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NRL Hartland club on the brink:-

The NRL's latest basket case club have just been going from bad to worse - with their continual slide down the NRL ladder from the heady days of 2010 (2nd) - they have slide down to 12th in 2011 then 15th in 2012 with 2013 appearing to be another year where they are are likely not to figure in finals, (10th on percentage but tying with 4 clubs on 4 wins.)

But on field success is cyclical - off field it is a far more depressing story with their hotel group and lifeline in debt to the tune of 90 mil owed to the ANZ and their only hope being to sell of the farm.

The Panthers group losses in 2011 amounted to 11.96mil and in 2012. 1.6mil

The Football club again was hit by a massive decrease of revenue by 2.165 mil and posting a deficit of 3.708 mil - down from surplus of 2.193 in 2011

Were it the case there was a large loyal fan base there would be light at the end of the tunnel, however this is not the case.

Penrith's crowds whilst respectable in 2009 with an average of 13719 have gradually fallen to an average of 10567 for 2013. With 3 of top 5 NRL lowest crowds for 2013 and their last effort being against Melb Storm (2013 premiers) only 7803 bothering to attend. Memberships are also a real concern with only 5875 committed fans it looks downright bleak! Penrith a club in a steady decline in revenue and crowds and little hope for on field success one can only ask - are they to go the way of Newtown and North Sydney? Will the NRL media package ride to the rescue or will it be a bridge too far? I think that time will tell but IMO a team with no fan base and a steady decline in revenue without the backing of NRLHQ is destined to go the way of the DODO!

Swans4ever wrote:

NRL Hartland club on the brink:-

The NRL's latest basket case club have just been going from bad to worse - with their continual slide down the NRL ladder from the heady days of 2010 (2nd) - they have slide down to 12th in 2011 then 15th in 2012 with 2013 appearing to be another year where they are are likely not to figure in finals, (10th on percentage but tying with 4 clubs on 4 wins.)

But on field success is cyclical - off field it is a far more depressing story with their hotel group and lifeline in debt to the tune of 90 mil owed to the ANZ and their only hope being to sell of the farm.

The Panthers group losses in 2011 amounted to 11.96mil and in 2012. 1.6mil

The Football club again was hit by a massive decrease of revenue by 2.165 mil and posting a deficit of 3.708 mil - down from surplus of 2.193 in 2011

Were it the case there was a large loyal fan base there would be light at the end of the tunnel, however this is not the case.

Penrith's crowds whilst respectable in 2009 with an average of 13719 have gradually fallen to an average of 10567 for 2013. With 3 of top 5 NRL lowest crowds for 2013 and their last effort being against Melb Storm (2013 premiers) only 7803 bothering to attend. Memberships are also a real concern with only 5875 committed fans it looks downright bleak! Penrith a club in a steady decline in revenue and crowds and little hope for on field success one can only ask - are they to go the way of Newtown and North Sydney? Will the NRL media package ride to the rescue or will it be a bridge too far? I think that time will tell but IMO a team with no fan base and a steady decline in revenue without the backing of NRLHQ is destined to go the way of the DODO!

Swans4ever wrote:

NRL Hartland club on the brink:-

The NRL's latest basket case club have just been going from bad to worse - with their continual slide down the NRL ladder from the heady days of 2010 (2nd) - they have slide down to 12th in 2011 then 15th in 2012 with 2013 appearing to be another year where they are are likely not to figure in finals, (10th on percentage but tying with 4 clubs on 4 wins.)

But on field success is cyclical - off field it is a far more depressing story with their hotel group and lifeline in debt to the tune of 90 mil owed to the ANZ and their only hope being to sell of the farm.

The Panthers group losses in 2011 amounted to 11.96mil and in 2012. 1.6mil

The Football club again was hit by a massive decrease of revenue by 2.165 mil and posting a deficit of 3.708 mil - down from surplus of 2.193 in 2011

Were it the case there was a large loyal fan base there would be light at the end of the tunnel, however this is not the case.

