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n Saturday, around lunchtime, player agent Andrew Purcell asked me on Twitter "when did your shit stop stinking?".
The query was, as the late league journalist Peter Frilingos used to say, "apropos of nothing". In fact, my most recent posts had been a series of admissions about how bad I am at writing live match reports.
Of course, his choice of words would prove prescient, even if he confused his number ones with his number twos. The toilet was where the attention of rugby league would be focused by later that night.
John Hopoate squares up with Nathan Fien during the infamous match in Townsville in 2001.
John Hopoate squares up with Nathan Fien during the infamous match in Townsville in 2001. Photo: Getty Images
I have got no problem with Purcell, or anyone else, having a shot at me on social media. What I want to discuss is the sentiment inherent in his tweet: that we have all got something to hide, so none of us should highlight or condemn the actions of someone else.
My excrement certainly does still stink. I have and do perform acts which are drunken, stupid, sometimes even illicit and illegal. But it has never occurred to me to deposit that excrement in a shoe. I have never thought of simulating a sex act with an animal for a photo. The idea of imitating a drinking fountain, substituting my own urine for water, has not entered my head.
This is the bit where I am supposed to say, and have so many times before, that most NRL players are good role models and don't engage in anti-social behaviour.
Joel Monaghan left the NRL after an incident with a dog.
Joel Monaghan left the NRL after an incident with a dog. Photo: John Shakespeare
But bugger that.
Rather than try to reassure outsiders that rugby league is not as feral as it seems, right now it's more important to tell the delusional insiders reading this ... how feral it seems.
Firstly, there are the matters that go before the courts every two or three weeks: assault, domestic abuse, etc. Then there are acts that most people would not even conceive of unless they heard of a footballer doing them.
If you live in most parts of the world where they have heard of rugby but don't know there are two varieties, the last time you heard of the NRL was when a talk show mentioned John Hopoate poking someone's bum, or Joel Monaghan posing with a dog. "So this guy who drinks his own urine is from the same rugby competition as those guys? Holy Hell. It's a menagerie down there."
Rugby league's popularity in NSW and Queensland ferments ignorance. Players have no concept of the extent to which many, many people in this country look down on them as "meatheads" playing a "low-rent" sport. You think you are stars but to a large part of Australian society, you are lamentable outcasts.
How do you think it would feel to be an unpaid development officer in Hobart, running on chook raffles and borrowed goalpost pads, when the only time you make the local press is when an NRL player defecates in a hallway? This is the sport you are devoting all your spare time to? These guys are on a fortune and you're being paid nothing?
A former Cronulla chief executive, Damian Irvine, is right: we are expected to laugh at Paul Gallen knocking out Beau Ryan on Mad Monday when in fact it is appalling.
I am fond of saying player behaviour has improved 200 per cent over the past 15 years. But perhaps it has only improved 100 per cent, with the other 100 going underground, hidden beneath cliched soundbites and spin. Pull up the carpet and there is still malevolence.
The rebellious response to Carney's sacking from Sharks players represents a tipping point for the game's culture in this country. It's not just a clash of cultures, it's a war of ideologies.
On one side, there is an eternal boys club, an Orwellian Animal Farm that has arisen as a result of a male-only workplace, too much money, too much time and countless troubled childhoods.
This group wants the media blamed for reporting what they do (even when not a single paper was printed between the Carney picture emerging and his sacking), they want punching and shoulder charges reinstated, they think spewing and shitting and pissing are funny.
On the other is a governing body run by a former corporate banker trying to figure out why twice as many Australian women say they have been to an AFL game as to a rugby league match, and why rugby union still gets blue-chip sponsors despite all other indicators of its health indicating imminent cardiac arrest.
The reason is in a picture circulated on Twitter on Saturday night.
I say let the first knuckle-dragging group go, let them form their own competition with their own fans (including you, who is already seething about this column), sponsorship and media. Punt them – or they'll drag us down with them.
The romantic, historical view of rugby league is that it represented a social upheaval at the end of the industrial revolution; it empowered working-class people whose talents were being exploited for the profit of the elite running rugby union.
But I am beginning to think that is romantic nonsense. I am beginning to think it was just a grab for cash by people who had no other means to make some, and that is all it means to those people more than a century later.
Prove me wrong, David Smith.
After 119 years of wallowing in its own – yes Andrew, stinking – slime, the game is now at a point where it can either finally escape, or stay there forever.


