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Re: Is GWS a Canberra team or Western Sydney team?

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I agree with the core of this thread. The giants were supposed to be a western Sydney team, but from almost day dot of the clubs creation, decisions made by both the AFL administration and the giants administration made GWS anything but..

The errors I see gws made are...
Trying to represent both western Sydney and the ACT together that has just meant done GWS stuggles to represent either
I think that one factor not often thought about with this is that this has inadvertently put a question mark over the clubs head from the start. There has always been talk and discussion around whether GWS should move permanently to ACT from its inception, (it doesn't matter if its just rumours or nonsensical discussions) that this kind of uncertainty has not helped GWS at all.

Theres nothing western Sydney about GWS
Everything about gws is wrong. Its clearly a Melbourne thing disguised poorly to look western Sydney. Like the name Greater Western Sydney. Lol that is not a term someone from Sydney would ever use. instead its something somebody from outside the city or even the state would say. The so called battle of the bridge haha. Anzac Bridge is the bridge used but seriously why don't they call it.. battle FOR the Bridge as in battle for the Bridge in Sydney that people actually care about. That would make sense

The way the AFL and giants administration promoted GWS and way it acted during those early days was just too Melbourne'esk
What do I mean by Melbourne'esk... well melbourne is where afl is the king fish, and being too Melbourne'esk is my way of describing times when the afl had forgotten that western Sydney is not Melbourne, and (unfortunately for GWS) the afl is just a little baby fish here but still thought and acted like it was king.
Examples of this is the afl and their nonsensical push for MORE public money. When the AFL decided that GWS would be based in blacktown(rooty hill to be precise), the AFL pushed blacktown city council and the nsw state government to add funds to help build a home ground for GWS. Even though moving away from blacktown was the best idea the afl came up with reg GWS the afl still received millions to upgrade that field in rooty hill, for the AFL to then decide against it and deciding to play out of Olympic Park instead(which is the better location for them and really GWS's only real option from the start), asking for even more public money to be spent on them at Olympic Park, and after being seen to waste millions of public money on blacktown. In regards to community opinion and public relations even requesting more money is clearly a poor decision. Only in an afl dominated market would that kind of poor publicity make any sense...

If the showground was good enough to host minor Olympic sports, how would it not be sufficient enough to host the AFL, a minor sport in Western Sydney? It was obvious to anyone from western Sydney that the showgrounds existing Olympic games built infrastructure was more than enough for gws for the foreseeable future.

And sadly it seems that still the afl still has not learnt anything from its early failures with GWS... cos even today the afl is pushing for more allocation of funds to upgrade gws home ground, lol with the afl using the exact talking points it was using a decade ago, "we need more money spent cos in 10 years even 30,000 seats wont be big enough for GWS".


PS
I already know that many afl fans in here will disagree strongly with my view that the afl has been aggressive in pushing for funding in nsw or that it causes negative pushbacks, infact i reckon many will claim that the NSW government needs to spend more on AFL. My answer for these GWS experts feom across the southern states is... Except for the few nutters, afl fans in Sydney are generally those who are least in favour of more money spent on afl facilities in nsw such as spotless. Funny that aye.
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Re: Is GWS a Canberra team or Western Sydney team?

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Two points here both big costly mistakes.
First mistake the Giants moniker does not represent any flora, fauna or cultural aspect of Sydney. so potential fans can not identify with and embrace the team, in short the giant name is an unmitigated disaster.

Please learn from the Dolphins, credit where credit is due, what a terrific name that people love.