Penrith's crowds whilst respectable in 2009 with an average of 13719 have gradually fallen to an average of 10567 for 2013. With 3 of top 5 NRL lowest crowds for 2013 and their last effort being against Melb Storm (2013 premiers) only 7803 bothering to attend. Memberships are also a real concern with only 5875 committed fans it looks downright bleak! Penrith a club in a steady decline in revenue and crowds and little hope for on field success one can only ask - are they to go the way of Newtown and North Sydney? Will the NRL media package ride to the rescue or will it be a bridge too far? I think that time will tell but IMO a team with no fan base and a steady decline in revenue without the backing of NRLHQ is destined to go the way of the DODO!

superior intellect
this shit for brains can't even spell

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

NRL Hartland club on the brink:-

The NRL's latest basket case club have just been going from bad to worse - with their continual slide down the NRL ladder from the heady days of 2010 (2nd) - they have slide down to 12th in 2011 then 15th in 2012 with 2013 appearing to be another year where they are are likely not to figure in finals, (10th on percentage but tying with 4 clubs on 4 wins.)

But on field success is cyclical - off field it is a far more depressing story with their hotel group and lifeline in debt to the tune of 90 mil owed to the ANZ and their only hope being to sell of the farm.

The Panthers group losses in 2011 amounted to 11.96mil and in 2012. 1.6mil

The Football club again was hit by a massive decrease of revenue by 2.165 mil and posting a deficit of 3.708 mil - down from surplus of 2.193 in 2011

Were it the case there was a large loyal fan base there would be light at the end of the tunnel, however this is not the case.

Penrith's crowds whilst respectable in 2009 with an average of 13719 have gradually fallen to an average of 10567 for 2013. With 3 of top 5 NRL lowest crowds for 2013 and their last effort being against Melb Storm (2013 premiers) only 7803 bothering to attend. Memberships are also a real concern with only 5875 committed fans it looks downright bleak! Penrith a club in a steady decline in revenue and crowds and little hope for on field success one can only ask - are they to go the way of Newtown and North Sydney? Will the NRL media package ride to the rescue or will it be a bridge too far? I think that time will tell but IMO a team with no fan base and a steady decline in revenue without the backing of NRLHQ is destined to go the way of the DODO!

superior intellect
this shit for brains can't even spell

Just what I expect from you Raiderdave, obviously can't fault the content - so find fault with spelling! If only your posts were so perfect!

Swans4ever wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

NRL Hartland club on the brink:-

The NRL's latest basket case club have just been going from bad to worse - with their continual slide down the NRL ladder from the heady days of 2010 (2nd) - they have slide down to 12th in 2011 then 15th in 2012 with 2013 appearing to be another year where they are are likely not to figure in finals, (10th on percentage but tying with 4 clubs on 4 wins.)

But on field success is cyclical - off field it is a far more depressing story with their hotel group and lifeline in debt to the tune of 90 mil owed to the ANZ and their only hope being to sell of the farm.

The Panthers group losses in 2011 amounted to 11.96mil and in 2012. 1.6mil

The Football club again was hit by a massive decrease of revenue by 2.165 mil and posting a deficit of 3.708 mil - down from surplus of 2.193 in 2011

Were it the case there was a large loyal fan base there would be light at the end of the tunnel, however this is not the case.

Penrith's crowds whilst respectable in 2009 with an average of 13719 have gradually fallen to an average of 10567 for 2013. With 3 of top 5 NRL lowest crowds for 2013 and their last effort being against Melb Storm (2013 premiers) only 7803 bothering to attend. Memberships are also a real concern with only 5875 committed fans it looks downright bleak! Penrith a club in a steady decline in revenue and crowds and little hope for on field success one can only ask - are they to go the way of Newtown and North Sydney? Will the NRL media package ride to the rescue or will it be a bridge too far? I think that time will tell but IMO a team with no fan base and a steady decline in revenue without the backing of NRLHQ is destined to go the way of the DODO!

superior intellect
this shit for brains can't even spell

Just what I expect from you Raiderdave, obviously can't fault the content - so find fault with spelling! If only your posts were so perfect!

I couldn't get past the yr3 spelling mistake

seriously
didn't you say you had superior intellect ?

