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After Straight out Denials , straight faced to everyone .. from that Fat fuck who runs this disgrace of a sport himself, that no deal had been sought

it has now been confirmed that the VFL did indeed seek preferential treatment outside Australian & international law for its players to avoid suspensions over their confirmed use of illegal drugs

this is a prime example folks of why the most arrogant , sleazy & slimy sport on the planet let alone this nation

is despised
it is a sport devoid of integrity ... of a sense of responsibility
of any morals
of anything that can be admired

how can supporters of this code stand by & act as though nothing is wrong here
when will its fans wake the fuck up
when ??

a disgrace
an utter , utter disgrace

one only hopes WADA steps in & stops this & all indications are they will
they have the power to do so ..... some silly little sport from a tiny corner of Australia , that half of this nation doesn't care about , & the rest of the world has never heard of ....will not derail their rules & regulations ... as it would have consequences across the globe for all sports if this Victorian slime are allowed to worm their way out of being punished like the yellow bellied cats they are




AFL have cut a deal with the Feds and ASADA

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Leaked ASADA file reveals favourable AFL treatment

XCLUSIVE: THE AFL and Federal Government cut a private deal in February for ASADA to "explore all avenues" to spare Essendon players from suspension over the systemic use of supplements last season.
The deal is outlined in a document obtained exclusively by The Daily Telegraph.
Its existence has outraged NRL officials, who suspected the AFL had received favourable treatment from ASADA and the Federal Sports Ministry shortly after the drugs-in-sport investigation was announced on February 7.
When NRL chief executive Dave Smith initially learned of the deal he was fuming, raising it with ex-Prime Minister Julia Gillard in March.


The revelation of the private deal, which excluded the NRL, comes less than a week after sections of the Melbourne media began a campaign blaming ASADA for providing incorrect advice in relation to Essendon's use of AOD-9604, suggesting the anti-doping watchdog informed the club it was not prohibited.
Less than two weeks after the Australian Crime Commission released its report into drugs in sport and organised crime on February 7, the AFL deal was drafted to give Essendon players "an immediate level of comfort".


Dated February 20, the document informs the players, some of whom are alleged to have had multiple injections of AOD-9604, about their chances of receiving a "complete elimination of sanction" pursuant to the "no fault" or "negligence" defences.
Outlined in the nine separate dot points, the document begins: "ASADA met with you on 18 February 2013 to give you an overview of the (sic) ASADA's investigation process and of the possible outcomes of the investigation.
"Today (20 February 2013), we have come back to you to take you through an agreement we have reached with the Australian Football League about how the investigation is going to proceed from this point.
"The AFL understands that the investigation is likely to be protracted, complex and lengthy. To provide an immediate level of comfort for Essendon players it is proposed that the following assistance be given to the players."
The nine heads of agreement are then stated, assuring players they will be given every chance to escape the mandatory two-year ban for illicit drug use.
"ASADA will explain to the players that these are exceptional circumstances and the defence of no fault or negligence may be available," the letter reads.
"It will be explained to the players that under a no fault or negligence defence a player can receive a complete elimination of sanction.


"Where a player does come forward and provides a sworn statement regarding his involvement or the involvement of any other person, ASADA and the AFL will fully explore all avenues in an attempt to provide a no fault or negligence defence or substantial assistance.
"ASADA agrees that a significant contributing factor in the consideration of a no fault or negligence defence will be the extent to which players knew or suspected they had used prohibited substances at the instigation of sports science staff and took utmost caution in relation to the treatments they were receiving.
"Where ASADA forms the view that the defence of no fault or negligence is available in relation to a particular player, ASADA and the AFL agree that they will support the application of that defence to that player in proceedings before relevant sports tribunals."
The "no fault" defence is only granted in exceptionally rare circumstances, such as an athlete being treated with banned drugs while unconscious.
In contrast, Cronulla and the NRL were only offered the lesser "no significant fault" defence that reduces bans to a minimum of six months.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said Sunday night: "The AFL met with ASADA and representatives of the Federal Government to establish a framework to enable the investigation to proceed and be completed with full cooperation of the Essendon Football Club and the Essendon players.
"All parties have complied with this framework to date. This framework did not provide for any guaranteed outcomes re recommendations or sanctions."
ASADA said Sunday it had never offered a zero sanction to any athlete or support person.
ASADA's investigation into Essendon is being finalised, with an outcome expected next month.
In contrast, the probe into Cronulla and 21 other current NRL players is expected to take much longer after all interviews were suspended in May.
The NRL will this week announce the restart of a series of interviews with Sharks players from next Monday.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...aph+|+Sport%29

HAHAHA - sounds like sour grapes to me - good on the AFL looking after their players - RD suffer!

