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Night Grand Final is also something.

Think Thursday night will become permanent - making more games in isolation.


For the NRL - moving the game to quarters is a no brainer I think. Been saying it for years and when I am long gone it may happen - and I'll say - told you so :).


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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 10:32 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 8:06 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 5:09 pm

dude i quoted

i could not see AFL behind a paywall like the NRL has for most games

you stated..

Don’t agree, most AFL games are now behind a paywall with foxtel.

Most or all it does not matter... your games are partially behind a paywall and majority have FTA access into multiple states.
All is different than most, literally.

How many games were free to air in each state last weekend?
In Victoria, the AFL’s biggest market, out of 9 games 4 were on three to air, 5 were behind a paywall.

Despite some posters saying its all a pipe dream, i believe the next AFL rights will be hotly contested, will be a record price and if one particular consortium gets in, hopefully more FTA games.
i do not think you understand a game being behind a paywall..
AFL games are partially behind a paywall,
while broadcast into multiple states on FTA ...

where as NRL is not.. LITERALLY
Yes I do understand.
They may be different games in different states but that is totally immaterial to what I was saying.
Last round each southern state had 4 fta games and 5 on foxtel related streams, doesn’t matter they are different games.
To watch all the games of each round you will be watching most behind a paywall, no matter which state you are in.

I will not go into the literal meaning of “AFL games are partially behind a paywall”.

We agree to disagree, mainly on semantics, but disagree we do.
Bold capitals not required, you’ll be over using emojis next.


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Quolls2019 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 6:08 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 10:32 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 8:06 pm

All is different than most, literally.

How many games were free to air in each state last weekend?
In Victoria, the AFL’s biggest market, out of 9 games 4 were on three to air, 5 were behind a paywall.

Despite some posters saying its all a pipe dream, i believe the next AFL rights will be hotly contested, will be a record price and if one particular consortium gets in, hopefully more FTA games.
i do not think you understand a game being behind a paywall..
AFL games are partially behind a paywall,
while broadcast into multiple states on FTA ...

where as NRL is not.. LITERALLY
Yes I do understand.
They may be different games in different states but that is totally immaterial to what I was saying.
Last round each southern state had 4 fta games and 5 on foxtel related streams, doesn’t matter they are different games.
To watch all the games of each round you will be watching most behind a paywall, no matter which state you are in.

I will not go into the literal meaning of “AFL games are partially behind a paywall”.

We agree to disagree, mainly on semantics, but disagree we do.
Bold capitals not required, you’ll be over using emojis next.
This week, 2 AFL games on fta in the three southern states…..7 behind a paywall….most…literally.
Most of the other cities, areas are the same…..


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Quolls2019 wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 7:40 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 6:08 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 10:32 am

i do not think you understand a game being behind a paywall..
AFL games are partially behind a paywall,
while broadcast into multiple states on FTA ...

where as NRL is not.. LITERALLY
Yes I do understand.
They may be different games in different states but that is totally immaterial to what I was saying.
Last round each southern state had 4 fta games and 5 on foxtel related streams, doesn’t matter they are different games.
To watch all the games of each round you will be watching most behind a paywall, no matter which state you are in.

I will not go into the literal meaning of “AFL games are partially behind a paywall”.

We agree to disagree, mainly on semantics, but disagree we do.
Bold capitals not required, you’ll be over using emojis next.
This week, 2 AFL games on fta in the three southern states…..7 behind a paywall….most…literally.
Most of the other cities, areas are the same…..
you idiot
they're not behind a paywall at all if you live outside Victardia :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :(/ :(/

most ?
nope .. wrong again


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truthbomber wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 11:00 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 7:40 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 6:08 pm

Yes I do understand.
They may be different games in different states but that is totally immaterial to what I was saying.
Last round each southern state had 4 fta games and 5 on foxtel related streams, doesn’t matter they are different games.
To watch all the games of each round you will be watching most behind a paywall, no matter which state you are in.

I will not go into the literal meaning of “AFL games are partially behind a paywall”.