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Rugby League isn't working class it's meat head class!!!!!!
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AFL isn't working class it's the druggo class!!!!!!


http://www.AFL.com.au/news/2014-07-03/a ... layers-out
THREE AFL players have retired due to drug addiction and it has also been revealed other players were temporarily withdrawn from play while being treated for drug use.

The revelations are contained in a presentation the AFL's medical director Dr Peter Harcourt made last year, which came to light as part of Essendon and James Hird's Federal Court action against ASADA.

Dr Harcourt made the statements at a FIFA anti-doping sports conference in Zurich when informing the audience about the AFL's Illicit Drug Policy in a presentation titled The AFL's alternative approach to managing illicit drug use.

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Upper class drugs lol in the AFL ... Bogan drugs in the nrl .... Oh boy
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Fred wrote:
Upper class drugs lol in the AFL ... Bogan drugs in the nrl .... Oh boy
Or the bubbler class!!! Hahaha!
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AFLcrap1 wrote:
AFL isn't working class it's the druggo class!!!!!!


http://www.AFL.com.au/news/2014-07-03/a ... layers-out
THREE AFL players have retired due to drug addiction and it has also been revealed other players were temporarily withdrawn from play while being treated for drug use.

The revelations are contained in a presentation the AFL's medical director Dr Peter Harcourt made last year, which came to light as part of Essendon and James Hird's Federal Court action against ASADA.

Dr Harcourt made the statements at a FIFA anti-doping sports conference in Zurich when informing the audience about the AFL's Illicit Drug Policy in a presentation titled The AFL's alternative approach to managing illicit drug use.

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The AFL players smoke their pipes one way while the NRL players have their own style. ;)

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:_<> He's a little less hairy than your average NRL player Piesman but it's definitely Carney! Hahaha :_<> :shock:
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AFLcrap1 wrote:
AFL isn't working class it's the druggo class!!!!!!


http://www.AFL.com.au/news/2014-07-03/a ... layers-out
THREE AFL players have retired due to drug addiction and it has also been revealed other players were temporarily withdrawn from play while being treated for drug use.

The revelations are contained in a presentation the AFL's medical director Dr Peter Harcourt made last year, which came to light as part of Essendon and James Hird's Federal Court action against ASADA.

Dr Harcourt made the statements at a FIFA anti-doping sports conference in Zurich when informing the audience about the AFL's Illicit Drug Policy in a presentation titled The AFL's alternative approach to managing illicit drug use.

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so you gonna address the actual article or carry on with your own deflection dribble
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I was just watching the news and this story comes up.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/kieran-loveri ... zsvk2.html

Now this guy was going around the streets of king cross randomly hitting blokes in the back of the head. He ended up killing one of his victims and then lied to police. I did a little research on this guy because I was shocked with how light the guy got off. What I learnt was that when the police arrested this guy the next day you would never guess where they piked him up. He was at a coaching clinic being held by the Canterbury Bulldogs.
Now this is probably old news to the RL supporters on this site. But wow thats just crazy. One night he is punching blokes on the streets and the next he is hanging out with his role models who do the same on the field. Just another reason why the image of RL isn't great. Now I'm not knocking the sport which is good in a lot of ways, just the attitude that its cool to punch blokes because you feel like it.
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I think the question here is image isn't it. Yes of course there are idiots in the AFL... Although I think there is only one Todd carney. I think what the article is saying is the nrl has this poor image and need to manage this better. How do the AFL manage there's so well. For me it's a reflection of the administration.... Like any good consign the AFL managed their corporate image very well as recognises the value of the corporate image ... The nrl had not done this well at all. Knowing when to come down hard and knowing when to go quiet and let it slip away. I think this is probably a reflection of the overall professionalism of each organisation and how it is run. I think the nrl has lifted its game in the past few years though. Look at violence on the field. Whilst violence will always appeal to a certain mindset, your likely uneducated fan who is probably the same person who thinks it's okay to racially abuse people at the footy or talks of using physical aggression as a reasonable means of sorting disputes and anything less is "girly" ... Or in fact that being "girly" or "gay" is somehow inferior or an insult, the AFL worked hard to stamp this out recognising that this was a limited market ... The nrl have only recently followed suit and we hear regularly complaints that the game has become soft and that origin was boring as no fights. One can not help think that the demographic of the nrl supporter falls largely into this uneducated backward bogan cohort ... With the more intellectual in the traditional rugby states possibly leaning to union for their code of choice. So indeed it is a perception maybe but one seemed fuelled and applauded in many areas of the nrl community.
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That'd right Piesman they have a big problem with on field violence which is filtering down to the junior ranks, they really have created a rod for their own back by treating violence as an acceptable part of the game. Saw a classic match from 80's - the players were average builds not like they just come from a Mr Universe contest - it was a lot faster and wasn't as many fights! Seems they have gone down this path of bulking up which has slowed down the game and promoted violence!
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the NRL has awareness of the issues it faces & has no issue sacking players who do not meet its high standards of behaviour & responsibility
our codes Integrity is paramount

