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AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:04 pm
by leagueiscrap
FOR seven days, NRL boss Dave Smith must have thought his spring had come early. A new free-to-air television rights deal with Channel Nine, carved out much earlier than anyone had expected, was trumpeted from his Moore Park rooftop.

Smith had snuck in under the radar of Fox Sports and Nine’s other two free-to-air competitors, Channels Seven and Ten. He had done the deal in secret, not even informing long time partners Foxtel of what was coming.

So smug was Smith about the deal that he told anyone who would listen that Foxtel would now have no choice but to jump on and pay top dollar for the dregs of the games.

Above all, he had triumphed by announcing the deal, all on his own and with great fanfare, on the same day that Rupert Murdoch hosted his international News Corporation board at a flash Sydney lunch.

Smith attended the lunch, attracting attention for leaving early with a smug smile on his face. The humiliation for Foxtel and News was complete.

Today, Smith and his chairman, John Grant stand badly gazumped, scoring what one media veteran described as the “worst own goal” in the sport’s history.

In what can only be described as the greatest rub your nose in it media conference in Australian sport, Murdoch changed his travel plans to be part of the Melbourne AFL show that should sound the death knell for Smith and Grant.

The biggest free-to-air deal in Australian professional sport and pay television’s largest commitment to any football code is a sign that Foxtel will not be bullied into paying top dollar for the four worst league games each weekend.

It is also apparent that New South Wales and Queensland are on notice — AFL is only going to get bigger, the back-up is coming from the media juggernauts at Seven and Foxtel, and the only loser will be rugby league.

While Smith handed the keys to the treasure chest to Channel Nine, effectively giving David Gyngell the (now apparently too cheap) right to use the television games however he liked, the error of his ways has slowly started to sink in.

While he is saving face by claiming he will outplay Foxtel in a game of brinkmanship, there is now no doubt that the money he expected to drop into the NRL’s account will be way short of the billion dollars he needs to bring this deal up to anywhere near the big AFL numbers.

By completely ignoring partners Foxtel and Telstra, Smith has thrown the baby out with the bathwater.

His refusal to allow Channels Seven and Nine to compete for a game, and offering just about everything worthwhile to Gyngell, means he has cheapened his product enormously. Both channels asked for the right to present to Smith. He ignored them.

f Channel Nine decides to rid itself of a game or two, and sell them to Seven or Ten, the only winner will be the network, not rugby league. Gyngell is now a wholesaler able to flog a product at top dollar without any input from the body that owns it.

Not only that. The 16 league clubs will have to wait a year longer than the AFL clubs to share in the windfall. Little wonder 12 of them are seriously considering not signing their participation agreements.

So why take such a huge risk? Smith did not need to do this, a full eighteen months before a decision was due. He could have waited, consulted and listened to what every broadcaster had to offer.

I’m told he was so desperate to do the deal with Nine that he even left his senior corporate advisers out of discussions at the end.

Rupert Murdoch fought tooth and nail to own rugby league and to control the television rights into perpetuity. He showed he would pay through the nose for them too.

Now he has switched his allegiances and made it clear league is a poor relation. You can say what you like about media moguls but professional football needs them to come up with the killer dollars to survive.

One former NRL board member was in a state of shock when last week’s deal was sealed and heralded as a victory for the code. It has taken just one week and several very cranky media owners to confirm that he was right. The league deal stinks and Smith, as its architect, must now face the consequences.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 7490104634

basement dwellers, insert the "but but but" "lies lies lies" & deflections bellow :)))

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:14 pm
by AFLcrap1
Oh my .
How old is this article .
& we don't have to But but .

News stories have been exposed as 100% bullshit about the rights . SL again. Lol
Telstra not interested ....lol .

Only dumb ...& I mean braindead dumb fucks believe them ..



Hi dumbo .

Try to keep up dumbo

& dumbo .
The only part of the deal done is the FTA part .
& it smashes the AFLOL FTA deal .
Lol lol .

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:17 pm
by leagueiscrap
AFLcrap1 wrote:
Oh my .
How old is this article .
& we don't have to But but .

News stories have been exposed as 100% bullshit about the rights . SL again. Lol
Telstra not interested ....lol .

Only dumb ...& I mean braindead dumb fucks believe them ..



