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NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:18 am
by Xman
OPINION: In case you haven't heard, there's a Rugby League World Cup on.

Earlier today, the Kiwis squared off against England at London's Wembley Stadium in one of the semifinals while the Aussies took on the surprise packets, Fiji, in the other.

And by the time you read this, the Kiwis will either be preparing to meet the Aussies in the decider at Old Trafford next week or jumping on a plane bound for home.

For the last month or so, diehard league fans have been getting up early and tuning in to the northern hemisphere to watch the New Zealanders easily sweep aside their rivals.

But the sad fact of the matter is that before last week, most sports fans couldn't have cared less about this tournament.

That's the nature of this World Cup, where too many meaningless games are played in which the result is a foregone conclusion before a single ball has been kicked in anger.

It was never in doubt that Australia, England and New Zealand would make it this far in a tournament that doesn't really deserve to be called a World Cup.

As I've said before, this is a "Heritage Cup", where players have represented nations on the basis of family ties that could be described as tenuous at best.

Throughout the tournament, we've seen press releases from the organisers, celebrating ticket sales, fan attendances and touting the quality of the footy.

But, as much as it pains me to say this, you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.

What's clear is that international rugby league is broken. It's a joke and so is the organisation charged with running it, the Rugby League International Federation (RLIF).

For too long, international rugby league has been run by muppets, who seem more interested in attending functions in their blazers than worrying about the quality of their product.

With infighting behind closed doors, political point-scoring and egos getting in the way all the time, the international game has suffered immensely.

And now it's time to do something about it.

It may be an unpopular thing to say but the RLIF needs to be scrapped and we must hand the responsibility of running international rugby league, not to mention the World Cup, to the NRL Commission.

Give the Aussies more power, you ask? And isn't the international game run by a Kiwi in NZRL chairman Scott Carter?

Yes, and yes. But before you run me out of town, here's the method behind my so-called madness.

The NRL already provides the bulk of the players for the World Cup. In this year's tournament, a staggering 174 players from either the NRL or the Holden Cup were selected by various nations. That's not even counting the 17 or so from Australia's state competition who have also taken part in the tournament.

Then there's the small matter of commercial nous - something the NRL clearly boasts.

The RLIF, meanwhile, is severely lacking in that department.

Carter is out of his depth and has bigger issues to worry about - namely running the NZRL - than the international game. He needs to step aside.

And the same could be said for the English, who have massive problems to sort out right now in regards to their Super League competition.

The last thing they need to be worrying about is mapping out the future.

That leaves the Aussies. Their team is one of the best in the world, their competition is undoubtedly the best in the world and, most importantly, it's a commercial success.

The international game needs some direction and the NRL Commission is the perfect organisation to give it that.

Just look at State of Origin and what a wonderful product it is. It's exciting, regularly cited as the best rugby league in the world by the players, and it's a commercial success.

Why? Because the NRL Commission gives it the love and attention it deserves.

The days of blazer-wearing board members strutting about, chests puffed out while scoffing hors d'oeuvres at international rugby league functions are over.

It's time the game got with the professional era and it's time for those who are out of their depth to fall on their swords.

The international game is a joke. The NRL Commission could easily change that.

- © Fairfax NZ News
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/94 ... gue-a-joke

Ouch

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:22 am
by Xman
But at least this kiwi supports it...I think :?>
It doesn't have playing numbers throughout the world, there are not many countries with viable competitions (if at all) but there is no reason why rugby league cannot stage a credible World Cup.

There are many with an opinion that it's a waste of time and just a tournament filled with Australians, Polynesians and New Zealanders. So what? There have been some very good games and despite scorelines blowing out, those same games have been extremely competitive and entertaining.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=11162044

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:27 am
by NRLCrap1
you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig
QFT!!!!!