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

NRL Hartland club on the brink:-

The NRL's latest basket case club have just been going from bad to worse - with their continual slide down the NRL ladder from the heady days of 2010 (2nd) - they have slide down to 12th in 2011 then 15th in 2012 with 2013 appearing to be another year where they are are likely not to figure in finals, (10th on percentage but tying with 4 clubs on 4 wins.)

But on field success is cyclical - off field it is a far more depressing story with their hotel group and lifeline in debt to the tune of 90 mil owed to the ANZ and their only hope being to sell of the farm.

The Panthers group losses in 2011 amounted to 11.96mil and in 2012. 1.6mil

The Football club again was hit by a massive decrease of revenue by 2.165 mil and posting a deficit of 3.708 mil - down from surplus of 2.193 in 2011

Were it the case there was a large loyal fan base there would be light at the end of the tunnel, however this is not the case.

Penrith's crowds whilst respectable in 2009 with an average of 13719 have gradually fallen to an average of 10567 for 2013. With 3 of top 5 NRL lowest crowds for 2013 and their last effort being against Melb Storm (2013 premiers) only 7803 bothering to attend. Memberships are also a real concern with only 5875 committed fans it looks downright bleak! Penrith a club in a steady decline in revenue and crowds and little hope for on field success one can only ask - are they to go the way of Newtown and North Sydney? Will the NRL media package ride to the rescue or will it be a bridge too far? I think that time will tell but IMO a team with no fan base and a steady decline in revenue without the backing of NRLHQ is destined to go the way of the DODO!

superior intellect
this shit for brains can't even spell

Just what I expect from you Raiderdave, obviously can't fault the content - so find fault with spelling! If only your posts were so perfect!

I couldn't get past the yr3 spelling mistake

seriously
didn't you say you had superior intellect ?

I take that as an admission that Penrith are fucked!

Hahaha

Swans4ever wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

NRL Hartland club on the brink:-

The NRL's latest basket case club have just been going from bad to worse - with their continual slide down the NRL ladder from the heady days of 2010 (2nd) - they have slide down to 12th in 2011 then 15th in 2012 with 2013 appearing to be another year where they are are likely not to figure in finals, (10th on percentage but tying with 4 clubs on 4 wins.)

But on field success is cyclical - off field it is a far more depressing story with their hotel group and lifeline in debt to the tune of 90 mil owed to the ANZ and their only hope being to sell of the farm.

The Panthers group losses in 2011 amounted to 11.96mil and in 2012. 1.6mil

The Football club again was hit by a massive decrease of revenue by 2.165 mil and posting a deficit of 3.708 mil - down from surplus of 2.193 in 2011

Were it the case there was a large loyal fan base there would be light at the end of the tunnel, however this is not the case.

Penrith's crowds whilst respectable in 2009 with an average of 13719 have gradually fallen to an average of 10567 for 2013. With 3 of top 5 NRL lowest crowds for 2013 and their last effort being against Melb Storm (2013 premiers) only 7803 bothering to attend. Memberships are also a real concern with only 5875 committed fans it looks downright bleak! Penrith a club in a steady decline in revenue and crowds and little hope for on field success one can only ask - are they to go the way of Newtown and North Sydney? Will the NRL media package ride to the rescue or will it be a bridge too far? I think that time will tell but IMO a team with no fan base and a steady decline in revenue without the backing of NRLHQ is destined to go the way of the DODO!

superior intellect
this shit for brains can't even spell

Just what I expect from you Raiderdave, obviously can't fault the content - so find fault with spelling! If only your posts were so perfect!

I couldn't get past the yr3 spelling mistake

seriously
didn't you say you had superior intellect ?

I take that as an admission that Penrith are fucked!

Hahaha

I take that as an admission that you do not in fact have superior intellect

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

NRL Hartland club on the brink:-

The NRL's latest basket case club have just been going from bad to worse - with their continual slide down the NRL ladder from the heady days of 2010 (2nd) - they have slide down to 12th in 2011 then 15th in 2012 with 2013 appearing to be another year where they are are likely not to figure in finals, (10th on percentage but tying with 4 clubs on 4 wins.)