Second mistake is to try and represent two distinct areas. This is a lazy cop out trying to fix a past failure by an incompetent AFL administration too lazy to develop a team that represents Canberra and Southern NSW.
The NRL and Rugby Union both invested and built teams in this region and both have been an incredible success.
Playing games in Canberra has been well received but it is no substitute for a local team and it takes games away from Giants stadium which are vital to give any hope for attendance and fan figures to grow.
Throwing more money ( millions $ ) at the Giants won't fix these issues.
The reset button needs to be set, a new name ( no more ghastly giants name) and a priority to play more games in Sydney..
Canberra needs games and this region is more important for growth than propping up dead wood teams such as North Melbourne.
AFL needs to pull it's finger out , stop making excuses ( like it is on the Tasmanian issue) and get a team in Canberra .
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Bbear wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:15 pm
Two points here both big costly mistakes.
First mistake the Giants moniker does not represent any flora, fauna or cultural aspect of Sydney. so potential fans can not identify with and embrace the team, in short the giant name is an unmitigated disaster.

Please learn from the Dolphins, credit where credit is due, what a terrific name that people love.

Second mistake is to try and represent two distinct areas. This is a lazy cop out trying to fix a past failure by an incompetent AFL administration too lazy to develop a team that represents Canberra and Southern NSW.
The NRL and Rugby Union both invested and built teams in this region and both have been an incredible success.
Playing games in Canberra has been well received but it is no substitute for a local team and it takes games away from Giants stadium which are vital to give any hope for attendance and fan figures to grow.
Throwing more money ( millions $ ) at the Giants won't fix these issues.
The reset button needs to be set, a new name ( no more ghastly giants name) and a priority to play more games in Sydney..
Canberra needs games and this region is more important for growth than propping up dead wood teams such as North Melbourne.
AFL needs to pull it's finger out , stop making excuses ( like it is on the Tasmanian issue) and get a team in Canberra .
3Rd mistake
Sending a geriatric racist old fool ( might work in racist AFL Melb) to Talk up this team & all he did was alienate any future fans with his racist comments .

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AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:42 am
Bbear wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:15 pm
Two points here both big costly mistakes.
First mistake the Giants moniker does not represent any flora, fauna or cultural aspect of Sydney. so potential fans can not identify with and embrace the team, in short the giant name is an unmitigated disaster.

Please learn from the Dolphins, credit where credit is due, what a terrific name that people love.

Second mistake is to try and represent two distinct areas. This is a lazy cop out trying to fix a past failure by an incompetent AFL administration too lazy to develop a team that represents Canberra and Southern NSW.
The NRL and Rugby Union both invested and built teams in this region and both have been an incredible success.
Playing games in Canberra has been well received but it is no substitute for a local team and it takes games away from Giants stadium which are vital to give any hope for attendance and fan figures to grow.
Throwing more money ( millions $ ) at the Giants won't fix these issues.
The reset button needs to be set, a new name ( no more ghastly giants name) and a priority to play more games in Sydney..
Canberra needs games and this region is more important for growth than propping up dead wood teams such as North Melbourne.
AFL needs to pull it's finger out , stop making excuses ( like it is on the Tasmanian issue) and get a team in Canberra .
3Rd mistake
Sending a geriatric racist old fool ( might work in racist AFL Melb) to Talk up this team & all he did was alienate any future fans with his racist comments .

Strange people down vicderp way
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214Four wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:07 am
I agree with the core of this thread. The giants were supposed to be a western Sydney team, but from almost day dot of the clubs creation, decisions made by both the AFL administration and the giants administration made GWS anything but..

The errors I see gws made are...
Trying to represent both western Sydney and the ACT together that has just meant done GWS stuggles to represent either
I think that one factor not often thought about with this is that this has inadvertently put a question mark over the clubs head from the start. There has always been talk and discussion around whether GWS should move permanently to ACT from its inception, (it doesn't matter if its just rumours or nonsensical discussions) that this kind of uncertainty has not helped GWS at all.

