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Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:24 am
by Beaussie
Gee whiz, even the premiership winning Sharks couldn't post a profit in 2016. What a mess.
Sydney NRL clubs to lose a combined $34.1 million for 2016 season

SYDNEY based NRL clubs will lose a combined total of $34.1 million this season in continued worrying signs for the game.

Alarming figures show all Sydney clubs will operate at a loss for season 2016 where not even the premiership-winning Cronulla Sharks could post a profit.

Five of the nine Sydney franchises sank deeper into the red, headlined by the Eels and Canterbury, as it’s revealed collectively clubs will lose $4.5 million more than last year.

The Daily Telegraph last month reported Parramatta’s record loss of $11 million for the season, an increase of $3 million from the previous year.

While the Bulldogs’ $5.2 million loss will be offset by a $4 million League Club grant, it was $1.7 million more than 2015 and comes amid a massive clean-out of Des Hasler’s coaching staff.

In other figures set to be delivered to members or private owners:

* SOUTH Sydney suffered almost a $4 million downturn in fortunes after posting a healthy $1.4 million profit last year;
* THE Sharks performed the best, posting a loss of just $500,000 this year;
* THE Sydney Roosters will lose $3.2 million;
* ST GEORGE Illawarra lost $2 million which was underwritten by a Leagues Club grant;
* PRIVATELY owned Manly are $1.5 million in the red after being locked in a court dispute over alleged non-payment of a major sponsorship; and
* PENRITH and the Wests Tigers sustained operating losses of $5.4 million and $2.8 million respectively.

The Panthers are actually $1 million better off than 2015 but chief executive and chairman Brian Fletcher said the operating cost of Penrith’s Rugby League Academy, the investment in juniors and determination to be a powerhouse on the field meant the club was prepared to wear the financial burden.

“For us to try and perform at the highest level, we need to spend that sort of money,” Fletcher said. “We are different to other clubs. We have 8500 juniors, junior programs that we have to pay for and run, that aren’t subsidised by the NRL.

“We’ve also got to maintain Penrith Stadium, which costs between $500,000 and $750,000 a year for rent and upkeep.
“We also built the academy to improve the quality of our players — that’s not cheap to run either. We find it very difficult to get figure down but hopefully the new $4 million (funding from the new broadcasting deal), which was promised on top of our funding from 2018 will help break the back of that loss.”

Clubs continue to discuss funding and licences with the NRL, but Fletcher stressed any significant cash cutbacks would jeopardise the Panthers’ chances of succeeding on the field.

“If we have to spend $6 million to be competitive, so be it,” Fletcher said.

After being the sole Sydney club to post a profit last season, Rabbitohs chief executive Blake Solly put this year’s concerning financial result to several factors.

“We have traditionally been break-even or profitable over the last three to four years but we have made some investments into our football program and also into our new community high-performance centre at Heffron Park,” Solly said.

“We are on a slightly different footing to most Sydney clubs in that we don’t have a licenced club. That is why membership is a key to us. It is a huge contributor to our financial wellbeing.

“With 35,000 members, which we hope to get in 2017, we will back at break-even again and if we have an even better season on the field, we will certainly make a profit.”

Brisbane appear the only team to consistently post a profit.

Leagues Club grants helped the ease the financial pain of several Sydney clubs. The NRL cannot allow any club to fold given rugby league’s television broadcasters require eight games each week.

“Sustainability is the biggest issue in the game,” said one club chairman. “The game has to have eight games a week. Clubs have to be viable to deliver on our contractual obligations.”

The Eels season was a total disaster. In the letter to members last month, then interim Eels CEO Bevan Paul claimed the club’s losses were “clearly unacceptable and with the leagues club redevelopment scheduled to begin in early 2017 it is critical that Eels costs are constrained within the benchmarks of comparable NRL franchises.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 0b86a0afd0

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:05 am
by eelofwest
Stupid article that does not take into account the leagues clubs of all these clubs.

NRL does not have to pay a cent for any of these losses.

AFL on the other hand is loosing close to 25million a year on GCS, GWS alone.

Add in Brisbane lions losses of 4million and the AFL is loosing nearly 30m a year on these 3 northern clubs.

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:20 am
by Beaussie
eelofwest wrote:
Stupid article that does not take into account the leagues clubs of all these clubs.

NRL does not have to pay a cent for any of these losses.