Swans4ever wrote:

- good on the AFL looking after their players !

& this is what a cultist's response would be

a brain washed
religious Zealot ... with not an ounce of bearing or sense of morality

it doesn't see the world like a normal person would , doesn't posses the intelligence to ponder & challenge his masters & overlords when they do wrong
just a yapping lap dog
hence the mockery placed on types like this

RL fans would not allow their sport to be discredited like this
to act as shamefully ... as .. Immorally

Dave Smith would have been forced to resign already in light of him Lying the way that fat slimebag did .... about what went down

but we all know Ididaphoo is a dictator
a supreme ruler
& his cowering subjects do not have the balls to stand up to him

a sad pathetic sport
followed by even sadder , more pathetic fans

That's why Cronulla refused to co-op with ASADA and the NRL did.............nothing! If they have worked out a deal, good on them! Admit you were wrong about Harry Kewell going to the Suns game - come on man up!

Swans4ever wrote:

That's why Cronulla refused to co-op with ASADA and the NRL did.............nothing!

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OMG

you & the point
strangers in the night .. exchanging glances

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I thought Rebecca Wilson's articles weren't worth a damn? Or is that only if she writes negative things against the nRL?

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

That's why Cronulla refused to co-op with ASADA and the NRL did.............nothing!

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OMG

you & the point
strangers in the night .. exchanging glances

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Come on RD man up and admit you were wrong!

Drac wrote:

I thought Rebecca Wilson's articles weren't worth a damn? Or is that only if she writes negative things against the nRL?

& the other jurnos
all respected & honest individuals

something sadly lacking amongst the fumbles & bumbles
Lying scumbags
filth
lowlifes


this is your sport

what a fucking disgrace

Raiderdave wrote:

Drac wrote:

I thought Rebecca Wilson's articles weren't worth a damn? Or is that only if she writes negative things against the nRL?

& the other jurnos
all respected & honest individuals

something sadly lacking amongst the fumbles & bumbles
Lying scumbags
filth
lowlifes


this is your sport

what a fucking disgrace

Speaking of liars you going to admit you were wrong!

A majority on the Bigfooty forum are calling for Andy 5 chins head over this. They reckon their game has lost any remaining integrity it had under the fatmans stewardship.

Leaked ASADA file reveals favourable AFL treatment
Rebecca Wilson, James Hooper and Josh Massoud The Daily Telegraph July 22, 2013 12:56PM


The NRL are furious over a deal between the AFL and ASADA pertaining to the ASADA drugs investigation. Source: Gary Ramage / HeraldSun
EXCLUSIVE: THE AFL and Federal Government cut a private deal in February for ASADA to "explore all avenues" to spare Essendon players from suspension over the systemic use of supplements last season.

The deal is outlined in a document obtained exclusively by The Daily Telegraph.

Its existence has outraged NRL officials, who suspected the AFL had received favourable treatment from ASADA and the Federal Sports Ministry shortly after the drugs-in-sport investigation was announced on February 7.

When NRL chief executive Dave Smith initially learned of the deal he was fuming, raising it with ex-Prime Minister Julia Gillard in March.

The revelation of the private deal, which excluded the NRL, comes less than a week after sections of the Melbourne media began a campaign blaming ASADA for providing incorrect advice in relation to Essendon's use of AOD-9604, suggesting the anti-doping watchdog informed the club it was not prohibited.

Less than two weeks after the Australian Crime Commission released its report into drugs in sport and organised crime on February 7, the AFL deal was drafted to give Essendon players "an immediate level of comfort".

Dated February 20, the document informs the players, some of whom are alleged to have had multiple injections of AOD-9604, about their chances of receiving a "complete elimination of sanction" pursuant to the "no fault" or "negligence" defences.

