Would AFL be better if they got rid of the 2 extra side goals?

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Would AFL be better if they got rid of the 2 extra side goals?

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This would allow for only the best kickers to score. With no consolation points for poor skills when people miss a shot at goal.


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nope its unique to AFL and changes the game to much.


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Footy Fan wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:08 pm This would allow for only the best kickers to score. With no consolation points for poor skills when people miss a shot at goal.
No, look at the history of all football games,
They all have some form of “behind” the goals,
Australian rules (VFL) introduced the point for a ball going behind the goals to reduce the of number drawn matches in 1897. Well after the rules mentioned behind posts.
Soccer introduced kick outs and goal kicks and the other rugby type ball games evolved other ways of clearing the ball when it went “behind” the goals or goal line.
Most games still have the equivalent of point posts, whether they call them corners, flags or pylons, they are still there, and except soccer, have different scores or methods of clearing the ball when the line is crossed.

Arguing with great authority from a position of complete ignorance seems to be your forte.


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I like the point concept as think it makes the game very exciting - it both rewards and punishes. Therefore if you are the dominant team but not getting the goals - the points can reflect the dominance - however too many points can lead to the other team beating you if they score goals and are more accurate.

My frustration with Soccer for instance is that a team can be clearly dominant all game and not score and it can be a 3 minute brain fade or error that sees the other side score and win.

So the point ion aussie rules is so useful as in the above case, say soccer had the same score process as Aussie Rules, the dominant team would win as they accumulate may 7 points - to the weaker but lucky teams 6 (1 goal). However, if the other team was to come back and score two goals instead of the won - well they deserve the win as the other team wasted their opportunities when in front of goal. That's my take any,


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Fred wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:28 pm I like the point concept as think it makes the game very exciting - it both rewards and punishes. Therefore if you are the dominant team but not getting the goals - the points can reflect the dominance - however too many points can lead to the other team beating you if they score goals and are more accurate.

My frustration with Soccer for instance is that a team can be clearly dominant all game and not score and it can be a 3 minute brain fade or error that sees the other side score and win.

So the point ion aussie rules is so useful as in the above case, say soccer had the same score process as Aussie Rules, the dominant team would win as they accumulate may 7 points - to the weaker but lucky teams 6 (1 goal). However, if the other team was to come back and score two goals instead of the won - well they deserve the win as the other team wasted their opportunities when in front of goal. That's my take any,
yeah good points i agree with them all..

especially the soccer won.
A team can be so dominate and have 80% of the ball and still lose 1 - 0

is why soccer is so popular also, you can be a average team and only lose by 2 goals.


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Its a boring enough game now without teams failing to score.


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Yeah would hate to have a grand final where one team didn’t score ....


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Quolls2019 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:20 pm
Footy Fan wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:08 pm This would allow for only the best kickers to score. With no consolation points for poor skills when people miss a shot at goal.
No, look at the history of all football games,
They all have some form of “behind” the goals,
Australian rules (VFL) introduced the point for a ball going behind the goals to reduce the of number drawn matches in 1897. Well after the rules mentioned behind posts.
Soccer introduced kick outs and goal kicks and the other rugby type ball games evolved other ways of clearing the ball when it went “behind” the goals or goal line.
Most games still have the equivalent of point posts, whether they call them corners, flags or pylons, they are still there, and except soccer, have different scores or methods of clearing the ball when the line is crossed.

Arguing with great authority from a position of complete ignorance seems to be your forte.
This is a very lame attempt to defend your lame mess of a game Inequollity old boy!!!!! The whole point is the fumbling game rewards failure. No other code does that. No player ever means to kick a point. The only reason a point is scored is because the poor bumbling fumbler missed a goal. Yep - failed!!!!

And the history of 'all football games' is totally irrelevant. We are talking about the here and now. If other codes had anything resembling a behind they got rid of it a century or more ago so as to remove the stain of embarrassment of rewarding failure.

And pal, 'kick outs', 'goal kicks' or any form of clearing is in no way equivalent to adding an actual point to the scoreline for failing in your main endeavour. You're gonna have to do better that this Inequollity!!!!

And in closing: I argue with great authority from a position of complete knowledge and understanding!!!


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Terry wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:06 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:20 pm
Footy Fan wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:08 pm This would allow for only the best kickers to score. With no consolation points for poor skills when people miss a shot at goal.
No, look at the history of all football games,
They all have some form of “behind” the goals,
Australian rules (VFL) introduced the point for a ball going behind the goals to reduce the of number drawn matches in 1897. Well after the rules mentioned behind posts.
Soccer introduced kick outs and goal kicks and the other rugby type ball games evolved other ways of clearing the ball when it went “behind” the goals or goal line.
Most games still have the equivalent of point posts, whether they call them corners, flags or pylons, they are still there, and except soccer, have different scores or methods of clearing the ball when the line is crossed.

Arguing with great authority from a position of complete ignorance seems to be your forte.
This is a very lame attempt to defend your lame mess of a game Inequollity old boy!!!!! The whole point is the fumbling game rewards failure. No other code does that. No player ever means to kick a point. The only reason a point is scored is because the poor bumbling fumbler missed a goal. Yep - failed!!!!

And the history of 'all football games' is totally irrelevant. We are talking about the here and now. If other codes had anything resembling a behind they got rid of it a century or more ago so as to remove the stain of embarrassment of rewarding failure.

