Talking Footy

Beaussie wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:46 pm

Quolls2019 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:00 am

Fred wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:26 am

True. I am not too sure what is so controversial about a team who plays a game in Canberra draws more tourist and generates more tourist income than a local Canberra team? I mean if people are having to travel to the game the need accommodation, somewhere to eat, may take time to take in some tourist things whilst there etc. But you have two teams from outside the region as opposed to one. As yes, AFL team supporters do tend to travel although there is a team from Sydney that has made it a tradition that their supporters travel up for the titans game. I remember a few years ago the Titans promoting the game by almost begging supporters to come so as to hopefully outnumber the local supporters.

Not sure that AFL Sydney fans would travel for a Titans game or did you mean an NRL combined fan group?

However the giants want to extend their canberra agreement for another 10 years up to 3 games a year.
Might be good for canberra but does nothing in their attempt to establish their “home” supporter base.
They have made some odd decisions.

Yeah money might be good but I’m with you, odd decision from the Giants who should be focusing on Western Sydney. That said, the Swans played games in Canberra too, prior to the Giants entry to the competition. I remember going down for games at Bruce Stadium and Manuka Oval. Was always a lot of travelling fans from Sydney and lots of coaches outside grounds from Wagga and the Riverina districts.

The AFL should bite the bullet and put a team in Tassy and Canberra, the extra game TV rights would go a long way to pay for both.
And I know that Canberra with the Raiders and the Brumbies would provide stiff opposition…..at first.

If not a combined NT and North Queensland team, then yeah Canberra makes sense for the 20th team. Extra broadcast money would like you say, pay for it, along with lots of travelling fans to the ACT to support the local economy.

Beaussie wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:12 pm

If not a combined NT and North Queensland team, then yeah Canberra makes sense for the 20th team. Extra broadcast money would like you say, pay for it, along with lots of travelling fans to the ACT to support the local economy.

The only way Canberra will get a team is if the Ginats are run outta Sydney town due to total irrelevance and they pack 'em off to Canberra. Even then it'll just be another black hole money pit for fumblehouse. Low crowds. Low interest. No. One. Cares.

Beaussie wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:12 pm

If not a combined NT and North Queensland team, then yeah Canberra makes sense for the 20th team. Extra broadcast money would like you say, pay for it, along with lots of travelling fans to the ACT to support the local economy.

I’ve posted before that a Northern Australian team would also be a good idea.
Ultimately 22 teams (Canberra, Tassy, Northern Australia + 1), 22 rounds with each playing each other once with 1 rivalry round.
Major problem is not the cost as there are several ways to make it cost effective and with expanded tv rights, profitable, would be the scheduling of games, but with permanent (and careful selection of the games) Thursday, Monday and even Tuesday games it could be overcome.
The depth of talent can also be over come.
Where to put the extra team? Hmmmm.

Quolls2019 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:44 pm

Beaussie wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:12 pm

If not a combined NT and North Queensland team, then yeah Canberra makes sense for the 20th team. Extra broadcast money would like you say, pay for it, along with lots of travelling fans to the ACT to support the local economy.

I’ve posted before that a Northern Australian team would also be a good idea.
Ultimately 22 teams (Canberra, Tassy, Northern Australia + 1), 22 rounds with each playing each other once with 1 rivalry round.

I like that idea a lot.

Adelaide could accommodate another team with ease. Tassie of course will get one. That”lol do I say. Not a fan of a team with no defined heartland. The giants playing games in Canberra should heed warning from doing such a thing.

Not Northern Australia. It's not going to happen because the weather is just not conducive for it - even at night. There's a reason why the NTFL play during the wet season. 22 teams - I agree. Tassie, Canberra, 3rd team from Adelaide, 3rd team from Perth.

TLPG wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:48 pm

Not Northern Australia. It's not going to happen because the weather is just not conducive for it - even at night. There's a reason why the NTFL play during the wet season. 22 teams - I agree. Tassie, Canberra, 3rd team from Adelaide, 3rd team from Perth.

The main reason football is played in the wet season in Darwin is because when the NTFA formed cricket was well established playing in the dry season. Cricket was not conducive to the wet grounds and is still played mainly in the (normal Australian) crickets off season.
A secondary reason was that the grounds were very hard for playing football.
The main issue still remains, the secondary issue has been overcome by modern ground management.
There have been proposals to shift the football season, weather related.
From the NT information site:

The Dry

The dry season in the Top End runs from May to October. Temperatures range from 21°C to 32°C (70°F to 90°F) – these are similar to the wet season but with lower humidity of around 20 to 35% and there’s little to no rain. The days are sunny and the nights are mild.
Many travellers find this time of year the most comfortable, as the moderate temperatures make activities such as bushwalking, hiking, camping and cycling ideal, and most areas can be easily accessed.


The Wet/Tropical Summer

The wet season, also known as the Top End’s tropical summer, stretches from November to April. The yearly average is 1570mm (62”). Temperatures during this period usually range from 25°C to 33°C (77°F to 91°F) and humidity can reach higher than 80%.

The weather over The Wet season appears to becoming more extreme:

In the news

Given the recent change in the weather, it is timely to remind the community that the 2021/22 TIO NTFL season abides by the National Extreme Weather Policy, which stipulates how incidents relating to lightning are to be handled.

‘It’s a health issue’: NTFL players discuss hot and humid game times.


However the cost of an AFL club, in an area with such a small population, is problematical, with out government and sponsorship support (mining companies). How ever the NT Thunder competed successfully in the (wet season) QAFL and the NEAFL for a few years.