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******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:21 am
by leagueiscrap
If you were given a dollar for everyone who asked Melbourne coach Craig Bellamy for a selfie or an autograph at the MCG Friday night, or shouted "Go Storm" as he walked past, you would have enough money to buy something really pricey ... like a ticket to the AFL grand final.

The Storm, who play a preliminary final against Canberra on Saturday night, have marketed themselves, intuitively rather than purposefully, as a Melbourne team, rather than an NRL one.





Nor can the Giants, hand on heart, declare themselves a team representative of Sydney's west when they are geographically ubiquitous. They have moved from their initial Blacktown base to Homebush and play three premiership games a season in Canberra.

Twenty seven million dollars were spent building them a base at Blacktown, where the then Rudd Government was impressed with the spiel that it had the highest concentration of Indigenous people in Australia.

They were given a further $45m in public funding when the subsequently disgraced NSW minister, Ian Macdonald, an AFL tragic, paid for an upgrade of Sydney Showground.

Nor are they deterred by a recent decision by the ACT Government, following community opposition, to defer a GWS-Grocon $800m "Manuka Green" bid, where $80m to $100m would be spent on re-developing Manuka Oval.

The AFL's born-to-rule arrogance was obvious when it decided to start a second team in Sydney, assuming Blacktown is the heart of what they call Greater Western Sydney.

The western suburbs region of Sydney is a vast, amorphous urban landscape, with multiple nodes.

Sure, Blacktown is midway between Penrith and Parramatta but what about Lidcombe, Liverpool, Campbelltown, the Blue Mountains and the rich vein of playing talent in the south west corridor, together with potential season ticket holders in the upper middle class suburbs of the Hills district.

The Giants don't belong to Sydney; they belong to the AFL who has subsidised them over $100m, gifted them No 1 draft choices, salary cap concessions and exclusive access to NSW regions to put them in a position where they can make the grand final after five years.

How would you feel if you were a follower of the Western Bulldogs who have made two grand finals in nearly 100 years?

No wonder almost all Melburnians, except the AFL, are cheering for the team who last made a grand final 55 years ago, against a team who could make it after five years.

Surely, the Bulldogs administration would be eyeing some of the Giants talent they are playing at Sydney's Showground (Spotless Stadium) and wonder whether it could have guaranteed a grand final berth.

But the Bulldogs won't say anything publicly because they rely on the AFL for additional funding.

The AFL ignore the Storm, while the Melbourne clubs embrace them. Bellamy was a guest of the Hawks at the MCG on Friday night where Lisa Alexander, Australia's netball coach, was interviewed at the pre-game dinner. The AFL's emcee mentioned how exciting it was for two new teams to be backed by AFL clubs – Collingwood and GWS – but no mention of the Storm and its Sunshine Coast netball team.

Storm captain, Cameron Smith, was also at the MCG. When he appears on Foxtel's AFL 360, the questions usually focus on his AFL team, the Hawks.

Storm chairman, Bart Campbell, has often said his club's aspiration is to hold the same place in the Melbourne sporting landscape as the Swans do in Sydney.

Compare this to the AFL chairman's recent sabre rattling of national domination.

OK, the Storm are 18 years old and the Giants only five.

But if you had a dollar for every Storm fan who outnumbers a Canberra supporter at AAMI Oark on Saturday night, discounted by the margin the Bulldogs followers exceed the Giants at Spotless, you'd have enough to buy two AFL grand final tickets.
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Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:24 am
by leagueiscrap
old roy trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm & down play the giants! AFL team & AFL helping the pathetic storms gain some support! given all their success still next to no one cares about them!

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:59 am
by Beaussie
I don't even get the point of old Roy's article. Melbourne Storm established by News Ltd and took players from Adelaide Rams, Western Reds, Hunter etc and somehow they are not a News Ltd/NRL creation. The bitter old fool is just upset at the Giants success in western Sydney me thinks. Pathetic journalism as usual form old Roy.

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:04 am
by Swans4ever
I really don't know what his point is???? Is he bashing the Storm? Giants? AFL? Or all three?? Me thinks he's like the Skyhook song living in the 70's. He still sees the NRL is the NSWRL and AFL Sth of the boarder!