the VFL on the other hand
does next to nothing about its .... gestures as sufficient for this joke of a sport
Racism
phhhhhtttt.. put on a round where we pretend we care

Sexism
phhhhtttttt.... put on a round where we pretend we care

Drugs
phhhhtttttt..... put the worlds most ridiculous policy in place & pretend we care

lets face it
our fans are brain washed gimps ..... the above will appease them as most of them have their heads up their arses like this bloke below
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piesman2011 wrote:
I was just watching the news and this story comes up.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/kieran-loveri ... zsvk2.html

Now this guy was going around the streets of king cross randomly hitting blokes in the back of the head. He ended up killing one of his victims and then lied to police. I did a little research on this guy because I was shocked with how light the guy got off. What I learnt was that when the police arrested this guy the next day you would never guess where they piked him up. He was at a coaching clinic being held by the Canterbury Bulldogs.
Now this is probably old news to the RL supporters on this site. But wow thats just crazy. One night he is punching blokes on the streets and the next he is hanging out with his role models who do the same on the field. Just another reason why the image of RL isn't great. Now I'm not knocking the sport which is good in a lot of ways, just the attitude that its cool to punch blokes because you feel like it.
are you fucking Kidding ? :?>

so .... some little weedy ladyboy in spazbourne shoots up & kills himself .......the day before he attended an Essenneedle coaching clinic
where they showed him how to derp & miss
is that a reflection on the VFL

are the VFL responsible for all over dose related deaths among teenagers in Victardia & the other sthn states
as no doubt a lot of them would watch that bumbling mess & follow teams where players are involved with drugs ?

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Raiderdave wrote:
the NRL has awareness of the issues it faces & has no issue sacking players who do not meet its high standards of behaviour & responsibility
our codes Integrity is paramount

the VFL on the other hand
does next to nothing about its .... gestures as sufficient for this joke of a sport
Racism
phhhhhtttt.. put on a round where we pretend we care

Sexism
phhhhtttttt.... put on a round where we pretend we care

Drugs
phhhhtttttt..... put the worlds most ridiculous policy in place & pretend we care

lets face it
our fans are brain washed gimps ..... the above will appease them as most of them have their heads up their arses like this bloke below
VFL
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Back on topic RD. This is about the NRL. There are plenty of threads about the AFL. Less deflection and more focusing on the topic please.
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piesman2011 wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
the NRL has awareness of the issues it faces & has no issue sacking players who do not meet its high standards of behaviour & responsibility
our codes Integrity is paramount

the VFL on the other hand
does next to nothing about its .... gestures as sufficient for this joke of a sport
Racism
phhhhhtttt.. put on a round where we pretend we care

Sexism
phhhhtttttt.... put on a round where we pretend we care

Drugs
phhhhtttttt..... put the worlds most ridiculous policy in place & pretend we care

lets face it
our fans are brain washed gimps ..... the above will appease them as most of them have their heads up their arses like this bloke below
VFL
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. There are plenty of threads about the AFL. Less deflection .
& in everyone of those
its deflect deflect deflect from our widdle fumblers

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