We agree to disagree, mainly on semantics, but disagree we do.
Bold capitals not required, you’ll be over using emojis next.
This week, 2 AFL games on fta in the three southern states…..7 behind a paywall….most…literally.
Most of the other cities, areas are the same…..
you idiot
they're not behind a paywall at all if you live outside Victardia :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :(/ :(/

most ?
nope .. wrong again
Round 8 AFL this week
Wa 2 fta…..7 games not
Sa. 2 fta……7 games not
Canberra 3 fta 6 games not
Sydney 3 fta. 6 games not.
Darwin 2 fta…..7 not
Brisbane 3 fta….6 not
Tasmania 2 fta…7 not

I don't know what you are looking at.
But stop proving you're an uninformed idiot….most AFL games are behind a paywall…if they are not on fta you pay to watch them.


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Quolls2019 wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 5:22 pm
truthbomber wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 11:00 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 7:40 pm

This week, 2 AFL games on fta in the three southern states…..7 behind a paywall….most…literally.
Most of the other cities, areas are the same…..
you idiot
they're not behind a paywall at all if you live outside Victardia :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :(/ :(/

most ?
nope .. wrong again
Round 8 AFL this week
Wa 2 fta…..7 games not
Sa. 2 fta……7 games not
Canberra 3 fta 6 games not
Sydney 3 fta. 6 games not.
Darwin 2 fta…..7 not
Brisbane 3 fta….6 not
Tasmania 2 fta…7 not

I don't know what you are looking at.
But stop proving you're an uninformed idiot….most AFL games are behind a paywall…if they are not on fta you pay to watch them.
And ther's not that many stupid enought to pay to watch them :rofl:


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pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 1:36 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 5:22 pm
truthbomber wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 11:00 am

you idiot
they're not behind a paywall at all if you live outside Victardia :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :(/ :(/

most ?
nope .. wrong again
Round 8 AFL this week
Wa 2 fta…..7 games not
Sa. 2 fta……7 games not
Canberra 3 fta 6 games not
Sydney 3 fta. 6 games not.
Darwin 2 fta…..7 not
Brisbane 3 fta….6 not
Tasmania 2 fta…7 not

I don't know what you are looking at.
But stop proving you're an uninformed idiot….most AFL games are behind a paywall…if they are not on fta you pay to watch them.
And ther's not that many stupid enought to pay to watch them :rofl:
With the money the AFL have, are and will get paid for their broadcast rights, the evidence, as it usually is, is against you.


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Quolls2019 wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 7:40 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 6:08 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 10:32 am

i do not think you understand a game being behind a paywall..
AFL games are partially behind a paywall,
while broadcast into multiple states on FTA ...

where as NRL is not.. LITERALLY
Yes I do understand.
They may be different games in different states but that is totally immaterial to what I was saying.
Last round each southern state had 4 fta games and 5 on foxtel related streams, doesn’t matter they are different games.
To watch all the games of each round you will be watching most behind a paywall, no matter which state you are in.

I will not go into the literal meaning of “AFL games are partially behind a paywall”.

We agree to disagree, mainly on semantics, but disagree we do.
Bold capitals not required, you’ll be over using emojis next.
This week, 2 AFL games on fta in the three southern states…..7 behind a paywall….most…literally.
Most of the other cities, areas are the same…..
you and your literally..

again the paywall from NRL and AFL are totally different..
just because 1 round... there is a world outside of Melbourne..

most states get 4 or 5 FTA games per week..

Your games are not totally blanketed behind a paywall. it still can get national coverage in other states

get out of your dumb bloody bubble


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Quolls2019 wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 5:22 pm
truthbomber wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 11:00 am
Quolls2019 wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 7:40 pm

This week, 2 AFL games on fta in the three southern states…..7 behind a paywall….most…literally.
Most of the other cities, areas are the same…..
you idiot
they're not behind a paywall at all if you live outside Victardia :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :(/ :(/

most ?
nope .. wrong again
Round 8 AFL this week
Wa 2 fta…..7 games not
Sa. 2 fta……7 games not
Canberra 3 fta 6 games not
Sydney 3 fta. 6 games not.
Darwin 2 fta…..7 not
Brisbane 3 fta….6 not
Tasmania 2 fta…7 not

I don't know what you are looking at.
But stop proving you're an uninformed idiot….most AFL games are behind a paywall…if they are not on fta you pay to watch them.
i bet you there is not another week like this in the AFL with so less FTA access

Quolls,

A Game that is played between Adelaide v West Coast On FTA into both states.. and some times on FTA into NSW AND QLD
but on FOX (PAYWALL) into Bubble world Melbourne

does not mean the Game is fully behind a PAYWALL>> it is partially behind a paywall.