But on field success is cyclical - off field it is a far more depressing story with their hotel group and lifeline in debt to the tune of 90 mil owed to the ANZ and their only hope being to sell of the farm.

The Panthers group losses in 2011 amounted to 11.96mil and in 2012. 1.6mil

The Football club again was hit by a massive decrease of revenue by 2.165 mil and posting a deficit of 3.708 mil - down from surplus of 2.193 in 2011

Were it the case there was a large loyal fan base there would be light at the end of the tunnel, however this is not the case.

Penrith's crowds whilst respectable in 2009 with an average of 13719 have gradually fallen to an average of 10567 for 2013. With 3 of top 5 NRL lowest crowds for 2013 and their last effort being against Melb Storm (2013 premiers) only 7803 bothering to attend. Memberships are also a real concern with only 5875 committed fans it looks downright bleak! Penrith a club in a steady decline in revenue and crowds and little hope for on field success one can only ask - are they to go the way of Newtown and North Sydney? Will the NRL media package ride to the rescue or will it be a bridge too far? I think that time will tell but IMO a team with no fan base and a steady decline in revenue without the backing of NRLHQ is destined to go the way of the DODO!

superior intellect
this shit for brains can't even spell

Just what I expect from you Raiderdave, obviously can't fault the content - so find fault with spelling! If only your posts were so perfect!

I couldn't get past the yr3 spelling mistake

seriously
didn't you say you had superior intellect ?

I take that as an admission that Penrith are fucked!

Hahaha

I take that as an admission that you do not in fact have superior intellect

Yes Raiderdave keep telling yourself that - keep your head in the sand and try and ignor the inevitable. Penrith may as well receive the last rights - thats why your deflecting. You just can't admitt that all is not well with RL!

Swans4ever wrote:

NRL Hartland club on the brink:-

The NRL's latest basket case club have just been going from bad to worse - with their continual slide down the NRL ladder from the heady days of 2010 (2nd) - they have slide down to 12th in 2011 then 15th in 2012 with 2013 appearing to be another year where they are are likely not to figure in finals, (10th on percentage but tying with 4 clubs on 4 wins.)

But on field success is cyclical - off field it is a far more depressing story with their hotel group and lifeline in debt to the tune of 90 mil owed to the ANZ and their only hope being to sell of the farm.

The Panthers group losses in 2011 amounted to 11.96mil and in 2012. 1.6mil

The Football club again was hit by a massive decrease of revenue by 2.165 mil and posting a deficit of 3.708 mil - down from surplus of 2.193 in 2011

Were it the case there was a large loyal fan base there would be light at the end of the tunnel, however this is not the case.

Penrith's crowds whilst respectable in 2009 with an average of 13719 have gradually fallen to an average of 10567 for 2013. With 3 of top 5 NRL lowest crowds for 2013 and their last effort being against Melb Storm (2013 premiers) only 7803 bothering to attend. Memberships are also a real concern with only 5875 committed fans it looks downright bleak! Penrith a club in a steady decline in revenue and crowds and little hope for on field success one can only ask - are they to go the way of Newtown and North Sydney? Will the NRL media package ride to the rescue or will it be a bridge too far? I think that time will tell but IMO a team with no fan base and a steady decline in revenue without the backing of NRLHQ is destined to go the way of the DODO!

Despite thier massive leagues club empire, the Panthers are a financial mess as you've highlighted above. They'll need to merge with fellow western Sydney strugglers Parramatta Eels within 5 years. There you go, that's my prediction.

This thread was doomed as soon as he spelt (heartland) Hartland.................................


Well done young chap .................. =D> =D> =D>


First we put up with his emotional outbursts, now this.................


How lucky are we that the Gods have blessed us with Swans presence................

eelofwest wrote:

This thread was doomed as soon as he spelt (heartland) Hartland.................................


Well done young chap .................. =D> =D> =D>


First we put up with his emotional outbursts, now this.................


How lucky are we that the Gods have blessed us with Swans presence................

Then why comment - obviously in Denial slimmy eel of west!