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Quolls2019 wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:01 pm
I always go for 1 day when it’s played at Royal Park and spent a Day at Port Melbourne when some games were played there in 2002.

I also saw the 2008 Grand Final between PNG vs Ireland at the MCG as a curtain raiser before a Hawks qualifying final.
Went to the 2011 series for a day and missed all the others.

I did not go to see the beginnings of an AFL world empire, I was interested in seeing how “foreigners” would play a foreign game in a foreign land. The standard was woeful in some games, and while nowhere near AFL, ok in others. Some individuals in The PNG, Ireland and US sides showed potential.

I was impressed with the improvement of the South African teams over the years and the Samoans got better every game.

But does Australian Rules challenge the other codes internationally, not on your Nellie. And will not.
But is the International Cup real? yep, seen it several times, plan to go again if I can.

Not a great standard but it was fun to watch and the teams involved took it very seriously, mostly.
What, you didn't record crowd numbers?
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Nope, I go to watch the game.

And I’m pretty sure most Aussie Rules fans didn’t/don’t realise it was/is on.
And out of the Rugby League core countries I think the interest would be the same.

And to reiterate, most Australian Rules fans don’t even think out the game not being international.
I prefer it not being (professionally) international for many reasons, but the prime being we get to keep our best players, you know the ones fans go to see.
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Agree on that. I mentioned a whole back talking to a rl fanatic in Thailand and it was his concern that if rl got bigger in England to the point where they could visibly offer more money that a lot of the stars would go.
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Fred wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:54 am
Agree on that. I mentioned a whole back talking to a rl fanatic in Thailand and it was his concern that if rl got bigger in England to the point where they could visibly offer more money that a lot of the stars would go.
at this point in time, in England this would be sometime if this did occur
I think both leagues would introduce quotas.
being only a number of players are aloud in the squad.

Currently English Super League already has this in place 5 players..

the NRL does not.

but point taken
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:25 pm
Fred wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:54 am
Agree on that. I mentioned a whole back talking to a rl fanatic in Thailand and it was his concern that if rl got bigger in England to the point where they could visibly offer more money that a lot of the stars would go.
at this point in time, in England this would be sometime if this did occur
I think both leagues would introduce quotas.
being only a number of players are aloud in the squad.

Currently English Super League already has this in place 5 players..

the NRL does not.

but point taken
That couldn’t apply to Toronto if they win promotion?

Toulouse would also have a problem making the quota.

Would brexit have an effect.

I found this whilst looking up info on quotas...I didn’t do it....


Exceptions
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There are three exceptions for a player to avoid quota player status. Those are listed below:

1. When a player has played for a rugby team for six years, he is eligible to gain British citizenship and does not count under the quota.

2. If the player has a passport for any EU nation or a Kolpak nation.

3. If the player is from a Kolpak nation such as Papua New Guinea, Samoa or Tonga.

4. Toronto Wolfpack are exempt every rule and can field whoever they like because they are trash and will win nothing.
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Quotas are for pussies.
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AngloFootballLeague wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:59 pm
Quotas are for pussies.
But that is what Super league has, so the English rugby league.......pussies?
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yeah i am unsure about Toronto in regards to players..

Toulouse should be ok, they have talent in France
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:23 pm
yeah i am unsure about Toronto in regards to players..

Toulouse should be ok, they have talent in France
Yeah, I had a look at their (Toulousej squad before my original post.
11 non French players on the main list.
Another 4 on what looks like a “reserve” list.
10 of the foreign players took the field against Featherstone last game.

The numbers are much higher than I thought.
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13 French players out of 17 for Dragons in last match.
Tony Gigot most likely in NRL next season.
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AngloFootballLeague wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:35 pm
13 French players out of 17 for Dragons in last match.
Tony Gigot most likely in NRL next season.
But that’s in super league, which has quotas, which according to you is for pussies.
and we were discussing the championship teams, Toronto and Toulouse, and what would happen if they got promoted to your pussie league.

So again your compression of what was being discussed is wanting.
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Quolls2019 wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:56 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:23 pm
yeah i am unsure about Toronto in regards to players..

