney, Ferguson and Monaghan - like even you have to admit KE this is a club that's on the brink of destruction and it's been around for 20+ years and has won premierships - FFS it's dragging down the whole NRL - they should be pissed off!!

[Jackyboy]

Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

Look KE you obviously have a large axe to grind with GWS - did one of their players pot ur missus???? They only come into being 3 yrs ago, it's not like RL where a cheque book is taken out and toucan get anyone you want - there is a draft and we have a salary cap (because in RL that's only there for appearances - i.e. Bulldogs, Manly, Souths, Broncos, Titans, Bulldogs again). GWS have improved even if you don't like that fact FFS your like a 4 yr old 'oh they didn't improve even thou they won more games because there's more basket case teams now and I don't like them so nah!'
It really bellies the sometimes good points you make - so how about we talk about the Snot Greens instead - yeh know that's a club going down into a black hole - lowest membership, record low crowds (now worse than GWS) and the lowest interest nationally on TV - then there's all those favourite son's like Carney, Ferguson and Monaghan - like even you have to admit KE this is a club that's on the brink of destruction and it's been around for 20+ years and has won premierships - FFS it's dragging down the whole NRL - they should be pissed off!!

I've had it with this bull when you say "oh but they've only been around for 3 years) crap excuse. It really should only take half a year 1 year tops for a player to mature and get used to the nature of first grade. Take a look at WSW, they've been around for the same time and have made the grand final more then once, and they are a younger team then the giants when it comes to establishment. They're either can't play Aussie rules or it will take them 10 years competing to finally get off the bottom :') they have one successful AFL team in Sydney, adding another was a mistake

[Phelpsy]

I disagree jack. They could have gone and assembled a team that would taste instant success... That would have had some short term gain but poor long term. Look at the storm. The suns were lucky the roos didn't come as it hS meant the team has grown with the city ... People have a connexion now with them rather than some fly in team.

Kids take a while to develop in AFL. Other sports don't necessarily have the level of intricacy of AFL being a mixture of many sports that it is.

[Jackyboy]

I disagree jack. They could have gone and assembled a team that would taste instant success... That would have had some short term gain but poor long term. Look at the storm. The suns were lucky the roos didn't come as it hS meant the team has grown with the city ... People have a connexion now with them rather than some fly in team.

Kids take a while to develop in AFL. Other sports don't necessarily have the level of intricacy of AFL being a mixture of many sports that it is.

Well if they had the money for franklin, surely they can buy someone of the same calibre to add to their roster for short term success?

[Swans4ever]

Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

Look KE you obviously have a large axe to grind with GWS - did one of their players pot ur missus???? They only come into being 3 yrs ago, it's not like RL where a cheque book is taken out and toucan get anyone you want - there is a draft and we have a salary cap (because in RL that's only there for appearances - i.e. Bulldogs, Manly, Souths, Broncos, Titans, Bulldogs again). GWS have improved even if you don't like that fact FFS your like a 4 yr old 'oh they didn't improve even thou they won more games because there's more basket case teams now and I don't like them so nah!'
It really bellies the sometimes good points you make - so how about we talk about the Snot Greens instead - yeh know that's a club going down into a black hole - lowest membership, record low crowds (now worse than GWS) and the lowest interest nationally on TV - then there's all those favourite son's like Carney, Ferguson and Monaghan - like even you have to admit KE this is a club that's on the brink of destruction and it's been around for 20+ years and has won premierships - FFS it's dragging down the whole NRL - they should be pissed off!!

I've had it with this bull when you say "oh but they've only been around for 3 years) crap excuse. It really should only take half a year 1 year tops for a player to mature and get used to the nature of first grade. Take a look at WSW, they've been around for the same time and have made the grand final more then once, and they are a younger team then the giants when it comes to establishment. They're either can't play Aussie rules or it will take them 10 years competing to finally get off the bottom :') they have one successful AFL team in Sydney, adding another was a mistake

