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AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:51 pm
by Rabbit
We were first, says league pioneer Victor Wright

Pia Akerman
The Australian
October 26, 2013 12:00AM

THERE'S a special sense of pride that comes from representing your country and Victor Wright remembers it well.

In 1973, he was **** a 30-strong group of Aboriginal rugby league players who seized an opportunity to represent their country and their culture in an overseas tour, despite frowns from the rugby league establishment, which gave them only a few hundred dollars for the trip.

While the players weren't permitted to wear the green and gold on field, there was no doubt in their minds that they were representing Australia, but their claim to history has sparked a new battle between the codes.

Wright and some of his fellow surviving teammates are understandably irked by an AFL claim that their indigenous All Stars squad playing in Ireland is the first all-indigenous team to "represent a national sporting code at senior level overseas" since an Aboriginal cricket team toured England in 1868.

"The person who said that should have got his story right or dig deeper," Wright told The Weekend Australian. "To say that we were not representative is not right, not right at all."

The NRL's official historian, Terry Williams, is less diplomatic.

"They (the AFL) don't know what they're talking about," he said. "I don't know who is dreaming this up down there, thinking they can just bluster their way through and rewrite history."

The claim first emerged in July, when AFL deputy chief executive Gillon McLachlan had to defend the decision to pick an all-indigenous side for the International Rules tour.

"To the best of our knowledge, the All Stars representing the AFL in International Rules against Ireland will be the first all-indigenous team to represent a national sporting code at senior level overseas since the first cricket team toured England in 1868," McLachlan said.

The AFL now says it based its assessment on the fact that its team was representing a national sports body. "We certainly never intended any disrespect to any group," a spokesman said. "We are happy to acknowledge the rugby league players who toured New Zealand in the 1970s but stand by our comments regarding the 2013 International Rules series and the exclusive involvement of players from the senior level of our competition."

Wright, whose son Jonathan has launched a promising NRL career and plays for the Cronulla Sharks, is adamant that his team played "senior level" football, pointing to several of the players who played in the NRL's predecessor, the NSW Rugby League.

University of Newcastle conjoint professor Bob Morgan, who helped organise the trip, said the fact the team was not officially recognised by league's governing body until last year was "more about them than the calibre of the players".

"It was a totally different world then," he said. "There were still people fearful that we were trying to practise apartheid. The administrators at that time thought it was being separatist and they didn't want to be part of funding or supporting a group that was playing as an ethnic grouping."

A short article in a 1973 edition of Rugby League News describes the team's success in New Zealand, describing the tour as "the first ever by an Aboriginal team".

The team played nine games in nine days, winning seven, including a victory over Kiwi premiers Wellington Petone, the only all-Maori team they played.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/n ... 6747054175

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Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:05 pm
by cos789
Rabbit wrote:
the players weren't permitted to wear the green and gold on field,
Seems to be a major negative against rl for not recognising the team.

HTF can the AFL be criticised for not recognising a team not recognised by rl.

Backfired that one big time.

Maybe you should think before you post,

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:21 am
by Swans4ever
One response Rabbit - was it an official tour of the then NSWRL? If not then sorry the AFL is right - just another NRL whinge - do they troll around looking for someone in NSW to have a whinge? You NRL blokes get a life and Rabbit go back to sitting in a corner with your thumb in your mouth until you have something worthwhile saying!

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:53 pm
by NRLCrap1
There is only one national code. AFL. RL is not Australian, so there's no rewriting here. The Aboriginal team that went to England in 1973 were not playing the Australian game. They were playing the English one.

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:14 pm
by Raiderdave
NRLCrap1 wrote:
There is only one national code. AFL. RL is not Australian, so there's no rewriting here. The Aboriginal team that went to England in 1973 were not playing the Australian game. They were playing the English one.
:(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

VFL is not Australian cock.brea.th

it was invented in the British Colony of Victoria by English & Irish ..... ******* :(/ :(/ :lol: :lol: :_<> :_<> :_<>
& has been a blight on our nation ever since :cool:

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:16 pm
by cos789
NRLCrap1 wrote:
There is only one national code. AFL. RL is not Australian, so there's no rewriting here. The Aboriginal team that went to England in 1973 were not playing the Australian game. They were playing the English one.
Good point.