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:31 am
by Beaussie
Australia 64 def Fiji 0 in the semi final

and they want to add Fiji to their 4 nations farce. :(/ :(/ :(/

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:07 pm
by Raiderdave
hmmmm


they're talking of nothing else in NZ today I'm reliably informed , but last nights epic semi
the Blicks played last night
& yet the Kiwis are the talk of the shakey isles as they were when they beat the Kangaroos for the world cup 5 years ago

great stuff
what a world cup =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

meanwhile fumblers are watching a ladyboy convention for some reason :?>
:(/ :(/ :(/ :lol: :lol: :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:33 pm
by cos789
Xman wrote:
OPINION: In case you haven't heard, there's a Rugby League World Cup on.

Earlier today, the Kiwis squared off against England at London's Wembley Stadium in one of the semifinals while the Aussies took on the surprise packets, Fiji, in the other.

And by the time you read this, the Kiwis will either be preparing to meet the Aussies in the decider at Old Trafford next week or jumping on a plane bound for home.

For the last month or so, diehard league fans have been getting up early and tuning in to the northern hemisphere to watch the New Zealanders easily sweep aside their rivals.

But the sad fact of the matter is that before last week, most sports fans couldn't have cared less about this tournament.

That's the nature of this World Cup, where too many meaningless games are played in which the result is a foregone conclusion before a single ball has been kicked in anger.

It was never in doubt that Australia, England and New Zealand would make it this far in a tournament that doesn't really deserve to be called a World Cup.

As I've said before, this is a "Heritage Cup", where players have represented nations on the basis of family ties that could be described as tenuous at best.

Throughout the tournament, we've seen press releases from the organisers, celebrating ticket sales, fan attendances and touting the quality of the footy.

But, as much as it pains me to say this, you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.

What's clear is that international rugby league is broken. It's a joke and so is the organisation charged with running it, the Rugby League International Federation (RLIF).

For too long, international rugby league has been run by muppets, who seem more interested in attending functions in their blazers than worrying about the quality of their product.

With infighting behind closed doors, political point-scoring and egos getting in the way all the time, the international game has suffered immensely.

And now it's time to do something about it.

It may be an unpopular thing to say but the RLIF needs to be scrapped and we must hand the responsibility of running international rugby league, not to mention the World Cup, to the NRL Commission.

Give the Aussies more power, you ask? And isn't the international game run by a Kiwi in NZRL chairman Scott Carter?

Yes, and yes. But before you run me out of town, here's the method behind my so-called madness.

The NRL already provides the bulk of the players for the World Cup. In this year's tournament, a staggering 174 players from either the NRL or the Holden Cup were selected by various nations. That's not even counting the 17 or so from Australia's state competition who have also taken part in the tournament.

Then there's the small matter of commercial nous - something the NRL clearly boasts.

The RLIF, meanwhile, is severely lacking in that department.

Carter is out of his depth and has bigger issues to worry about - namely running the NZRL - than the international game. He needs to step aside.

And the same could be said for the English, who have massive problems to sort out right now in regards to their Super League competition.

The last thing they need to be worrying about is mapping out the future.

That leaves the Aussies. Their team is one of the best in the world, their competition is undoubtedly the best in the world and, most importantly, it's a commercial success.

The international game needs some direction and the NRL Commission is the perfect organisation to give it that.

Just look at State of Origin and what a wonderful product it is. It's exciting, regularly cited as the best rugby league in the world by the players, and it's a commercial success.

Why? Because the NRL Commission gives it the love and attention it deserves.

The days of blazer-wearing board members strutting about, chests puffed out while scoffing hors d'oeuvres at international rugby league functions are over.

It's time the game got with the professional era and it's time for those who are out of their depth to fall on their swords.

The international game is a joke. The NRL Commission could easily change that.

- © Fairfax NZ News
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/94 ... gue-a-joke

Ouch
Pretty much sums it up. Maybe I wouldn't be glowing so much about the nrl being a commercial success and you might argue the nrl has it's own set of problems.