You obviously know nothing about professional team sport slackyboy - no matter what the sport there is a large amount of luck - even more so in AFL - in A league you can go out and get established players OS (both Australians and marque players) because the A league is about the 100th soccer league in terms of money and pretiege in world soccer terms (and that's not a criticism just an objective fact) the amount of players to choose from is enormous - same player would not be A grade in Germany or EPL but here in the A League they are better than the local product. Next there is only 11 players on the field for a soccer team - therefore a roster of 20 good players is a lot easier than 42. Lastly there is not debate Western Sydney has a large soccer following population having packed stadiums and the atmosphere it generates is productive towards players playing better the ol 12th man helps a lot. GWS had a roster of 42 players only 7 of which had played at AFL standard - that means 35 were untried kids playing in a new environment and at times a hostile attitude from those like you - but they have improved and it is well recognised in AFL because you don't run in lines opposed to each other (soccer to a lesser degree than the rugbys) it takes at least 50 games to fully understand the pattern of play not for just yourself but also your opponent. So although you didn't mean too your statement was a bit ignorant.

[Jackyboy]

Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

Look KE you obviously have a large axe to grind with GWS - did one of their players pot ur missus???? They only come into being 3 yrs ago, it's not like RL where a cheque book is taken out and toucan get anyone you want - there is a draft and we have a salary cap (because in RL that's only there for appearances - i.e. Bulldogs, Manly, Souths, Broncos, Titans, Bulldogs again). GWS have improved even if you don't like that fact FFS your like a 4 yr old 'oh they didn't improve even thou they won more games because there's more basket case teams now and I don't like them so nah!'
It really bellies the sometimes good points you make - so how about we talk about the Snot Greens instead - yeh know that's a club going down into a black hole - lowest membership, record low crowds (now worse than GWS) and the lowest interest nationally on TV - then there's all those favourite son's like Carney, Ferguson and Monaghan - like even you have to admit KE this is a club that's on the brink of destruction and it's been around for 20+ years and has won premierships - FFS it's dragging down the whole NRL - they should be pissed off!!

I've had it with this bull when you say "oh but they've only been around for 3 years) crap excuse. It really should only take half a year 1 year tops for a player to mature and get used to the nature of first grade. Take a look at WSW, they've been around for the same time and have made the grand final more then once, and they are a younger team then the giants when it comes to establishment. They're either can't play Aussie rules or it will take them 10 years competing to finally get off the bottom :') they have one successful AFL team in Sydney, adding another was a mistake

You obviously know nothing about professional team sport slackyboy - no matter what the sport there is a large amount of luck - even more so in AFL - in A league you can go out and get established players OS (both Australians and marque players) because the A league is about the 100th soccer league in terms of money and pretiege in world soccer terms (and that's not a criticism just an objective fact) the amount of players to choose from is enormous - same player would not be A grade in Germany or EPL but here in the A League they are better than the local product. Next there is only 11 players on the field for a soccer team - therefore a roster of 20 good players is a lot easier than 42. Lastly there is not debate Western Sydney has a large soccer following population having packed stadiums and the atmosphere it generates is productive towards players playing better the ol 12th man helps a lot. GWS had a roster of 42 players only 7 of which had played at AFL standard - that means 35 were untried kids playing in a new environment and at times a hostile attitude from those like you - but they have improved and it is well recognised in AFL because you don't run in lines opposed to each other (soccer to a lesser degree than the rugbys) it takes at least 50 games to fully understand the pattern of play not for just yourself but also your opponent. So although you didn't mean too your statement was a bit ignorant.

I don't mean to be hostile, it just annoys me when they say GWS are improving when they have shown little, but nothing to brag about improvement. I remember earlier on this season after they beat Sydney they would be a contender for the playoffs, those talks disappeared. If what you say is right, I ecpect them to be mid table next year.

[Swans4ever]

Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

Look KE you obviously have a large axe to grind with GWS - did one of their players pot ur missus???? They only come into being 3 yrs ago, it's not like RL where a cheque book is taken out and toucan get anyone you want - there is a draft and we have a salary cap (because in RL that's only there for appearances - i.e. Bulldogs, Manly, Souths, Broncos, Titans, Bulldogs again). GWS have improved even if you don't like that fact FFS your like a 4 yr old 'oh they didn't improve even thou they won more games because there's more basket case teams now and I don't like them so nah!'
It really bellies the sometimes good points you make - so how about we talk about the Snot Greens instead - yeh know that's a club going down into a black hole - lowest membership, record low crowds (now worse than GWS) and the lowest interest nationally on TV - then there's all those favourite son's like Carney, Ferguson and Monaghan - like even you have to admit KE this is a club that's on the brink of destruction and it's been around for 20+ years and has won premierships - FFS it's dragging down the whole NRL - they should be pissed off!!

