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Post by pussycat » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:31 am

This time caught out fudging membership numbers [-(



Has Adelaide “fudged" their membership numbers?

By Kane Cornes 2019-01-15T09:30+11:00










Who is the biggest AFL club in the land? It’s always cause for hot debate.

When former Sydney CEO Andrew Ireland joined SEN SA Breakfast last week, he boldly declared that the Swans were the most popular AFL club in Australia.


He claimed the Swans had 1.3 million fans - 500,000 more than the second biggest AFL club, Collingwood.

An article in The Age newspaper last week stated that Richmond had already surpassed 75,000 members this year and are well on their way to smashing through the historic 100,000 membership milestone.

Other Melbourne clubs, Hawthorn (60,007), Essendon (51,011), Geelong (41,034) and Carlton (38,965) enter the new year with healthy figures, while Melbourne (30,096), North Melbourne (26,921), the Western Bulldogs (26,855) and St Kilda (25,500) remain in the middle band of the league membership tally.

Reigning premiers and West Australian power house, the Eagles, are already at 60,000 members, while 45,000 Docker members have already signed up to the struggling Perth rival.

Let’s now look to our South Australian clubs where the figures get really interesting.

According to The Age article, Port Adelaide sit just under 43,000 members. That’s of January 7th, 2019.

The Crows, in figures released to The Age, have 77,500 giving them the biggest membership base in the competition to this point in January.

The biggest club. Surprising isn’t it?

Well that’s because they have fudged the numbers.


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In a clear ploy to attract the sponsorship and corporate dollar as well as a strategic move to diminish Port Adelaide’s presence in the South Australian market, they have inexcusably included NON Financial “digital only” We Fly As One members.

These people don’t have to attend any games, or invest any money into the club to be included in these figures. The only benefit to them is a whopping 10% discount at the Crows merchandise store and they are included on the club’s bulk email list.

Some of you would say it’s just a number, who cares? What’s the big deal?

But supporters, sponsors and the football public actually believe this fairy-tale that the Crows are the biggest club in Australia and…. worse still…. almost DOUBLE the size of rival Port Adelaide in terms of fan base.

Let’s not forget that in April 2018, Adelaide revealed that its membership based had soared to just under 83,000. It was only later in the year, and after the AFL had actually cleaned up the data, that we realised Adelaide’s legitimate figure was in fact 64,000.

Of course the Official membership numbers will be released by the AFL later this year, and those numbers are impossible to fudge, but by that point the ship would have sailed.

Adelaide please, stop misleading us all.


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Post by AFLcrap1 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:00 am

AFL!
The code of lies


Metho madness.
Lol $10 NRL tickets.$10 NRL tickets .How pathetic is that ?
Crickets chirping after I post $5 AFlol tickets .
Self ownage ..no one does it better .

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Post by pussycat » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:13 am

With all the digital memberships and airline giveaways who knows what real numbers are?


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Post by Terry » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:23 am

Well knock me over with a feather!!!! AFL types lying and manipulating numbers...….who woulda thunk lololol???????

I'm still waiting for someone in the media to investigate the membership and crowd numbers GWS put out. As beautifully articulated by me previously their own financials show their claims to be massive lies. It seems incredible that no one call them out or scrutinises their figures.



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Post by NlolRL » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:55 am

Bloody crows! Good on Kane Cornes for outing the bastards
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Post by NlolRL » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:02 pm

Terry wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:23 am
Well knock me over with a feather!!!! AFL types lying and manipulating numbers...….who woulda thunk lololol???????

I'm still waiting for someone in the media to investigate the membership and crowd numbers GWS put out. As beautifully articulated by me previously their own financials show their claims to be massive lies. It seems incredible that no one call them out or scrutinises their figures.
From memory Wookie recently reviewed their figures again and decided they were reasonable



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Post by Terry » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:05 pm

NlolRL wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:02 pm
Terry wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:23 am
Well knock me over with a feather!!!! AFL types lying and manipulating numbers...….who woulda thunk lololol???????

I'm still waiting for someone in the media to investigate the membership and crowd numbers GWS put out. As beautifully articulated by me previously their own financials show their claims to be massive lies. It seems incredible that no one call them out or scrutinises their figures.
From memory Wookie recently reviewed their figures again and decided they were reasonable
Wookie actually berated me when I posted about it because I used some information he gave exposing the financial discrepancies. So unless he's changed his tune he agrees the books have been cooked.



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Post by Terry » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:08 pm

Here's the conversation below for reference:


The_Wookie » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:55 am
Terry wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:35 pm
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well fuck me its almost like I said this two days ago, and last year too. Im sure you did extensive research.
Geeeeezzzz.....what's ya problem pal? Cranky I got the annual reports off footyindustry? I stated where I got the info from.

Do you agree their membership and crowd numbers are BS?????
Like I said above, Ive said as much for some time. Why would I be cranky you got the annual reports off me? Thats why i buy the damn things - so they are available for everyone.



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Post by The_Wookie » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:26 pm

Adelaides problem is they count email list members - its a club promotional membership number - the AFL whittles this down when they do their mid year audit. its also not the revelation Cornes makes it out to be, this has been a thing at Adelaide since 2016.

The problem with GWS members is that the membership and gate figures didnt add up in 2017, but that seems to be because they include gate reciepts with their afl distributions.

Im writing something up about the Sydney football landscape at the moment.
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Post by notaleaguefan » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:16 am

The crows did make 23 odd million out of memberships and match days events!

So it’s not like the numbers have been totally cooked! Add in the fact it will be crap loads more any shit stain of a nrlol club would be making out of similar money streams!

Some figures from nrlol clubs would be nice! But seem difficult to obtain :mrgreen:



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