It is quite clear that in trying to have a WC like it's big brother RU, rl has produced another snorefest.
People have made legitmate suggestions which basically amounts to separating the top three countries.

It's interesting because we here so much talk of there should be an Australian side in the IC
and the definite feedback from the rlwc is that it is counter productive to have big miss matches.
IMO the RUWC just manages to have a vibrant WC because it breaks the UK down into it's member countries to produce a sufficient number of reasonably even competitive teams at the top end.
The AFL IC by excluding Australia, has a great competition with a two division setup.
The rlwc, suffers from Australia being much too dominant with only two challengers before falling
away to an IC type affair. That's not so bad news if rl is willing to modify it's approach as suggested in some articles.

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:09 pm
by AFLcrap1
Hey Cos can you tell me why you claim there are 700 fumblers in France ,when the bloke running it says 200..

I think the lies about international fumbleball spread by you & others shows what a joke your game is internationally.

You are like a bloke with no feet ,complaining about the choice of shoes worn by your neighbour

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:25 pm
by NRLCrap1
Raiderdave wrote:
hmmmm


they're talking of nothing else in NZ today I'm reliably informed
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YOU???? RELIABLY INFORMED????

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You wouldn't know a traffic accident from a thunderstorm, Dave!

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:09 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
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Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:47 pm
by NRLCrap1
Thank you! Thank you very much! :P :P :P :P :P

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:00 pm
by Fred
I thought the same when I read that ... When Dave says he is reliably informed what he is saying is "I think "

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:51 pm
by pHyR3
oh well about the 64-0. Fiji played abysmally and Australia played stunningly. they should take it out, this would be their strongest team ever. And also NZs strongest team ever (but that's not saying much as they've only been somewhat decent in the last 10 years).

tournament has been great, couldn't really care what a kiwi union supporter journo has to say.

67k at Wembley, i think pretty much every ticket sold for Old Trafford (~75k) bringing total attendance to either equal or just above 2008 average attendance which is great considering it's in the UK and quite a few matches were sold out, mostly England's games and that Fiji one at Rochdale.

it's about bringing RL into the international picture. Not going from a joke in 2000 and before to some elite competition in 2013. We will build on this great momentum in 2017 and beyond. It's clearly growing nicely. Look at 2000 in UK compared to 2013 in UK.

if you guys can't see the effects it's having (e.g. 5 mil profit from the event, 470k people turning up, 2mil watching a GROUP match probably 5mil+ last night and FOUR MILLION FOR FIJI in sponsorship) then you're clearly ****** and in delusion over your shitshow, the AFL IC. I've only heard of that once or twice in Aussie trivia shows (showing that even ausstralian's know so little about it, quesitons about it can be posed on national tv)

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:13 pm
by adamj1300
Raiderdave wrote:
hmmmm


they're talking of nothing else in NZ today I'm reliably informed , but last nights epic semi
the Blicks played last night
& yet the Kiwis are the talk of the shakey isles as they were when they beat the Kangaroos for the world cup 5 years ago

great stuff
what a world cup =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

meanwhile fumblers are watching a ladyboy convention for some reason :?>
:(/ :(/ :(/ :lol: :lol: :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
its more like they are talking about everything else, except the RLWC :(/
no one would know its on :(/ :(/

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:15 pm
by adamj1300
"The NRL already provides the bulk of the players for the World Cup. In this year's tournament, a staggering 174 players from either the NRL or the Holden Cup were selected by various nations. That's not even counting the 17 or so from Australia's state competition who have also taken part in the tournament."
wow RL is truly killing it all around the world, 3 quarters of the players are from Australia!
yet in Australia more people are interested in the AFL draft

Re: NZ opinion: RLWC "a joke"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:48 pm
by pHyR3
why is this a bad thing? you realise that people move to australia to play in the NRL just as people move to america to play in the NBA but then play for their country in the olympics?