I've had it with this bull when you say "oh but they've only been around for 3 years) crap excuse. It really should only take half a year 1 year tops for a player to mature and get used to the nature of first grade. Take a look at WSW, they've been around for the same time and have made the grand final more then once, and they are a younger team then the giants when it comes to establishment. They're either can't play Aussie rules or it will take them 10 years competing to finally get off the bottom :') they have one successful AFL team in Sydney, adding another was a mistake

You obviously know nothing about professional team sport slackyboy - no matter what the sport there is a large amount of luck - even more so in AFL - in A league you can go out and get established players OS (both Australians and marque players) because the A league is about the 100th soccer league in terms of money and pretiege in world soccer terms (and that's not a criticism just an objective fact) the amount of players to choose from is enormous - same player would not be A grade in Germany or EPL but here in the A League they are better than the local product. Next there is only 11 players on the field for a soccer team - therefore a roster of 20 good players is a lot easier than 42. Lastly there is not debate Western Sydney has a large soccer following population having packed stadiums and the atmosphere it generates is productive towards players playing better the ol 12th man helps a lot. GWS had a roster of 42 players only 7 of which had played at AFL standard - that means 35 were untried kids playing in a new environment and at times a hostile attitude from those like you - but they have improved and it is well recognised in AFL because you don't run in lines opposed to each other (soccer to a lesser degree than the rugbys) it takes at least 50 games to fully understand the pattern of play not for just yourself but also your opponent. So although you didn't mean too your statement was a bit ignorant.

I don't mean to be hostile, it just annoys me when they say GWS are improving when they have shown little, but nothing to brag about improvement. I remember earlier on this season after they beat Sydney they would be a contender for the playoffs, those talks disappeared. If what you say is right, I ecpect them to be mid table next year.

I think people are too quick to Judge IMO - Penrith took years to win a premiership as did Paramatta, Cronulla have yet to win one as too the Nth Qld Cowboys, St.Kilda, Western bulldogs, Freo - judging them in today's instant results is unfair - just because WSW are successful doesn't mean other clubs aren't on the right track or are taking longer - Perth HAL, Newcastle HAL, WSW HAL, Melb Heart/City, Wellington HAL all teams that haven't won a title but your not bagging them - just admit it you don't like AFL so GWS is a concurrent whipping boy for your dislike!!!!

[Jackyboy]

Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

Look KE you obviously have a large axe to grind with GWS - did one of their players pot ur missus???? They only come into being 3 yrs ago, it's not like RL where a cheque book is taken out and toucan get anyone you want - there is a draft and we have a salary cap (because in RL that's only there for appearances - i.e. Bulldogs, Manly, Souths, Broncos, Titans, Bulldogs again). GWS have improved even if you don't like that fact FFS your like a 4 yr old 'oh they didn't improve even thou they won more games because there's more basket case teams now and I don't like them so nah!'
It really bellies the sometimes good points you make - so how about we talk about the Snot Greens instead - yeh know that's a club going down into a black hole - lowest membership, record low crowds (now worse than GWS) and the lowest interest nationally on TV - then there's all those favourite son's like Carney, Ferguson and Monaghan - like even you have to admit KE this is a club that's on the brink of destruction and it's been around for 20+ years and has won premierships - FFS it's dragging down the whole NRL - they should be pissed off!!

I've had it with this bull when you say "oh but they've only been around for 3 years) crap excuse. It really should only take half a year 1 year tops for a player to mature and get used to the nature of first grade. Take a look at WSW, they've been around for the same time and have made the grand final more then once, and they are a younger team then the giants when it comes to establishment. They're either can't play Aussie rules or it will take them 10 years competing to finally get off the bottom :') they have one successful AFL team in Sydney, adding another was a mistake