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:36 pm
by pHyR3
why does the sport have to have its origins in australia to be the national code? what's the national sporting code of brazil? soccer. no dispute there.

and also, why does it matter?

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:44 pm
by Raiderdave
pHyR3 wrote:
why does the sport have to have its origins in australia to be the national code? what's the national sporting code of brazil? soccer. no dispute there.

and also, why does it matter?
I wouldn't bother pal with this line fumblers try on when they are losing an argument

just say the word............... cricket
& they shut the fuck up real quick :shock: 8-[


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Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:13 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
cos789 wrote:
Rabbit wrote:
the players weren't permitted to wear the green and gold on field,
Seems to be a major negative against rl for not recognising the team.

HTF can the AFL be criticised for not recognising a team not recognised by rl.

Backfired that one big time.

Maybe you should think before you post,

You can't read properly of comprehend can you, thickhead!

From the article itself idiot.
University of Newcastle conjoint professor Bob Morgan, who helped organise the trip, said the fact the team was not officially recognised by league's governing body until last year was "more about them than the calibre of the players".
So in effect, the RL people are right because last year the governing body recognised them.

Dumbarse.

Recognition last year for a game played 40 years ago and yet this arrogant mob from viictarrdia couldn't even bother to do some fucking research before posting their version of history which has been proved to be fiction.

Couldn't make this shit up. Oops, yes we can, it's the VFL and Victorians way.

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:39 pm
by Swans4ever
Raiderdave wrote:
NRLCrap1 wrote:
There is only one national code. AFL. RL is not Australian, so there's no rewriting here. The Aboriginal team that went to England in 1973 were not playing the Australian game. They were playing the English one.
:(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

VFL is not Australian cock.brea.th

it was invented in the British Colony of Victoria by English & Irish ..... ******* :(/ :(/ :lol: :lol: :_<> :_<> :_<>
& has been a blight on our nation ever since :cool:
Where was it invented then Ass. breath! (Gutless coward)

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:41 pm
by Swans4ever
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
cos789 wrote:
Rabbit wrote:
the players weren't permitted to wear the green and gold on field,
Seems to be a major negative against rl for not recognising the team.

HTF can the AFL be criticised for not recognising a team not recognised by rl.

Backfired that one big time.

Maybe you should think before you post,

You can't read properly of comprehend can you, thickhead!

From the article itself idiot.
University of Newcastle conjoint professor Bob Morgan, who helped organise the trip, said the fact the team was not officially recognised by league's governing body until last year was "more about them than the calibre of the players".
So in effect, the RL people are right because last year the governing body recognised them.

Dumbarse.

Recognition last year for a game played 40 years ago and yet this arrogant mob from viictarrdia couldn't even bother to do some fucking research before posting their version of history which has been proved to be fiction.

Couldn't make this shit up. Oops, yes we can, it's the VFL and Victorians way.
That's right because AFL makes history - NRL rewrites history!

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:23 pm
by NRLCrap1
Raiderdave wrote:
NRLCrap1 wrote:
There is only one national code. AFL. RL is not Australian, so there's no rewriting here. The Aboriginal team that went to England in 1973 were not playing the Australian game. They were playing the English one.
:(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

VFL is not Australian cock.brea.th

it was invented in the British Colony of Victoria by English & Irish ..... ******* :(/ :(/ :lol: :lol: :_<> :_<> :_<>
& has been a blight on our nation ever since :cool:
In your opinion, and we all know what that's worth. There's a reason why Eliagh calls AFL "Marngrook". It's because that "immigrant" created that game from an Aboriginal game. Are you calling Aborigines 'English/Irish "*******"'?

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:00 pm
by pHyR3
that's one of the possible origins, not THE origin of AFL.

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:37 pm
by NRLCrap1
See? You admit the code's origins! Possible or otherwise. Definite or not. Rugby league can't claim that!

Re: AFL upsets indigenous by trying to rewrite history

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:46 pm
by pHyR3
NRLCrap1 wrote:
See? You admit the code's origins! Possible or otherwise. Definite or not. Rugby league can't claim that!
i didnt admit shit

who the fuck cares mate? if you're so desparate to have THAT as AFL's calling card then go for it, do whatever you want :thumbleft: