Fight Club - Football Crowds

[sydneyfc]

11,925 at newcastle

the jets compare pretty well vs them imo

[Raiderdave]

11,925 at newcastle

the jets compare pretty well vs them imo

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comparable eh ? >


Newcastle Knights Average in 2013
18,821
& 17,151 this season ( not bad considering they're coming 2nd last )

the Jets in 2013/14
11,949


only a fuckwit would consider those figures
comparable

[AFLcrap1]

No wonder Fc is in the fumbleball camp.
He is a complete & utter fucking ****

[leagueiscrap]

No wonder Fc is in the fumbleball camp.
He is a complete & utter fucking ****

it takes one to know one

[pussycat]

Ticketing, scheduling and bad footy to blame for AFL crowd decline: Fans association

12 June 2014

The AFL has seen a sharp drop in crowd numbers in Victoria, New South Wales, Tasmania and the ACT this season, and AFL Fans Association President Brian Clarke believes variable pricing, scheduling and a poor quality of football are to blame.

Speaking exclusively to The Under Age, Clarke labelled variable pricing a tax on football.

“We regard variable pricing as very unfair for the fans. We regard it as a footy tax, and a blatant grab for cash,” he said.

Variable pricing allows the AFL to charge different prices and for tickets according to demand, and to change seating categorisations according to match popularity.

The Fans Association has put forward a formal complaint to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC).

Clarke also pointed to scheduling as a factor in the underwhelming crowd figures.

“Monday night is a terrible night for football. It’s a concept borrowed from the USA, where the Monday night is often the top ranking game of the week, but the AFL needs to realise that the A in the AFL stands for Australia and not America, and that this concept just does not work here,” Clarke argued.

Monday night football has seen a steady drop off in crowd attendances since its introduction to the AFL in 2009. Clarke used the recent Sunday twilight match between St Kilda and the Gold Coast Suns as an example of poor scheduling.

“To get 14,000, plus a few more, at an AFL match just shows you that people are voting with their feet,” he said.

The match had an official attendance figure of 14,625, and is currently the lowest attendance for a football match in Victoria for the season.

Clarke also told The Under Age the defensive style adopted by coaches was pushing fans away from football.

“What we’ve got now is a series of rolling mauls, constant stoppages, and we’ve got a very unattractive style of play,” Clarke said.

He criticised clubs’ overuse of the interchange leading to frequent substitutions of players on the field.

“The problems have stemmed from the interchange … The interchange was used as a device to give players a rest, and under modern AFL coaching systems, has been turned into a strategic tool,” Clarke said.

“It leads to more contests, which creates more rolling mauls, it creates more soft tissue injuries, and it creates more unattractive play.”

The president of the association, formed late last year, argued against the cap at 120 rotations, believing that the cap should be set at 40.

“A proposal was put forward to the Game Committee to reduce interchanges to 80. We feel that that (the cap of 80) is too high, and it should be reduced to 40 a game.”

Clarke acknowledged defensive coaching is an issue, but said that “the interchange is the root of the problem (ugly football).”

Interchange statistics from specific clubs seem to back Clarke up. Ross Lyon-led Fremantle, often criticized by football purists for playing a dour, boring style of football, average the most interchange rotations in the league at 115.7 per game.

Port Adelaide and Geelong, two sides praised for playing attacking, direct, and entertaining football, are both in the bottom five of the league for rotations. Geelong draws more than 40,000 fans to their matches on average, while Port Adelaide has an average home attendance of almost 45,000.

South Australian football as a whole has seen fantastic attendances this football season. The completion of a redevelopment opening Adelaide Oval to AFL matches has sparked a spike in SA football attendances, with crowd figures in the state rising by over 50 per cent, from 30,264 to 45,618.

“The AFL would be very happy with the new stadium in Adelaide, because it has kept crowd figures up,” Clarke said.

“It’s a credit to the AFL for getting the Adelaide Oval redeveloped.”

Adelaide Oval recently hosted a clash between top of the table Port Adelaide and reigning premiers Hawthorn that attracted a crowd of 52,233, the highest AFL crowd ever at a South Australian venue.

http://theunderage.com.au/2014/06/12/ti ... KA1a4.dpbs

[piesman2011]

Crowds are up for AFL this season mate. Down in Melbourne, but up everywhere else.

[Fred]

I agree with most the article. Variable pricing is a failure and will be gone next year. Monday night footy also no good. And these running rucks or whatever they call it in union are no good either.

[leagueiscrap]

I agree with most the article. Variable pricing is a failure and will be gone next year. Monday night footy also no good. And these running rucks or whatever they call it in union are no good either.

the variable ticketing is to blame to some point but as well as when you consider the, Essendon, Carlton & Richmond are near the bottom of the ladder crowds will be down in Vic. but all up who care, i think with the end of the current Broad cast deal near the AFL has experimented a bit with fixtures & scheduling of times of games. eg these stupid sunday night twilight games for starters. Collingwood are playing Carlton at 7.10pm this sunday

but as a whole crowds are still up, expansion teams are growing & starting to become competitive

2014 33173
2013 32163
2012 31509
2011 34893

[pussycat]

and before that 36 -36 - and almost 37k . A sight correction will not prevent the spiral

[leagueiscrap]

and before that 36 -36 - and almost 37k . A sight correction will not prevent the spiral

it seems to difficult for you to comprehend pussy cat.
the reason for the drop in crowds, is because of 2 new fresh teams in NRL heart land, playing in smaller stadiums in front of smaller crowds= total crowd drop.
as the teams have progressed they have found a spot and grown in popularity so the average will grow again.
even at their lowest point they are still twice more than the NRL, but now skippng ahead again even with the expansion teams

so can you explain the drop in the NRL crowds of last year?, no expansion teams, nothing new, just several thousand fans fall off the NRL bandwason. yep its only the starting of the whole downward spiral of the NRL

[sydneyfc]

a shocking crowd in south west sydney for the tigers game
9,243

i think i remember reading about campbeltown complaining about not getting enough nrl games since they share with the other 2 stadiums their crowds this season have been pathetic, 6k, 16k which was solid but now 9k

[eelofwest]

40k for the Pies vs Carlton game, lowest crowd in 14 years for these 2 teams.

Crowds in Melbourne about 13% down in 2014.........................................AFL HQ getting worried.........hahaha

41844 2013 in melbourne
37319 2014

-4525 per game in melbourne........................

That is what you get when you gauge the sporting public for these so called blockbuster games.............................guess what fans in Melbourne are letting there feet do the talking.

[leagueiscrap]

As of this morning



Note: doesnt include St George game tonight. If they reach their crowd average of 19,000 the NRL will gain a positive percentage increase on the crowd average while still being down slightly on the total.


AFL crowds now down very slightly on average and total.

considering the 2 Carlton & richmond are near the bottom of the ladder & essendon out side of the 8. 3 of the top 4 crowd pulling sides
AFL still doubling the NRL

[sydneyfc]

only 10,114 at win stadium tonight ffor the dragons

[leagueiscrap]

a bumper crowd of 14,921 at ANZ in a 84k seater Olympic stadium