And pal, 'kick outs', 'goal kicks' or any form of clearing is in no way equivalent to adding an actual point to the scoreline for failing in your main endeavour. You're gonna have to do better that this Inequollity!!!!

And in closing: I argue with great authority from a position of complete knowledge and understanding!!!
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Quolls2019 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:36 am
Terry wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:06 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:20 pm

No, look at the history of all football games,
They all have some form of “behind” the goals,
Australian rules (VFL) introduced the point for a ball going behind the goals to reduce the of number drawn matches in 1897. Well after the rules mentioned behind posts.
Soccer introduced kick outs and goal kicks and the other rugby type ball games evolved other ways of clearing the ball when it went “behind” the goals or goal line.
Most games still have the equivalent of point posts, whether they call them corners, flags or pylons, they are still there, and except soccer, have different scores or methods of clearing the ball when the line is crossed.

Arguing with great authority from a position of complete ignorance seems to be your forte.
This is a very lame attempt to defend your lame mess of a game Inequollity old boy!!!!! The whole point is the fumbling game rewards failure. No other code does that. No player ever means to kick a point. The only reason a point is scored is because the poor bumbling fumbler missed a goal. Yep - failed!!!!

And the history of 'all football games' is totally irrelevant. We are talking about the here and now. If other codes had anything resembling a behind they got rid of it a century or more ago so as to remove the stain of embarrassment of rewarding failure.

And pal, 'kick outs', 'goal kicks' or any form of clearing is in no way equivalent to adding an actual point to the scoreline for failing in your main endeavour. You're gonna have to do better that this Inequollity!!!!

And in closing: I argue with great authority from a position of complete knowledge and understanding!!!
Welcome back
Pity your arguments haven’t improved
And those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it. And repeat it you do.
Thanks Inequollity!!! Re history: Let me know when any code introduces any form of scoring following a failure to score. Like you know........ repeating history. Can't see it happening pal!!!!


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One solution would be for the AFL to introduce a second chance, or a mulligan for each kicker(marksman),


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pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:27 am One solution would be for the AFL to introduce a second chance, or a mulligan for each kicker(marksman),
Good idea. Kinda like kindergarten kids. Let 'em keeping kicking till they get one through the big sticks lolololololol!!!! Wadda game lolool!!!!!


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Quolls2019 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:20 pm
Footy Fan wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:08 pm This would allow for only the best kickers to score. With no consolation points for poor skills when people miss a shot at goal.
No, look at the history of all football games,
They all have some form of “behind” the goals,
Australian rules (VFL) introduced the point for a ball going behind the goals to reduce the of number drawn matches in 1897. Well after the rules mentioned behind posts.
Soccer introduced kick outs and goal kicks and the other rugby type ball games evolved other ways of clearing the ball when it went “behind” the goals or goal line.
Most games still have the equivalent of point posts, whether they call them corners, flags or pylons, they are still there, and except soccer, have different scores or methods of clearing the ball when the line is crossed.

Arguing with great authority from a position of complete ignorance seems to be your forte.
There is nothing ignorant about making a sport more challenging.

Why do you think AFL scorelines are so much higher than every single other football code?
It is because scoring is so easy. No sport in the world awards points when you miss or hit the side post.


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It’s a different game indeed. It’s okay if you don’t like it ... that’s your choice. Millions of Aussies love our national game ... some like you don’t. It all comes down to preference. There are many sports I don’t get into as well . What is good is the diversity of spurts we do have in this country to choose from. How good is that.


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Quolls2019 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:36 am
Terry wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:06 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:20 pm

No, look at the history of all football games,
They all have some form of “behind” the goals,
Australian rules (VFL) introduced the point for a ball going behind the goals to reduce the of number drawn matches in 1897. Well after the rules mentioned behind posts.
Soccer introduced kick outs and goal kicks and the other rugby type ball games evolved other ways of clearing the ball when it went “behind” the goals or goal line.
Most games still have the equivalent of point posts, whether they call them corners, flags or pylons, they are still there, and except soccer, have different scores or methods of clearing the ball when the line is crossed.

Arguing with great authority from a position of complete ignorance seems to be your forte.
This is a very lame attempt to defend your lame mess of a game Inequollity old boy!!!!! The whole point is the fumbling game rewards failure. No other code does that. No player ever means to kick a point. The only reason a point is scored is because the poor bumbling fumbler missed a goal. Yep - failed!!!!

And the history of 'all football games' is totally irrelevant. We are talking about the here and now. If other codes had anything resembling a behind they got rid of it a century or more ago so as to remove the stain of embarrassment of rewarding failure.

And pal, 'kick outs', 'goal kicks' or any form of clearing is in no way equivalent to adding an actual point to the scoreline for failing in your main endeavour. You're gonna have to do better that this Inequollity!!!!

And in closing: I argue with great authority from a position of complete knowledge and understanding!!!
Welcome back
Pity your arguments haven’t improved
And those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it. And repeat it you do.
My arguments never needed improving when I constantly win against you fools. :cool:

You don't need two extra side goals in a game of football.
GridIron, Rugby Union, Soccer or Rugby League don't need them. So why does AFL?

Are your players that shit at taking shots at goal that they have to add extra side goals and get rid of crossbars?? :lol: =D
You even reward points if someone hits the post. So very stupid. :(/

Let's be honest. This is all done to make the game too easy to score.


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