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NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sinkhole

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:26 pm
by Beaussie
Gee, no such problems for the AFL after securing Australia's biggest ever broadcasting deal. How's your negotiations coming along leaguies?
Wayne Bennett warns NRL could be dead in 2025 unless ARLC hauls clubs out of debt crisis
Peter Badel
The Courier-Mail


WAYNE Bennett has warned the NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sinkhole.

The Courier-Mail can reveal Roosters supremo Nick Politis turned up the heat on NRL boss Dave Smith during a secret meeting of high-powered executives in Sydney last Friday. Smith was called to a five-star hotel in Sydney's CBD where he met for talks with Politis and leading NRL chairmen, including Canterbury’s Ray Dib and Melbourne’s Bart Campbell.

Politis expressed the sentiment that NRL clubs have reached a crisis-point in terms of funding. The collective debt levels of the 16 NRL clubs, excluding the safety-net of leagues-club funding, currently exceeds a staggering $30m — an average $1.875m deficit per club.
One chairman warned the total debt bill will get worse, saying: “Unless there are changes to the funding model, there won’t be 16 teams in the NRL.”


Broncos coach Bennett, whose counsel is privately sought on major NRL topics, believes the code could be ripped apart if the ARLC refuses to increase funding to the clubs. “My fear is, if we don’t do things properly this time, we won't have this game in 10 years’ time,” he said.

“You don’t throw money at clubs blindly without some performance indicators, but of course they need more. For the game to be strong and continue to grow, the clubs need help. It will slip away quickly I can tell you. It would be ideal for the clubs to be well-funded so they can pay their way and produce the football that keeps fans coming to the game. This is right across the game and we need to make some big decisions.”

According to the NRL’s 2014 annual report, the 16 clubs received $117.9m in funding last year — equating to 33 per cent of the code’s overall revenue of $350.9. The Courier-Mail understands Politis and a bloc of NRL chairmen are pushing for a future share of around 35 per cent. The club executives are also lobbying for an annual grant of $12-13 million by 2018, when the NRL salary cap will be increased to around $10m.

Such a scenario would create a $2-3 million surplus for each team, a financial buffer chairmen argue will save clubs from going bankrupt. A Sydney-based NRL chairman said: “Most of the clubs are running at a loss, the reality is we are going to lose $30 million this year collectively and that is worse than last year.

“The clubs’ viability is the No. 1 challenge for the NRL. Channel Nine are paying for at least 16 teams, but there is no guarantee there will be that many if things continue the way they are.” Broncos legend Darren Lockyer said the NRL needed to cater for the needs of the clubs before worrying about increasing player wages.

“We have players and clubs crying out for more coin,” he said. “Everyone needs to sit down and work out what’s fair. There’s only a few clubs profitable in the NRL. Clubs need more money in their grant.”

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl ... 7530790648

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:44 pm
by eelofwest
AFL club debt 100million+
NRL Club debt 30million

AFL clubs debt 3 times larger than NRL clubs.

Need to do your research champ. Another self ownage thread from you... :lol: :lol: =D>

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:18 pm
by AFLcrap1
Lol @ fumble fans .
Oh & Bea seeing as you asked about how the media deal is going maybe you can stay & answer a question instead of running like a dog when threads you start backfire spectacularly .

Um so far the deal is very good .
Only part finalised to date is FTA .
& it is a far better FTA deal than AFLOL got .
Don't you agree .
We can only compare on parts that are finalised & the NRL is in front .

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:25 pm
by AFLcrap1
The overall health of AFL clubs diminished last year with club debt swelling alarmingly to $91.5 million.

As well, clubs combined to collectively lose more than $3m, which was a $9m turnaround from 2013.

In confidential AFL figures obtained by The Australian, the negative overall club result would have been far worse if it were not for the huge profits of West Coast and Hawthorn.

In official 2014 operating-profit figures determined by the league, the Eagles recorded a positive result of $4.4m with the Hawks making $4m.

At the other end of the scale, St Kilda lost $3.9m, $400,000 more than Brisbane, which has already been handed an extra $2m in emergency funding, outside the normal channels, to stay afloat this year.

The Lions, despite a hat-trick of premierships from 2001, have never recovered from a stock exchange disaster that saw them lose $3.5m almost 10 years ago. The beleaguered club now carries the biggest individual club debt — $13.3m — which is $700,000 more than the Western Bulldogs.

Clubs are expecting tough times again this year, with up to eight forecasting losses again. The Saints have budgeted for a $2.2mn loss, as have Carlton, who are facing a loss considerably more than initially forecast.

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:25 am
by leagueiscrap
AFLcrap1 wrote:
The overall health of AFL clubs diminished last year with club debt swelling alarmingly to $91.5 million.

As well, clubs combined to collectively lose more than $3m, which was a $9m turnaround from 2013.

In confidential AFL figures obtained by The Australian, the negative overall club result would have been far worse if it were not for the huge profits of West Coast and Hawthorn.

In official 2014 operating-profit figures determined by the league, the Eagles recorded a positive result of $4.4m with the Hawks making $4m.

At the other end of the scale, St Kilda lost $3.9m, $400,000 more than Brisbane, which has already been handed an extra $2m in emergency funding, outside the normal channels, to stay afloat this year.

The Lions, despite a hat-trick of premierships from 2001, have never recovered from a stock exchange disaster that saw them lose $3.5m almost 10 years ago. The beleaguered club now carries the biggest individual club debt — $13.3m — which is $700,000 more than the Western Bulldogs.