Hi dumbo .

Try to keep up dumbo

& dumbo .
The only part of the deal done is the FTA part .
& it smashes the AFLOL FTA deal .
Lol lol .
truth hurts doesnt it spazza!
oh well the AFL keeps going ahead leaps and bounds and the poor little NRLOL getting left behind :cheers:

do you have the capability to actually address the article or just ramble on with irrelevant dribble :thumbleft:

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:23 pm
by AFLcrap1
See this is why you get laughed at .
I answered yet you claim I am dribbling .


Tell me which code got the best FTA deal .
That's on topic but you won't talk about it .


How can you address an article that is full of bullshit .


Just the 2Nd paragraph is a 100% lie .
There were over 30 meetings/emails/ph conversations etc with fox/news ltd .
They were stalling for the ACCC outcome of the buy into 10
That way they could make a low offer .
FOX would only partner 10 & would shut out 9

Fox stalled. Smith went ahead k negotiated with 9

So dumbo if you want to discuss the rights get to your facts right .

This is utter drivel ,but you believe it



Smith had snuck in under the radar of Fox Sports and Nine’s other two free-to-air competitors, Channels Seven and Ten. He had done the deal in secret, not even informing long time partners Foxtel of what was coming.



Can you tell me how the deal is so bad when only the FTA component is finalised .
& it's far better than the FTA AFLOL deal

Why do you keep ignoring this .
Is it because your fantasies will vanish if you acknowledge that the NRL has done far better in the only part of the deal that is finalised .

Your deflection from this point tells me everything I need to know .

You're full of shit as usual .

If by some miracle you do answer ,then we can discuss the Telstra lie .
Which has been refuted. By Telstra .

Over to you dumbo .

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:58 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
The reason I don't post as much here anymore is simply because I don't really want to be associated with that dumbarse drongo LIC, a dumber person on the net I have never come across and there have been quite a few like Kovana and Polly Waffle over the years.

Lift your game you thickheaded fuckwit.

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:00 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
You really are a ****, and that's being nice.

You're either a **** or you are drunk 24/7.

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:37 pm
by leagueiscrap
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
The reason I don't post as much here anymore is simply because I don't really want to be associated with that dumbarse drongo LIC, a dumber person on the net I have never come across and there have been quite a few like Kovana and Polly Waffle over the years.

Lift your game you thickheaded fuckwit.
take your meds dipshit, amy negative article about the little pissant NRLOL seems you lot callie lies lies & having dummy spits!
if you dont like posting here thats good! its one less fuck tarrd clogging up the threads with dribble

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:46 pm
by AFLcrap1
Dumbo you are ignoring my post .
You said discuss the article .
I have .
All you do is rant .
It's all you do .
Deflect ,tell lies & then run like a dog .

Now let's discuss the article .
Firstly ...fox were not shut out .

That's wrong .

Telstra are still negotiating & have refuted the lie that news printed .


The 12 clubs not signing is bullshit ...they have said so .


& lastly dumbo for the last time who got the bigger FTA deal

Your deflection will show that you are too scared to admit that the only part of the NRL deal finalised is far bigger than the AFLOL FTA deal .

Over to you .
I expect the usual running like a dog with a basement rant thrown in .

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:47 pm
by leagueiscrap
AFLcrap1 wrote:
See this is why you get laughed at .
I answered yet you claim I am dribbling .


Tell me which code got the best FTA deal .
That's on topic but you won't talk about it .


How can you address an article that is full of bullshit .


Just the 2Nd paragraph is a 100% lie .
There were over 30 meetings/emails/ph conversations etc with fox/news ltd .
They were stalling for the ACCC outcome of the buy into 10
That way they could make a low offer .
FOX would only partner 10 & would shut out 9

Fox stalled. Smith went ahead k negotiated with 9

So dumbo if you want to discuss the rights get to your facts right .

This is utter drivel ,but you believe it



Smith had snuck in under the radar of Fox Sports and Nine’s other two free-to-air competitors, Channels Seven and Ten. He had done the deal in secret, not even informing long time partners Foxtel of what was coming.



Can you tell me how the deal is so bad when only the FTA component is finalised .
& it's far better than the FTA AFLOL deal

Why do you keep ignoring this .
Is it because your fantasies will vanish if you acknowledge that the NRL has done far better in the only part of the deal that is finalised .