You obviously know nothing about professional team sport slackyboy - no matter what the sport there is a large amount of luck - even more so in AFL - in A league you can go out and get established players OS (both Australians and marque players) because the A league is about the 100th soccer league in terms of money and pretiege in world soccer terms (and that's not a criticism just an objective fact) the amount of players to choose from is enormous - same player would not be A grade in Germany or EPL but here in the A League they are better than the local product. Next there is only 11 players on the field for a soccer team - therefore a roster of 20 good players is a lot easier than 42. Lastly there is not debate Western Sydney has a large soccer following population having packed stadiums and the atmosphere it generates is productive towards players playing better the ol 12th man helps a lot. GWS had a roster of 42 players only 7 of which had played at AFL standard - that means 35 were untried kids playing in a new environment and at times a hostile attitude from those like you - but they have improved and it is well recognised in AFL because you don't run in lines opposed to each other (soccer to a lesser degree than the rugbys) it takes at least 50 games to fully understand the pattern of play not for just yourself but also your opponent. So although you didn't mean too your statement was a bit ignorant.

I don't mean to be hostile, it just annoys me when they say GWS are improving when they have shown little, but nothing to brag about improvement. I remember earlier on this season after they beat Sydney they would be a contender for the playoffs, those talks disappeared. If what you say is right, I ecpect them to be mid table next year.

I think people are too quick to Judge IMO - Penrith took years to win a premiership as did Paramatta, Cronulla have yet to win one as too the Nth Qld Cowboys, St.Kilda, Western bulldogs, Freo - judging them in today's instant results is unfair - just because WSW are successful doesn't mean other clubs aren't on the right track or are taking longer - Perth HAL, Newcastle HAL, WSW HAL, Melb Heart/City, Wellington HAL all teams that haven't won a title but your not bagging them - just admit it you don't like AFL so GWS is a concurrent whipping boy for your dislike!!!!

I acutally don't mind; I played it from time to time, don't mind it in the background if nothing else is on telly, but when people dog my main code that's when I get devensive.

[Swans4ever]

Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

Look KE you obviously have a large axe to grind with GWS - did one of their players pot ur missus???? They only come into being 3 yrs ago, it's not like RL where a cheque book is taken out and toucan get anyone you want - there is a draft and we have a salary cap (because in RL that's only there for appearances - i.e. Bulldogs, Manly, Souths, Broncos, Titans, Bulldogs again). GWS have improved even if you don't like that fact FFS your like a 4 yr old 'oh they didn't improve even thou they won more games because there's more basket case teams now and I don't like them so nah!'
It really bellies the sometimes good points you make - so how about we talk about the Snot Greens instead - yeh know that's a club going down into a black hole - lowest membership, record low crowds (now worse than GWS) and the lowest interest nationally on TV - then there's all those favourite son's like Carney, Ferguson and Monaghan - like even you have to admit KE this is a club that's on the brink of destruction and it's been around for 20+ years and has won premierships - FFS it's dragging down the whole NRL - they should be pissed off!!

I've had it with this bull when you say "oh but they've only been around for 3 years) crap excuse. It really should only take half a year 1 year tops for a player to mature and get used to the nature of first grade. Take a look at WSW, they've been around for the same time and have made the grand final more then once, and they are a younger team then the giants when it comes to establishment. They're either can't play Aussie rules or it will take them 10 years competing to finally get off the bottom :') they have one successful AFL team in Sydney, adding another was a mistake

You obviously know nothing about professional team sport slackyboy - no matter what the sport there is a large amount of luck - even more so in AFL - in A league you can go out and get established players OS (both Australians and marque players) because the A league is about the 100th soccer league in terms of money and pretiege in world soccer terms (and that's not a criticism just an objective fact) the amount of players to choose from is enormous - same player would not be A grade in Germany or EPL but here in the A League they are better than the local product. Next there is only 11 players on the field for a soccer team - therefore a roster of 20 good players is a lot easier than 42. Lastly there is not debate Western Sydney has a large soccer following population having packed stadiums and the atmosphere it generates is productive towards players playing better the ol 12th man helps a lot. GWS had a roster of 42 players only 7 of which had played at AFL standard - that means 35 were untried kids playing in a new environment and at times a hostile attitude from those like you - but they have improved and it is well recognised in AFL because you don't run in lines opposed to each other (soccer to a lesser degree than the rugbys) it takes at least 50 games to fully understand the pattern of play not for just yourself but also your opponent. So although you didn't mean too your statement was a bit ignorant.