Quolls,

NRL

5 exclusive Games per week on FOX

NATIONALLY

hopefully you now understand


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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 9:29 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 5:22 pm
truthbomber wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 11:00 am

you idiot
they're not behind a paywall at all if you live outside Victardia :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :(/ :(/

most ?
nope .. wrong again
Round 8 AFL this week
Wa 2 fta…..7 games not
Sa. 2 fta……7 games not
Canberra 3 fta 6 games not
Sydney 3 fta. 6 games not.
Darwin 2 fta…..7 not
Brisbane 3 fta….6 not
Tasmania 2 fta…7 not

I don't know what you are looking at.
But stop proving you're an uninformed idiot….most AFL games are behind a paywall…if they are not on fta you pay to watch them.
i bet you there is not another week like this in the AFL with so less FTA access

Quolls,

A Game that is played between Adelaide v West Coast On FTA into both states.. and some times on FTA into NSW AND QLD
but on FOX (PAYWALL) into Bubble world Melbourne

does not mean the Game is fully behind a PAYWALL>> it is partially behind a paywall.

Quolls,

NRL

5 exclusive Games per week on FOX

NATIONALLY

hopefully you now understand
I understand that you don’t understand simple logic.


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Quolls2019 wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 10:04 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 9:29 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 5:22 pm

Round 8 AFL this week
Wa 2 fta…..7 games not
Sa. 2 fta……7 games not
Canberra 3 fta 6 games not
Sydney 3 fta. 6 games not.
Darwin 2 fta…..7 not
Brisbane 3 fta….6 not
Tasmania 2 fta…7 not

I don't know what you are looking at.
But stop proving you're an uninformed idiot….most AFL games are behind a paywall…if they are not on fta you pay to watch them.
i bet you there is not another week like this in the AFL with so less FTA access

Quolls,

A Game that is played between Adelaide v West Coast On FTA into both states.. and some times on FTA into NSW AND QLD
but on FOX (PAYWALL) into Bubble world Melbourne

does not mean the Game is fully behind a PAYWALL>> it is partially behind a paywall.

Quolls,

NRL

5 exclusive Games per week on FOX

NATIONALLY

hopefully you now understand
I understand that you don’t understand simple logic.
literally


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https://www.afr.com/companies/media-and ... 506-p5aj4h

fox do not seem to worried, or is it a bluff

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What did you expect him to say? It’s all a game of Chess at this stage. Do agree though re: it is more than dollars - AFL have reduced their TV rights to ensure coverage on fta into Sydney and Brisbane plus regionals in those areas.


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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 9:20 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 7:40 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 6:08 pm

Yes I do understand.
They may be different games in different states but that is totally immaterial to what I was saying.
Last round each southern state had 4 fta games and 5 on foxtel related streams, doesn’t matter they are different games.
To watch all the games of each round you will be watching most behind a paywall, no matter which state you are in.

I will not go into the literal meaning of “AFL games are partially behind a paywall”.

We agree to disagree, mainly on semantics, but disagree we do.
Bold capitals not required, you’ll be over using emojis next.
This week, 2 AFL games on fta in the three southern states…..7 behind a paywall….most…literally.
Most of the other cities, areas are the same…..
you and your literally..

again the paywall from NRL and AFL are totally different..
just because 1 round... there is a world outside of Melbourne..

most states get 4 or 5 FTA games per week..

Your games are not totally blanketed behind a paywall. it still can get national coverage in other states

get out of your dumb bloody bubble

“you and your literally..”. If you look just a few posts back, you should realise that you started that.
NRL games are not completely blanketed behind a paywall,

Some of the early Thursday AFL rounds did have more fta games but not the majority.
And for one week Perth seem to have got 6 games….lucky them.
And a check of recent and future AFL broadcasts Cleary show most are behind a paywall.
And not all NRL games are behind a paywall…generally 3 games a week are on FTA.