AFL on the other hand is loosing close to 25million a year on GCS, GWS alone.

Add in Brisbane lions losses of 4million and the AFL is loosing nearly 30m a year on these 3 northern clubs.
Souths don't have a leagues club and leagues club grants are mentioned in the article.

Would also like to see some evidence of your assumptions made about the AFL clubs in the northern states.

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:08 am
by eelofwest
Beaussie wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
Stupid article that does not take into account the leagues clubs of all these clubs.

NRL does not have to pay a cent for any of these losses.

AFL on the other hand is loosing close to 25million a year on GCS, GWS alone.

Add in Brisbane lions losses of 4million and the AFL is loosing nearly 30m a year on these 3 northern clubs.
Souths don't have a leagues club and leagues club grants are mentioned in the article.

Would also like to see some evidence of your assumptions made about the AFL clubs in the northern states.
You do realize South Sydney are part owned by James Packer and Russel Crow?

Souths have made 1.5m -2.5m profits over the last 4 years, this was there first loss for quite some time.

Souths have huge backers so i am not sure what your getting at. Souths will not cost the NRL anything, compare that with what GWS GCS and Lions will cost the AFL. :lol: :lol:

Chalk and cheese.

As for GCS GWS Lions losses, i don't need to find any evidence, i am not your slave. Its all there in the Annual reports for these 3 clubs, find it yourself you lazy merkin.

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:11 pm
by AFLcrap1
Lol
The dumb fucks still cannot work out how the leagues club/ football club partnership works .

& then tries to score points by showing a club that has no leagues club but mega rich private owners .
Lol
Dumb doesn't begin to describe some fumblers in here

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:51 am
by PerfectToATee
Oh dear... No money, no juniors, no spectators. I think the time has come to appoint the administrators.

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:57 pm
by AFLcrap1
Lol so much Derp

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:20 pm
by leagueiscrap
bahahaha
every Sydney NRLOL club are financial shit shows!
it costs around half the cost to run a NRLOL club as to an AFL club.
playing in empty stadiums & having minnow fan bases doesnt help pay the bills

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:02 pm
by NRL&NFLweLaughATafl
Beaussie wrote:
Gee whiz, even the premiership winning Sharks couldn't post a profit in 2016. What a mess.
Sydney NRL clubs to lose a combined $34.1 million for 2016 season

SYDNEY based NRL clubs will lose a combined total of $34.1 million this season in continued worrying signs for the game.

Alarming figures show all Sydney clubs will operate at a loss for season 2016 where not even the premiership-winning Cronulla Sharks could post a profit.

Five of the nine Sydney franchises sank deeper into the red, headlined by the Eels and Canterbury, as it’s revealed collectively clubs will lose $4.5 million more than last year.

The Daily Telegraph last month reported Parramatta’s record loss of $11 million for the season, an increase of $3 million from the previous year.

While the Bulldogs’ $5.2 million loss will be offset by a $4 million League Club grant, it was $1.7 million more than 2015 and comes amid a massive clean-out of Des Hasler’s coaching staff.

In other figures set to be delivered to members or private owners:

* SOUTH Sydney suffered almost a $4 million downturn in fortunes after posting a healthy $1.4 million profit last year;
* THE Sharks performed the best, posting a loss of just $500,000 this year;
* THE Sydney Roosters will lose $3.2 million;
* ST GEORGE Illawarra lost $2 million which was underwritten by a Leagues Club grant;
* PRIVATELY owned Manly are $1.5 million in the red after being locked in a court dispute over alleged non-payment of a major sponsorship; and
* PENRITH and the Wests Tigers sustained operating losses of $5.4 million and $2.8 million respectively.

The Panthers are actually $1 million better off than 2015 but chief executive and chairman Brian Fletcher said the operating cost of Penrith’s Rugby League Academy, the investment in juniors and determination to be a powerhouse on the field meant the club was prepared to wear the financial burden.

“For us to try and perform at the highest level, we need to spend that sort of money,” Fletcher said. “We are different to other clubs. We have 8500 juniors, junior programs that we have to pay for and run, that aren’t subsidised by the NRL.

“We’ve also got to maintain Penrith Stadium, which costs between $500,000 and $750,000 a year for rent and upkeep.
“We also built the academy to improve the quality of our players — that’s not cheap to run either. We find it very difficult to get figure down but hopefully the new $4 million (funding from the new broadcasting deal), which was promised on top of our funding from 2018 will help break the back of that loss.”