Outlined in the nine separate dot points, the document begins: "ASADA met with you on 18 February 2013 to give you an overview of the (sic) ASADA's investigation process and of the possible outcomes of the investigation.

"Today (20 February 2013), we have come back to you to take you through an agreement we have reached with the Australian Football League about how the investigation is going to proceed from this point.

"The AFL understands that the investigation is likely to be protracted, complex and lengthy. To provide an immediate level of comfort for Essendon players it is proposed that the following assistance be given to the players."

The nine heads of agreement are then stated, assuring players they will be given every chance to escape the mandatory two-year ban for illicit drug use.

"ASADA will explain to the players that these are exceptional circumstances and the defence of no fault or negligence may be available," the letter reads.

"It will be explained to the players that under a no fault or negligence defence a player can receive a complete elimination of sanction.

"Where a player does come forward and provides a sworn statement regarding his involvement or the involvement of any other person, ASADA and the AFL will fully explore all avenues in an attempt to provide a no fault or negligence defence or substantial assistance.

"ASADA agrees that a significant contributing factor in the consideration of a no fault or negligence defence will be the extent to which players knew or suspected they had used prohibited substances at the instigation of sports science staff and took utmost caution in relation to the treatments they were receiving.

"Where ASADA forms the view that the defence of no fault or negligence is available in relation to a particular player, ASADA and the AFL agree that they will support the application of that defence to that player in proceedings before relevant sports tribunals."

The "no fault" defence is only granted in exceptionally rare circumstances, such as an athlete being treated with banned drugs while unconscious.

In contrast, Cronulla and the NRL were only offered the lesser "no significant fault" defence that reduces bans to a minimum of six months.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said Sunday night: "The AFL met with ASADA and representatives of the Federal Government to establish a framework to enable the investigation to proceed and be completed with full cooperation of the Essendon Football Club and the Essendon players.

"All parties have complied with this framework to date. This framework did not provide for any guaranteed outcomes re recommendations or sanctions."

ASADA said Sunday it had never offered a zero sanction to any athlete or support person.

ASADA's investigation into Essendon is being finalised, with an outcome expected next month.

In contrast, the probe into Cronulla and 21 other current NRL players is expected to take much longer after all interviews were suspended in May.

The NRL will this week announce the restart of a series of interviews with Sharks players from next Monday.

JUST SHOWS HOW GREAT AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO AUSTRALIA! NRL however, well not important at all - ASADA offered this to Essendon - Cronulla was offered............2 years, no wonder they won't co-operate with ASADA! Because NRL HQ has no power at all! I think Andrew Demetrio has proved yet again what a shrewd and powerful CEO he is - when he speaks Governments listen - oh how you jelous NRL types just burn that you have a succession of weak ineffectual librarians!
Suffer!

Scanning......news ltd

I thought we never believed a word Bec Wilson said, right Dave? Why believe her now.

Simple fact is the AFL worked with ASADA to ensure the investigation was efficient and comprehensive and the players had the best outcome according to the WADA code ie full co operation.

What a fantastic job by the AFL! =D>

Shame about the NRL and their hilarious boycotts

Swans4ever wrote:

That's why Cronulla refused to co-op with ASADA and the NRL did.............nothing! If they have worked out a deal, good on them! Admit you were wrong about Harry Kewell going to the Suns game - come on man up!

ASADA, turned up to interview the Cronulla players, & the club told them to get nicked, ASADA went to the NRL, & the nrl did nothing.
ASADA tried to work with Cronulla and the NRL, but where shunned.
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now why did ASADA and the AFL, strike a deal and the NRL didnt.
prehaps the AFL cooperated and the NRL didn't
simple enough to understand, Raiderdave, another reason why the NRL is an amateur shit show!

THERE is no deal in place for Essendon players to be offered a "zero sanction" over the club's controversial supplements program in 2012, the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority insists.

But the national sports doping regulator has confirmed it did establish a process with the AFL shortly after the Australian Crime Commission's bombshell report into drugs and organised crime in Australian sport was released in February.

"Given the number of players involved, it was important to have an orderly process to encourage players to come forward," an ASADA spokesperson told AFL.com.au.

"ASADA has not offered a zero sanction to any athlete or support person."