AFL tv major markets

Rnd 7

Melbourne 3/6
Adelaide 4/5
Sydney 4/5
Brisbane 4/5
Perth 4/5
Tasmania 3/6

Rnd 8

Melbourne 2/7
Adelaide 2/7
Sydney 3/6
Brisbane 3/6
Perth 2/7
Tasmania 2/7

Rnd 9

Melbourne 3/6
Adelaide 3/6
Sydney 3/6
Brisbane 3/6
Perth 4/5
Tasmania 3/6


Rnd 10

Melbourne 2/7
Adelaide 3/6
Sydney 3/6
Brisbane 4/5
Perth 4/5
Tasmania 3/6

Rnd 11

Melbourne. 3/6
Adelaide. 4/5
Sydney. 3/6
Brisbane 3/6
Perth 3/6
Tasmania 3/6

Forget about my “bubble” and get your blinkers off and bring back the original reasonable and logical LeeroyNRL.
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Network 10 and Paramount ‘happy’ with the A-League. This despite the primary channel now regularly beaten by every other network and 10’s secondary channels on Saturday nights. Hmmm, they desperately need the AFL me thinks.


Network 10 ‘happy’ despite A-League struggles as AFL broadcast bid looms
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May 23, 2022


Undeterred by poor linear ratings, Network 10 insists it is “incredibly happy” with the first season of its long-term investment in the A-Leagues while reaffirming its strong interest in the AFL’s broadcast rights, saying it can help put Australia’s indigenous game in front of an international audience.

10’s five-year, $200 million deal to show the A-Leagues is off to a challenging start, with the men’s competition in particular struggling for mainstream relevance amid a continued downturn in crowds, TV ratings and general interest.

Most games are hidden away on 10’s nascent streaming service Paramount+, which launched in August, but ratings for the A-League Men on the network’s main channel have declined during the season, averaging just 86,000 according to OzTam - a marginal increase on last season’s ABC numbers. The elimination final between Western United and Wellington Phoenix last weekend rated so poorly that 10 had a lower audience share than secondary channels 10 Peach and 10 Bold.

“The interesting thing is the reach has certainly grown this year. The A-League, on our platforms, the reach is up 22 per cent, and that’s important. No matter what way you cut it, the reach is bigger. Because we’re across three platforms [linear TV, 10Play and Paramount+] it doesn’t come through as strongly that that is the case.

“There’s an awful lot of noise around it, which is to be expected - we’re used to that. We really want to make sure people know we’re committed to it. We’re coming into something we knew needed to build and grow ... we got a few curveballs this year that will make it easier, moving forward, to amplify and build on that.

Much can be blamed on the pandemic, which forced the Australian Professional Leagues to reschedule more than 90 men’s and women’s matches during the peak of the Omicron wave, robbing the season of any sense of momentum, while teething issues with the Paramount+ app have also left fans infuriated.

10’s co-chief executive Beverley McGarvey said after Saturday night’s grand final between Western United and Melbourne City, the network would sit down with the APL for an in-depth review of what went right and wrong this season.

“But for year one of a long-term deal, we’re all very happy in a very challenging environment,” she told the Herald and The Age.

“Would we like it to be doing more on Saturday nights? Absolutely, but you could ask me about any show on the schedule and I would say I would like more viewers.”

Asked directly if 10 would persist with showing the A-League on its main channel - which sources say is written into the broadcast deal, and could prove an obstacle for any future contract with the AFL - McGarvey said: “We would never talk to the details of a commercial agreement, but we will always work with the APL to make sure the games are in the right place.”

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Undeterred by poor linear ratings, Network 10 insists it is “incredibly happy” with the first season of its long-term investment in the A-Leagues while reaffirming its strong interest in the AFL’s broadcast rights, saying it can help put Australia’s indigenous game in front of an international audience.