Clubs continue to discuss funding and licences with the NRL, but Fletcher stressed any significant cash cutbacks would jeopardise the Panthers’ chances of succeeding on the field.

“If we have to spend $6 million to be competitive, so be it,” Fletcher said.

After being the sole Sydney club to post a profit last season, Rabbitohs chief executive Blake Solly put this year’s concerning financial result to several factors.

“We have traditionally been break-even or profitable over the last three to four years but we have made some investments into our football program and also into our new community high-performance centre at Heffron Park,” Solly said.

“We are on a slightly different footing to most Sydney clubs in that we don’t have a licenced club. That is why membership is a key to us. It is a huge contributor to our financial wellbeing.

“With 35,000 members, which we hope to get in 2017, we will back at break-even again and if we have an even better season on the field, we will certainly make a profit.”

Brisbane appear the only team to consistently post a profit.

Leagues Club grants helped the ease the financial pain of several Sydney clubs. The NRL cannot allow any club to fold given rugby league’s television broadcasters require eight games each week.

“Sustainability is the biggest issue in the game,” said one club chairman. “The game has to have eight games a week. Clubs have to be viable to deliver on our contractual obligations.”

The Eels season was a total disaster. In the letter to members last month, then interim Eels CEO Bevan Paul claimed the club’s losses were “clearly unacceptable and with the leagues club redevelopment scheduled to begin in early 2017 it is critical that Eels costs are constrained within the benchmarks of comparable NRL franchises.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 0b86a0afd0

Funny how you contradict yourself Beaussie. HEADLINE - Every NRL club is running at a loss. Then you say Brisbane is consistently posting a profit. :?>
Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you Beaussie. As far as I know Brisbane is an NRL club :lol:

Is actually quite amusing this post considering the AFL has spent 80 million in recent years to keep just the Brisbane Lions afloat and they still have a 13 million dollar debt. :mrgreen: That is more money than all the NRL clubs debts combined (80 millon). =D>

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:10 pm
by Beaussie
Read the thread title dopey. See Sydney there stupid? My god, how fucking stupid are you?

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:48 pm
by NRL&NFLweLaughATafl
Beaussie wrote:
Read the thread title dopey. See Sydney there stupid? My god, how fucking stupid are you?
Haha fair play my mistake and I am a dope for missing the word Sydney. :lol:

But AFL has spent a lot more than that propping up it's clubs.
You guys are struggling to support 2 QLD AFL clubs in just one state with little competion.

And your total AFL clubs debts are at around 41 million. Hardly thriving lol

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:01 pm
by Terry
Beaussie wrote:
Read the thread title dopey. See Sydney there stupid? My god, how fucking stupid are you?
Not as stupid as you ya first class rolled gold dill. How many times have you been told how NRL clubs operate with leagues clubs and private owners. Are you really that stupid or just willfully ignorant.

None of this supposed debt is paid by the NRL. Leagues clubs are, strangely enough, there to support, finance and promote RL as are private owners. This is how the business works. You have repeatedly told this ya fool.

Fumblehouse works on a system of smoke and mirrors. Grants cover financial shortfalls in failing clubs and masks massive operating losses. It is the usual fumbling theme of lies and obfuscation.

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:30 am
by Beaussie
Just posting what was reported in the media. You don't like the headline or reality... tough luck.

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:26 am
by pussycat
Beaussie wrote:
Just posting what was reported in the media. You don't like the headline or reality... tough luck.
The AFL clubs lost over $ 40m last year beau (or should I say Lic junior) and unlike the AFL figure which includes money made from gameing and clubs.

Re: Every NRL Club in Sydney operating at a loss

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:18 am
by Beaussie
pussycat wrote:
Beaussie wrote:
Just posting what was reported in the media. You don't like the headline or reality... tough luck.
The AFL clubs lost over $ 40m last year beau (or should I say Lic junior) and unlike the AFL figure which includes money made from gameing and clubs.
I'm not sure that's true, but willing to take that on board. Again however, I just posted a media article here about every Sydney NRL club running at a loss. I didn't write the bloody article. You leaguies are so touchy when it comes to revenue, profits and losses. I guess when you look at the AFL for comparison I can see why. Envy or jealousy?