I don't mean to be hostile, it just annoys me when they say GWS are improving when they have shown little, but nothing to brag about improvement. I remember earlier on this season after they beat Sydney they would be a contender for the playoffs, those talks disappeared. If what you say is right, I ecpect them to be mid table next year.

I think people are too quick to Judge IMO - Penrith took years to win a premiership as did Paramatta, Cronulla have yet to win one as too the Nth Qld Cowboys, St.Kilda, Western bulldogs, Freo - judging them in today's instant results is unfair - just because WSW are successful doesn't mean other clubs aren't on the right track or are taking longer - Perth HAL, Newcastle HAL, WSW HAL, Melb Heart/City, Wellington HAL all teams that haven't won a title but your not bagging them - just admit it you don't like AFL so GWS is a concurrent whipping boy for your dislike!!!!

I acutally don't mind; I played it from time to time, don't mind it in the background if nothing else is on telly, but when people dog my main code that's when I get devensive.

Jackyboy if you talk seriously I will - if you go down the RD, KE or Crapper path than I will respond in kind. Like I have said many times what I say or think should not affect your love of RL AND just because you love a code of football doesn't mean you can't appreciate or enjoy another code. For me AFL is superior in all aspects for you it is RL. On a serious note will Perth be a franchise soon??

[ParraEelsNRL]

3 years in and they haven't managed to rise off bottom position. This in a league where we have unanimous agreement that the skills are of a low standard and in a comp with 5 teams who couldn't win the wafl. This is nothing more than pityful

They took a different path to the Suns in that they recruited mainly youth, and few established stars. Theyll come good when their youth matures. As for skills, when did we ever agree on that?

Maybe they need more "Assistance" (legalised cheating thanks to AFL house) like the Thwans.


I just love debating with the brainwashed fumblefans .
Logic is not in the equation.

They get the cola you dumb fuck. So much for debating with the logic starved

So they already get "The legalised cheating help"
& you see nothing wrong with that.
You have no problem with a compromised comp where there is NO LEVEL PLAYING FIELD?.

Seriously what fucking planet are you fumblers on?

There is no level playing field because 95% of their playing list come from interstate and a proportion of them will at some stage will be drawn back to their home state. Add to that they wont be able to recruit under the father son agreement for another 20 odd years. They need assistance to setup their club. If not they will be noncompetitive for over a decade

but but but but but, we are all told this game is a national game yet 4 teams need to ship players in from the heartland states to keep these teams afloat and have the hide to give them a living away allowance, what are they, fucking children or pro sportsmen?

Haha, you fumblefans really did bite the big one when sports were handed out.

[ParraEelsNRL]

Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

Look KE you obviously have a large axe to grind with GWS - did one of their players pot ur missus???? They only come into being 3 yrs ago, it's not like RL where a cheque book is taken out and toucan get anyone you want - there is a draft and we have a salary cap (because in RL that's only there for appearances - i.e. Bulldogs, Manly, Souths, Broncos, Titans, Bulldogs again). GWS have improved even if you don't like that fact FFS your like a 4 yr old 'oh they didn't improve even thou they won more games because there's more basket case teams now and I don't like them so nah!'
It really bellies the sometimes good points you make - so how about we talk about the Snot Greens instead - yeh know that's a club going down into a black hole - lowest membership, record low crowds (now worse than GWS) and the lowest interest nationally on TV - then there's all those favourite son's like Carney, Ferguson and Monaghan - like even you have to admit KE this is a club that's on the brink of destruction and it's been around for 20+ years and has won premierships - FFS it's dragging down the whole NRL - they should be pissed off!!

Ha, this team and everything to do with it is shit, from bad mouthing before a ball was fisted with idiot coaches to going out of the way to antaginate RL fans, and then by pinching two players.

You are a dickhead that can only see what the AFL wants you to see, you're a bloody cultist.

[Swans4ever]

3 years in and they haven't managed to rise off bottom position. This in a league where we have unanimous agreement that the skills are of a low standard and in a comp with 5 teams who couldn't win the wafl. This is nothing more than pityful

They took a different path to the Suns in that they recruited mainly youth, and few established stars. Theyll come good when their youth matures. As for skills, when did we ever agree on that?

Maybe they need more "Assistance" (legalised cheating thanks to AFL house) like the Thwans.


I just love debating with the brainwashed fumblefans .
Logic is not in the equation.