10’s five-year, $200 million deal to show the A-Leagues is off to a challenging start, with the men’s competition in particular struggling for mainstream relevance amid a continued downturn in crowds, TV ratings and general interest.

Most games are hidden away on 10’s nascent streaming service Paramount+, which launched in August, but ratings for the A-League Men on the network’s main channel have declined during the season, averaging just 86,000 according to OzTam - a marginal increase on last season’s ABC numbers. The elimination final between Western United and Wellington Phoenix last weekend rated so poorly that 10 had a lower audience share than secondary channels 10 Peach and 10 Bold.

Much can be blamed on the pandemic, which forced the Australian Professional Leagues to reschedule more than 90 men’s and women’s matches during the peak of the Omicron wave, robbing the season of any sense of momentum, while teething issues with the Paramount+ app have also left fans infuriated.

10’s co-chief executive Beverley McGarvey said after Saturday night’s grand final between Western United and Melbourne City, the network would sit down with the APL for an in-depth review of what went right and wrong this season.

“But for year one of a long-term deal, we’re all very happy in a very challenging environment,” she told the Herald and The Age.

“The interesting thing is the reach has certainly grown this year. The A-League, on our platforms, the reach is up 22 per cent, and that’s important. No matter what way you cut it, the reach is bigger. Because we’re across three platforms [linear TV, 10Play and Paramount+] it doesn’t come through as strongly that that is the case.

“There’s an awful lot of noise around it, which is to be expected - we’re used to that. We really want to make sure people know we’re committed to it. We’re coming into something we knew needed to build and grow ... we got a few curveballs this year that will make it easier, moving forward, to amplify and build on that.
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“Would we like it to be doing more on Saturday nights? Absolutely, but you could ask me about any show on the schedule and I would say I would like more viewers.”

Asked directly if 10 would persist with showing the A-League on its main channel - which sources say is written into the broadcast deal, and could prove an obstacle for any future contract with the AFL - McGarvey said: “We would never talk to the details of a commercial agreement, but we will always work with the APL to make sure the games are in the right place.”

McGarvey promised improvements to the app were on the way - ideally in time for next season - to give viewers the option of being able to pause, rewind and fast-forward during live matches, which she explained wasn’t as simple to implement as many might think.

“It requires deep investment into the product roadmap and then the ability to execute it, so you need lots and lots of developers,” he said. “We have the benefit of being part of a big, global company and all of that stuff will come.”

McGarvey also said that unpopular in-game advertising breaks are here to stay on 10, and will continue to be shown whenever there is a natural stop in play. The APL had previously stopped play and inserted drinks breaks into each half during Saturday night matches to make room for ads, a plan which was abandoned due to a furious reaction from fans.

“Honestly, the economics don’t make sense if we don’t do it. We simply cannot pay for it,” she said.

“If the game is going to be financially supported, people have to see the advertising messages. That’s just how it works. We don’t want it to be intrusive and annoy the fans because nobody wants their advertising in front of an annoyed fanbase. It’s just about doing it in a way that is the least intrusive.”

10 also has the rights to Socceroos and Matildas matches and other international tournaments, including the AFC Champions League and English FA Cup, with football marking the network’s first serious foray into sports since it was taken over by US conglomerate Paramount (formerly ViacomCBS).

The AFL could be next. McGarvey and 10’s other co-CEO Jarrod Villani recently met with outgoing AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan in New York, as 10 and Paramount contemplates a big-money bid to take over from Fox Sports and Seven as that competition’s chief broadcaster from 2025 onwards - although she was reluctant to speak in detail about the meeting or 10’s ambitions.

“Given the nature of our business now in Australia, we have multiple platforms and multiple revenue streams, we would remain very interested in having a look at what else is out there,” McGarvey said. “And obviously the AFL is one of those things that is incredibly interesting, should it be genuinely available.

“The AFL is an Indigenous sport to Australia but given it is really high quality, incredibly premium, I do think there’s [an overseas] market for it, and I’d say that’s something that is really of interest to them, and something we could certainly bring to the table.”

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"One in every 24 Australians is now a member of an AFL club, a sign that the national reach of Australian football has never been greater," League CEO Gillon McLachlan said.
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