Clubs are expecting tough times again this year, with up to eight forecasting losses again. The Saints have budgeted for a $2.2mn loss, as have Carlton, who are facing a loss considerably more than initially forecast.
Lol what's the nrlols clubs from ability to raise money compared to the Alfs clubs?

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:46 pm
by The axe
AFLcrap1 wrote:
The overall health of AFL clubs diminished last year with club debt swelling alarmingly to $91.5 million.

As well, clubs combined to collectively lose more than $3m, which was a $9m turnaround from 2013.

In confidential AFL figures obtained by The Australian, the negative overall club result would have been far worse if it were not for the huge profits of West Coast and Hawthorn.

In official 2014 operating-profit figures determined by the league, the Eagles recorded a positive result of $4.4m with the Hawks making $4m.

At the other end of the scale, St Kilda lost $3.9m, $400,000 more than Brisbane, which has already been handed an extra $2m in emergency funding, outside the normal channels, to stay afloat this year.

The Lions, despite a hat-trick of premierships from 2001, have never recovered from a stock exchange disaster that saw them lose $3.5m almost 10 years ago. The beleaguered club now carries the biggest individual club debt — $13.3m — which is $700,000 more than the Western Bulldogs.

Clubs are expecting tough times again this year, with up to eight forecasting losses again. The Saints have budgeted for a $2.2mn loss, as have Carlton, who are facing a loss considerably more than initially forecast.
Stick to the topic, the article had nothing to do with AFL finances, Hypocrite.

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:18 pm
by pussycat
The topic? how can anyone but the most demented of ******** take this seriously when there clubs have 3 x the level of debt?

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:38 pm
by AFLcrap1
The axe wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
The overall health of AFL clubs diminished last year with club debt swelling alarmingly to $91.5 million.

As well, clubs combined to collectively lose more than $3m, which was a $9m turnaround from 2013.

In confidential AFL figures obtained by The Australian, the negative overall club result would have been far worse if it were not for the huge profits of West Coast and Hawthorn.

In official 2014 operating-profit figures determined by the league, the Eagles recorded a positive result of $4.4m with the Hawks making $4m.

At the other end of the scale, St Kilda lost $3.9m, $400,000 more than Brisbane, which has already been handed an extra $2m in emergency funding, outside the normal channels, to stay afloat this year.

The Lions, despite a hat-trick of premierships from 2001, have never recovered from a stock exchange disaster that saw them lose $3.5m almost 10 years ago. The beleaguered club now carries the biggest individual club debt — $13.3m — which is $700,000 more than the Western Bulldogs.

Clubs are expecting tough times again this year, with up to eight forecasting losses again. The Saints have budgeted for a $2.2mn loss, as have Carlton, who are facing a loss considerably more than initially forecast.
Stick to the topic, the article had nothing to do with AFL finances, Hypocrite.
Lol .hi Axey .
How was therapy .

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:15 am
by leagueiscrap
pussycat wrote:
The topic? how can anyone but the most demented of ******** take this seriously when there clubs have 3 x the level of debt?
Go and bring some financials up of some nrlol clubs pissycat the ill post some of some AFL clubs!
Then you might get an idea why the nrlols club debts are more amusingly! In that article some of the debts are from building new training facilities and its pubs and clubs. That figure of the nrlols debt levels does not include any figures

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:22 pm
by The axe
AFLcrap1 wrote:
The axe wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
The overall health of AFL clubs diminished last year with club debt swelling alarmingly to $91.5 million.

As well, clubs combined to collectively lose more than $3m, which was a $9m turnaround from 2013.

In confidential AFL figures obtained by The Australian, the negative overall club result would have been far worse if it were not for the huge profits of West Coast and Hawthorn.

In official 2014 operating-profit figures determined by the league, the Eagles recorded a positive result of $4.4m with the Hawks making $4m.

At the other end of the scale, St Kilda lost $3.9m, $400,000 more than Brisbane, which has already been handed an extra $2m in emergency funding, outside the normal channels, to stay afloat this year.

The Lions, despite a hat-trick of premierships from 2001, have never recovered from a stock exchange disaster that saw them lose $3.5m almost 10 years ago. The beleaguered club now carries the biggest individual club debt — $13.3m — which is $700,000 more than the Western Bulldogs.

Clubs are expecting tough times again this year, with up to eight forecasting losses again. The Saints have budgeted for a $2.2mn loss, as have Carlton, who are facing a loss considerably more than initially forecast.
Stick to the topic, the article had nothing to do with AFL finances, Hypocrite.
Lol .hi Axey .
How was therapy .
Stop deflecting and stick to the topic, I ask no more of you than you ask of others. Hypocrite.

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:47 pm
by AFLcrap1
Lol .
That's hysterical coming from you .

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:01 pm
by The axe
AFLcrap1 wrote:
Lol .
That's hysterical coming from you .
Double standards big guy, I'm happy to point out yours and unlike some ill be happy to put my hand up and except fault if any is proven on my behalf.

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:11 pm
by AFLcrap1
Lol .
How was therapy last week ?

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:50 pm
by The axe
AFLcrap1 wrote:
Lol .
How was therapy last week ?
So you can't point out any examples of hypocrisy on my part,not that hilarious after all. Double standards big guy.

Re: NRL could be dead within a decade unless the ARL Commission helps haul cash-strapped clubs out of a $30 million sink

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:10 am
by AFLcrap1
Already have .