Toulouse should be ok, they have talent in France
Yeah, I had a look at their (Toulousej squad before my original post.
11 non French players on the main list.
Another 4 on what looks like a “reserve” list.
10 of the foreign players took the field against Featherstone last game.

The numbers are much higher than I thought.
yeah interesting..

there is a few french players scattered throughout the super league.

I would assume some players would come back to france with a 2nd team..

(but regards to championship) with Toronto and Toulouse..

the League has never been in this position before..
i think they would have something in place.

what exactly they do have is the next question..
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17th September 2019 Drew Darbyshire Championship
Toronto will not take central distribution if they gain promotion to Super League
Super League chief executive Robert Elstone says Toronto would not take any central funding if they gain promotion to the top-flight.

The Wolfpack have self-funded the first three years of their existence but have covered the travelling costs of visiting teams to Canada.

Elstone has confirmed Toronto would continue to pay for expenses if they gain promotion to Super League this season – but they must also meet Super League criteria.
He said: “If Toronto win the right to be promoted, then they have to meet minimum standards.

“We are talking to the RFL about what they look like. We are seeking a number of assurances from the RFL and, if we get those and Toronto win that game, they are in.

“If they are in, they won’t be taking a central distribution. The Super League pot will be shared among 11 clubs.”

Elstone has also confirmed that loop fixtures will continue in 2020.

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Toronto are confident they will meet the criteria to be a Super League club – should they gain promotion.

The Wolfpack are just two games away from achieving promotion from the Championship to the top-flight.

However, Super League chief executive Robert Elstone revealed to the media on Monday that the Canadian club would need to provide documents to prove they are worthy of being a Super League club to get the green light.

Elstone said: “If Toronto win the right to be promoted, then they have to meet minimum standards.

“We are talking to the RFL about what they look like. We are seeking a number of assurances from the RFL and, if we get those and Toronto win that game, they are in.”
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Toronto are better off staying in DIV 2 for a few seasons while academy's are setup for development..

I know the better they get to super league the better income and exposure..

but for grassroots and development would be alot easier in DIV 2 to develop Canadians born players.
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20th September 2019 James Gordon Championship
Bradford chairman Andrew Chalmers says that Toronto’s entry criteria for Super League being different to other overseas clubs is “disturbing”.

Super League chief executive Robert Elstone confirmed earlier this week that the Wolfpack are yet to satisfy the requirements asked of them to be able to make the step up for 2020, should they earn promotion through the Championship play-offs.

Toronto chairman Bob Hunter responded by assuring that they have what it takes to satisfy the financial needs of Super League and its clubs.

Writing in his regular Telegraph & Argus column, Chalmers said: “It was disturbing to see the Super League chief Robert Elstone reportedly suggesting that Toronto would have different entry criteria to Super League than other overseas clubs.

“I certainly agree that English based RFL members should have a different set of rights from overseas non-members, but fail to see the justification for having different criteria for all overseas clubs.

“It appears that Toronto and Ottawa will be asked to forgo central distribution, and be asked to bear other financial burdens in order to participate in the RFL’s competitions. Doesn’t seem very equitable.

“The Championship and League 1 clubs certainly voted to support expansion of the competitions and unless the business models being offered about are sustainable, then potential club owners might well walk away from opportunities.

“The key question – does inclusion of off-shore clubs enhance the value proposition of the overall competition? Does Ottawa represent a greater value proposition than say Hemel or even Liverpool?

“It’s a simple answer. New markets, new tv audiences, new sponsors, new players. We are rugby clubs yes, but we are also businesses that need to survive in tough economic conditions, especially in the pre-Brexit austerity battered economy.”

It is believed that Toronto will be asked to forgo their central distribution money next season, with it being distributed to the other 11 Super League clubs, but that their rivals will have to pay for their trips to North America.

That differs from the previous three seasons, where the Wolfpack have previously covered all the costs of visiting teams to Lamport Stadium in the Championship and League 1.

Concerns have also been raised over fixture scheduling, with the weather in Toronto dictating that they have to play away from home until at least April, amidst a reluctance to allow them to play games in “blocks”.
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