They get the cola you dumb fuck. So much for debating with the logic starved

So they already get "The legalised cheating help"
& you see nothing wrong with that.
You have no problem with a compromised comp where there is NO LEVEL PLAYING FIELD?.

Seriously what fucking planet are you fumblers on?

There is no level playing field because 95% of their playing list come from interstate and a proportion of them will at some stage will be drawn back to their home state. Add to that they wont be able to recruit under the father son agreement for another 20 odd years. They need assistance to setup their club. If not they will be noncompetitive for over a decade

but but but but but, we are all told this game is a national game yet 4 teams need to ship players in from the heartland states to keep these teams afloat and have the hide to give them a living away allowance, what are they, fucking children or pro sportsmen?

Haha, you fumblefans really did bite the big one when sports were handed out.

See paralytic this is why I have a crack at you - you have absolutely no understanding of AF yet you lecture AF on how the game should be played or run. If the AFL is doing so bad how come the NRL follow everything they do???? If RL come up with an original thought we'd all be flabbergasted! AFL has SOO - RL gets SOO, AFL expans - RL expans, AFL gets a commission - RL gets a commission, AFL gets a salary cap - RL gets a salary cap.
And how about Melb Storm and their roster what only ONE Victorian on it?????? And when will the NRL expand to WA and SA???? Is there gunna be any WA or SA players on their rosters???
Well the AFL has 50 players from NSW and around the same from QLD that's a lot more than is represented in the NRL from WA, SA and Vic! As for living away from home allowance how the fuck does that affect you and RL??? I think it's pretty fucking ridiculous to have players announce they are going to leave mid way thru a season, or have a salary cap but no draft, or a World Cup with qualification rules so loose you can just about play for any country you like , or a SOO series where you can pick the state you want to play for!!!!!!!

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Sure gws have a few more wins but teams can get lucky and the title of this thread remains a valid question to be asked. IMO they really fluked it against the swans who were asleep in round 1. Then you got stkilda, melbs and brissie all showing us how shit a club can be in this day and age, which makes it easy for gws to look ok. If they manage to finish last in this years comp/bbl they're as shit as ever, even with, no particularly with a massive influx of new players!!!

Look KE you obviously have a large axe to grind with GWS - did one of their players pot ur missus???? They only come into being 3 yrs ago, it's not like RL where a cheque book is taken out and toucan get anyone you want - there is a draft and we have a salary cap (because in RL that's only there for appearances - i.e. Bulldogs, Manly, Souths, Broncos, Titans, Bulldogs again). GWS have improved even if you don't like that fact FFS your like a 4 yr old 'oh they didn't improve even thou they won more games because there's more basket case teams now and I don't like them so nah!'
It really bellies the sometimes good points you make - so how about we talk about the Snot Greens instead - yeh know that's a club going down into a black hole - lowest membership, record low crowds (now worse than GWS) and the lowest interest nationally on TV - then there's all those favourite son's like Carney, Ferguson and Monaghan - like even you have to admit KE this is a club that's on the brink of destruction and it's been around for 20+ years and has won premierships - FFS it's dragging down the whole NRL - they should be pissed off!!

Ha, this team and everything to do with it is shit, from bad mouthing before a ball was fisted with idiot coaches to going out of the way to antaginate RL fans, and then by pinching two players.

You are a dickhead that can only see what the AFL wants you to see, you're a bloody cultist.

What RL doesn't pinch players from RU?? What RL doesn't have out spoken people in it?? Or better still RL has never tried to antagonise AF fans???? You need to stop drinking paralytic - FFS your a whinger - toughen up princess if you haven't worked it out now football is a business - it's not me continually slinging shit at RL to make myself feel better like you are doing right now - what I should just see things the way you and every RL fan see things?????? Nothing you say will make me think AF is bad - there are issues with how it's played at the moment but these issues sort them selfs out - you on the other hand are like EVERY other RL fan told by NRL HQ that AF is the enemy so you trot out the EXACT same lies as they tell you, AF has been in Wastern Sydney for over a 100 years, they started a club there, people are invited to go watch the game there no one is made to go there just like the Melb Storm!!!! And by the way when the Perth reds came in to the then ARL they signed up an AFL player so maybe your the one being a bit of an over sensitive cultist!!!!