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:09 am
by AFLcrap1
Lol
Roy upsets the southern hicks again .
Frothing & foaming .
Well done old fella

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:45 am
by leagueiscrap
AFLcrap1 wrote:
Lol
Roy upsets the southern hicks again .
Frothing & foaming .
Well done old fella
frothing and foaming like an nrlol fan waiting for the special needs nurse?


i do like the point how he is trying to put a positive spin on is the minnowbourne storm how irrelevant they are
how they are working with the AFL teams & appearing on the show 360.

eg nobody knows in melbourne there is a NRLOL final on featuring the storm. the ticket sales are really slow please help us out for some publicity.

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:06 am
by AFLcrap1
Lol
Clueless as usual

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:28 am
by pussycat
Quick , heads back in sand.

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:34 am
by Swans4ever
pussycat wrote:
Quick , heads back in sand.
Well what's his point that were ignoring?? I still can't work out what's he talking about - it also ignores many clubs that were made like the Warriors, Melb Storm, Perth Reds, Hunter Mariners, Bris Bronocs etc at the time they were made they Too were artificial but over time have built culture and history - so again explain what he's on about?

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:58 pm
by Fred
I have read it twice and it is a bit of an incoherent ramble with Masters appearing to try and maje a point but with little to go on or at least not enough to fulfil the word count required for his article. That is, he could have made the point I think he was trying to make in a few words.

As for storm. They get enough coverage for what is a minor sport in victoria. They have made a name and are doing okay. Also, when i see smith on 360 they do talk about the storm but they also ask him about AFL. He loves the game and is a big fan. He ans slater are rightly regarded as superior athletes and embraced as melbourne's own. Everyone loves a winner.

Back to the article i am not sure who Masters is taking a swipe at. Gws, storm, AFL, nrl. I got a sense that whilst he was be smirking Gws that he was also critical of the nrl not doing the same for the storm? Who knows

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:59 pm
by Swans4ever
Fred wrote:
I have read it twice and it is a bit of an incoherent ramble with Masters appearing to try and maje a point but with little to go on or at least not enough to fulfil the word count required for his article. That is, he could have made the point I think he was trying to make in a few words.

As for storm. They get enough coverage for what is a minor sport in victoria. They have made a name and are doing okay. Also, when i see smith on 360 they do talk about the storm but they also ask him about AFL. He loves the game and is a big fan. He ans slater are rightly regarded as superior athletes and embraced as melbourne's own. Everyone loves a winner.

Back to the article i am not sure who Masters is taking a swipe at. Gws, storm, AFL, nrl. I got a sense that whilst he was be smirking Gws that he was also critical of the nrl not doing the same for the storm? Who knows
Maybe he was hitting the bottle when he wrote this - it's very very very poorly written. I think he's cobbling together a number individual winged and trying to find a link and reaching a very abstract conclusion (if you can call it that). Just rambling really! :drunk: :drunk: :wink: :drunk:

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:03 pm
by post_hoc
Yea but is he wrong lol

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:39 pm
by Swans4ever
post_hoc wrote:
Yea but is he wrong lol
How can you tell if it's just a rant without a point......... a bit like saying Frank Lowry making millions out of all the kids playing dribble ball in Australia - we all know something's wrong or maybe we don't!

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:26 pm
by post_hoc
Swans4ever wrote:
post_hoc wrote:
Yea but is he wrong lol
How can you tell if it's just a rant without a point......... a bit like saying Frank Lowry making millions out of all the kids playing dribble ball in Australia - we all know something's wrong or maybe we don't!
Wow that's a big accusation, pointless asking if you got any evidence or slander something you like doing now?

Re: ******** roys old man rant! trying to pump up the minnowbourne storm

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:41 pm
by Swans4ever
post_hoc wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
post_hoc wrote:
Yea but is he wrong lol
How can you tell if it's just a rant without a point......... a bit like saying Frank Lowry making millions out of all the kids playing dribble ball in Australia - we all know something's wrong or maybe we don't!
Wow that's a big accusation, pointless asking if you got any evidence or slander something you like doing now?
Oh post hoc I'm being satyrical, like I said maybe is maybe isn't - it was a nonsense comparison to give example to Roy's rant!