Theres nothing western Sydney about GWS
Everything about gws is wrong. Its clearly a Melbourne thing disguised poorly to look western Sydney. Like the name Greater Western Sydney. Lol that is not a term someone from Sydney would ever use. instead its something somebody from outside the city or even the state would say. The so called battle of the bridge haha. Anzac Bridge is the bridge used but seriously why don't they call it.. battle FOR the Bridge as in battle for the Bridge in Sydney that people actually care about. That would make sense

The way the AFL and giants administration promoted GWS and way it acted during those early days was just too Melbourne'esk
What do I mean by Melbourne'esk... well melbourne is where afl is the king fish, and being too Melbourne'esk is my way of describing times when the afl had forgotten that western Sydney is not Melbourne, and (unfortunately for GWS) the afl is just a little baby fish here but still thought and acted like it was king.
Examples of this is the afl and their nonsensical push for MORE public money. When the AFL decided that GWS would be based in blacktown(rooty hill to be precise), the AFL pushed blacktown city council and the nsw state government to add funds to help build a home ground for GWS. Even though moving away from blacktown was the best idea the afl came up with reg GWS the afl still received millions to upgrade that field in rooty hill, for the AFL to then decide against it and deciding to play out of Olympic Park instead(which is the better location for them and really GWS's only real option from the start), asking for even more public money to be spent on them at Olympic Park, and after being seen to waste millions of public money on blacktown. In regards to community opinion and public relations even requesting more money is clearly a poor decision. Only in an afl dominated market would that kind of poor publicity make any sense...

If the showground was good enough to host minor Olympic sports, how would it not be sufficient enough to host the AFL, a minor sport in Western Sydney? It was obvious to anyone from western Sydney that the showgrounds existing Olympic games built infrastructure was more than enough for gws for the foreseeable future.

And sadly it seems that still the afl still has not learnt anything from its early failures with GWS... cos even today the afl is pushing for more allocation of funds to upgrade gws home ground, lol with the afl using the exact talking points it was using a decade ago, "we need more money spent cos in 10 years even 30,000 seats wont be big enough for GWS".


PS
I already know that many afl fans in here will disagree strongly with my view that the afl has been aggressive in pushing for funding in nsw or that it causes negative pushbacks, infact i reckon many will claim that the NSW government needs to spend more on AFL. My answer for these GWS experts feom across the southern states is... Except for the few nutters, afl fans in Sydney are generally those who are least in favour of more money spent on afl facilities in nsw such as spotless. Funny that aye.
That is right on the money.
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truthbomber wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:19 pm
Pete__09 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:32 pm
I tend to agree. Footy is just never going to get popular there. It is a big waste of money for the AFL to keep trying with them. Lets start teams in Canberra, Tasmania & a (possible) NT team.

Western Sydney can just stick with Rugby League & Soccer while most of the rest of the country follows Australia's true national football code in winter.
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Saw on the news that the midgets got beat last night .
Must have been a massive disappointment for their 13 fans in Syd .
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AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:44 am
Saw on the news that the midgets got beat last night .
Must have been a massive disappointment for their 13 fans in Syd .
A massive disappointment for all those that don’t barrack for Collingwood.

A tough game…in the end I think the giants last 6 minutes was too defensive.
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AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:44 am
Saw on the news that the midgets got beat last night .
Must have been a massive disappointment for their 13 fans in Syd .
13 fans in Sydney ?
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when did their fanbase there double ? :hmm:

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The Giants were ripped off with a few free kicks that were not paid to them as well.
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Quolls2019 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:24 am
AFLcrap1 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:44 am
Saw on the news that the midgets got beat last night .
Must have been a massive disappointment for their 13 fans in Syd .
A massive disappointment for all those that don’t barrack for Collingwood.

A tough game…in the end I think the giants last 6 minutes was too defensive.
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Skippy Steve wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:12 pm
The Giants were ripped off with a few free kicks that were not paid to them as well.
was that before they took off their big floppy shoes or after ? :-k

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Canberra is a GWS state. They love the Giants down there.
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Skippy Steve wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:16 pm
Canberra is a GWS state. They love the Giants down there.
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