Your deflection from this point tells me everything I need to know .

You're full of shit as usual .

If by some miracle you do answer ,then we can discuss the Telstra lie .
Which has been refuted. By Telstra .

Over to you dumbo .
:blahblah: :blahblah: best FTA deal
and pissing off the other broadcast services in the mean time! you think Telstra,netflix, fox etc are going pay top dollar for left over crap!

if its such a great deal and Smith is doing such a great job thats why up to 12 of the NRLOL clubs are disgruntles with Smith :)))

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:51 pm
by AFLcrap1
Oh my .
You are too thick to get it .

You are basing your arguments on news ltd lies .

Fuck they have been shown up as full of shit over & over ,yet you treat it as gospel .

I don't know why I waste time setting you straight .
You are too fucking dense for anything to to get through .

Yes there are clubs who are disgruntled .
But it has nothing to do with the deal .

Just like disgruntled clubs in any sport .

Look at fat racist mcChins ..all he does is bitch .
The meeting was the usual scheduled meeting that the ARLc has with the clubs .
Yet news ltd made out it was a crisis meeting over the deal .
Now let's discuss why they would be lying .

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:52 pm
by pussycat
45% of the Vicheads total already, still Fox, Telstra and international rights to come. Just how stupid are these people??????????????????

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:24 pm
by AFLcrap1
pussycat wrote:
45% of the Vicheads total already, still Fox, Telstra and international rights to come. Just how stupid are these people??????????????????
Yep & not one of them is capable of answering the question I keep asking .

They continually talk about Fox not paying much as they will have NO competition in bidding(that remains to be seen) ....but let's say there is no one...only fox .
The theory is the NRL won't get too much as there is no competition .

My question is who the fuck was in competition with fox for the NON FTA games of AFL .

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:11 pm
by The axe
AFLcrap1 wrote:
pussycat wrote:
45% of the Vicheads total already, still Fox, Telstra and international rights to come. Just how stupid are these people??????????????????
Yep & not one of them is capable of answering the question I keep asking .

They continually talk about Fox not paying much as they will have NO competition in bidding(that remains to be seen) ....but let's say there is no one...only fox .
The theory is the NRL won't get too much as there is no competition .

My question is who the fuck was in competition with fox for the NON FTA games of AFL .
Not getting your questions answered, that must be frustrating for you.

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:07 pm
by precarious
AFLcrap1 wrote:
Yep & not one of them is capable of answering the question I keep asking .

They continually talk about Fox not paying much as they will have NO competition in bidding(that remains to be seen) ....but let's say there is no one...only fox .
The theory is the NRL won't get too much as there is no competition .

My question is who the fuck was in competition with fox for the NON FTA games of AFL .
My answer would be that negotiating pay TV and FTA together made it more difficult for either News or Seven to pay unders for the AFL rights. The AFL negotiators could threaten to give more to Seven unless News paid x or vice versa.

It is similar to the NRL not wanting to sell the streaming rights separately from the pay TV rights.

In his national press club talk, McLachlan said that the AFL negotiators had considered it beneficial to negotiate the entire rights all at once but that if they'd felt they had to, they would have done what the NRL negotiators had done. To me this suggests that negotiating FTA separately was probably not ideal for the NRL but became the best alternative given the negotiating tactics of Nine, News and others.

Just guessing, but to me the NRL's negotiating position with News does not seem a strong one.

Even so, maybe the strategy enabled more to be extracted from Nine than would otherwise have been the case. (?)

Re: AFL’s TV rights deal makes NRL CEO Dave Smith’s Channel Nine agreement look like an ‘own goal’

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:13 am
by AFLcrap1
The axe wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
pussycat wrote:
45% of the Vicheads total already, still Fox, Telstra and international rights to come. Just how stupid are these people??????????????????
Yep & not one of them is capable of answering the question I keep asking .

They continually talk about Fox not paying much as they will have NO competition in bidding(that remains to be seen) ....but let's say there is no one...only fox .
The theory is the NRL won't get too much as there is no competition .

My question is who the fuck was in competition with fox for the NON FTA games of AFL .
Not getting your questions answered, that must be frustrating for you.
Not really .
I'm used to it with fumblers .

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