ASADA has also insisted it has never offered incorrect advice over the use of banned supplements or substances.

"At no time has ASADA offered sports advice inconsistent with the World Anti-Doping Code," the spokesperson said.

"Any suggestion to the contrary is incorrect and demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of how ASADA and the World Anti-Doping Code works, and the facts in relation to this investigation."

Critical substance banned: WADA

The agency has dismissed suggestions the AFL is getting favourable treatment compared with the National Rugby League as part of ongoing investigations.

"Under legislation ASADA is required to investigate all possible violations of anti-doping rules, regardless of the sport," the spokesperson said.

"It treats all sports in an equal and consistent way in accordance with the World Anti-Doping Code."

Saga may drag on for years

ASADA's comments on Monday back up a response from the AFL, insisting the League's role was to establish a framework to enable the investigation to proceed.

"All parties have complied with this framework to date," chief executive Andrew Demetriou said.

"The framework did not provide for any guaranteed outcomes re recommendations or sanctions."

ASADA admits the international doping watchdog WADA could ultimately challenge its findings.

"Most critically, WADA provides oversight on all decisions made by ASADA. This means if WADA is unhappy with any anti-doping decision made by ASADA or an individual sport, WADA can appeal that decision," the ASADA spokesperson said.

Matt Thompson is a reporter for AFL Media. Follow him on Twitter @MattThompsonAFL

http://www.AFL.com.au/news/2013-07-22/n ... or-bombers

Bec getting upset about the AFL co operating with ASADA!

SO WILL THIS MAKE RD A HYPOCRATE? - Will he now accuse the NRL of the same outlandish claims and insulting dribble that gushes forth from his pea brain? Or will he run and hide again? When proven to be wrong will he admit it NO - when he makes downright disgraceful accusations does he retract them NO - and when the NRL does the exact same as the AFL will he accuse the NRL of being slime and morally bankrupt NO - he will run and hide and dream up some new bullshit! He is THE COWARD OF THE COUNTY!

NRL assured of equal ASADA treatment after documents reveal deal to spare Essendon players
Darren Walton AAP July 22, 2013 5:30PM


NRL CEO Dave Smith. Source: Damian Shaw / AAP
THE NRL says it's been assured of equal treatment from ASADA after a document emerged detailing a deal to "explore all avenues'' to spare Essendon AFL players from suspensions over the systematic use of supplements last season.

The Daily Telegraph on Monday reported that less than two weeks after the Australian Crime Commission released its report into drugs in sport and organised crime on February 7, the AFL and ASADA struck a deal to give Essendon players "an immediate level of comfort''.

The document informs the players, some of whom are alleged to have had multiple injections of AOD-9604, about their chances of receiving a "complete elimination of sanction'' pursuant to the "no fault'' or "negligence'' defences.

While ASADA's investigation into Essendon is being finalised, with an outcome expected next month, the probe into 31 current NRL players is expected to take much longer after all interviews were suspended in May.

The NRL on Monday said it had received reassurances from both the government and ASADA that rugby league players would receive equal treatment as those from Essendon.

"From the highest levels, we have been assured continually that all parties will be treated equally throughout the process,'' an NRL spokesman told AAP.

Meanwhile, winger Beau Ryan says the onus remains very much on senior Cronulla players not involved in ASADA's investigation to keep the Sharks' NRL title hopes alive.



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ASADA will next week resume interviews with the 31 current rugby league players at the centre of its probe, including 10 Sharks, and Ryan admits the timing couldn't be worse as Cronulla cling to a spot in the top eight just seven rounds out from the finals.

"We're at the stage now where ASADA have had all year to report their findings and they haven't come up with much except disgruntled our footy side,'' Ryan said on Monday.

"But we've bounced back and it just shows the character of some of the guys who have been involved in it.

"They're still only in their mid-20s and I think they've handled it exceptionally well.''

Even so, Ryan conceded the club's less experienced players were "rattled'' when the Australian Crime Commission first released its report into drugs in sport and organised crime in February, after which the Sharks lost five of their first seven games, including four straight.

Ryan says the team's leaders, particularly those not involved in the probe, must stand up again in the Sharks' time of need.

"It's a bad time to bring it up now, especially with the year we've had, overcoming a lot of adversity at the start of the year,'' he said.



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