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Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:27 am
by Raiderdave
less then 2,000 actual paying customers to the game at Skoda last week
most paying the usual $2.50 to get into a fumbleathon

2,000 freebies
1,500 members .... ( I thought they had 12,000 8-[ .... do they not know where Skoda is ? :-k )
330 corporate hangers on


F me .... what a disgrace
what an absolute debacle ...... & as this article says
197 million spent so far

why aren't VFL fans livid
many of their teams are going down the shitter in order to prop up these oxygen thieve *********


would not happen in the NRL
a competitive team from day one ... at a 10th of the cost ... that's the NRL :wink:

VFL fans
dumbest on the planet :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



The AFL's $197M debacle
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6645899142

IF it were a business and not a sporting franchise, the money being burnt on the struggling GWS Giants would be bordering on a scandal.

Today, we can reveal a staggering $197 million is being invested on the AFL easybeats, a team that attracted less than 2,000 paying customers to last week's capitulation against the Adelaide Crows.

At the same time, traditional old rugby league venues such as Brookvale and Leichhardt ovals are being neglected and left to rot by state and federal governments that don't care.

The governments have funded a $60 million Skoda Stadium redevelopment for the Giants' exclusive use, the $27 million Blacktown complex and the brand new $10 million Giants training base at Homebush.

On top of that, AFL boss Andrew Demetriou has thrown in $100 million over the next five years.




Such an enormous outlay would be almost understandable if the facilities were being properly utilised by Sydney sporting fans.

After 18 months, GWS have already bailed out on Blacktown as their headquarters.

Their average crowds are fewer than 7,000 at Skoda, even allowing for thousands of giveaways for every game.

From last Sunday's crowd of 5830, as many as 2,000 were complimentary tickets, 1,500 GWS members, 2,000 sales and 330 corporates.

At the same time, rugby league clubs are attracting up to 20,000 fans to suburban grounds.
Yet the facilities are a disgrace.

Brookvale Oval is now a crumbling , decaying old footy park - yet it is home to one of the glamour teams of the NRL.

It has two old red brick toilet blocks to service the entire hill area. They have been there since the ground opened.

You stand in mud in the queue to use them. Old food outlets, long lines, poor parking - you name it and Brookvale suffers from it.

The likelihood of Tony Abbott becoming Prime Minister in September will help the Sea Eagles' cause, although the O'Farrell government will only spend money on major venues such as Parramatta Stadium, ANZ or Allianz from here on.

So the AFL easybeats keep receiving their Giant handouts - and league fans are left with a giant snub.

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:56 am
by piesman2011
I love the way they put it. As many as 2000....... So some where between 0 and 2000. Very poor word usage, they have no idea so they use the words "as many as" to make sure they can't be wrong. Must have been a slow news day. :lol:
But rather then say RL also attracts poor crowds of around 7000 to some club games, they go with a almost random number of 20000. Just a really badly written article.

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:06 am
by Fred
Just curious , why aren't members considered paying ?

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:11 am
by Raiderdave
piesman2011 wrote:
I love the way they put it. As many as 2000....... So some where between 0 and 2000. Very poor word usage, they have no idea so they use the words "as many as" to make sure they can't be wrong. Must have been a slow news day. :lol:
But rather then say RL also attracts poor crowds of around 7000 to some club games, they go with a almost random number of 20000. Just a really badly written article.
but but but

derp derp derp :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:12 am
by Raiderdave
Phelpsy wrote:
Just curious , why aren't members considered paying ?

just curious ... where were the other 10,500 of their members ? :-k

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:16 am
by Fred
Oh, that's not what I asked ... But anyway , you see the way membership works Dave is that you pay to join and depending on type of membership you get to go to so many games. So if you have a 3 game membership your not going to go to every game . Hence why not all 12000 members were present . Some people get 18 game memberships and don't go to every game either . Hope that helps with your question .

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:21 am
by Raiderdave
Phelpsy wrote:
. Hence why not all 12000 members were present . .

not all :-k

there were barely 10% of them :lol: :lol: :lol:

that'd be like 7500 Collingdon members turning up
4,000 Port Poopsalot members attending a game

6,000 Whorethorn members showing up


this DOESN"t happen

I've said it from day one
Midgets membership numbers .... a sham !! :cool:

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:24 am
by Stewie
Scanning... News Ltd :lol:

FYI, this is the same rl journo that was saying the nRL's opening crowds were fudged. So what is it Raiderdave, is Phil an accurate journo or not?

Dumbarse! :lol:

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:21 pm
by Raiderdave
Stewie wrote:
Scanning... News Ltd :lol:

FYI, this is the same rl journo that was saying the nRL's opening crowds were fudged. So what is it Raiderdave, is Phil an accurate journo or not?

Dumbarse! :lol:

News Ltd have no agenda against the VFL shit for brains like they do against the NRL
unlike in the NRL , they report it ... as it is in the VFL
deal with it :cool:

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:25 pm
by Drac
So he's a reliable source when you agree with him, and not reliable when you don't agree with him.....

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Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:39 pm
by Swans4ever
Raiderdave wrote:
less then 2,000 actual paying customers to the game at Skoda last week
most paying the usual $2.50 to get into a fumbleathon

2,000 freebies
1,500 members .... ( I thought they had 12,000 8-[ .... do they not know where Skoda is ? :-k )
330 corporate hangers on


F me .... what a disgrace
what an absolute debacle ...... & as this article says
197 million spent so far

why aren't VFL fans livid
many of their teams are going down the shitter in order to prop up these oxygen thieve *********


would not happen in the NRL
a competitive team from day one ... at a 10th of the cost ... that's the NRL :wink:

VFL fans
dumbest on the planet :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



The AFL's $197M debacle
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6645899142

IF it were a business and not a sporting franchise, the money being burnt on the struggling GWS Giants would be bordering on a scandal.

Today, we can reveal a staggering $197 million is being invested on the AFL easybeats, a team that attracted less than 2,000 paying customers to last week's capitulation against the Adelaide Crows.

At the same time, traditional old rugby league venues such as Brookvale and Leichhardt ovals are being neglected and left to rot by state and federal governments that don't care.

The governments have funded a $60 million Skoda Stadium redevelopment for the Giants' exclusive use, the $27 million Blacktown complex and the brand new $10 million Giants training base at Homebush.

On top of that, AFL boss Andrew Demetriou has thrown in $100 million over the next five years.




Such an enormous outlay would be almost understandable if the facilities were being properly utilised by Sydney sporting fans.

After 18 months, GWS have already bailed out on Blacktown as their headquarters.

Their average crowds are fewer than 7,000 at Skoda, even allowing for thousands of giveaways for every game.

From last Sunday's crowd of 5830, as many as 2,000 were complimentary tickets, 1,500 GWS members, 2,000 sales and 330 corporates.

At the same time, rugby league clubs are attracting up to 20,000 fans to suburban grounds.
Yet the facilities are a disgrace.

Brookvale Oval is now a crumbling , decaying old footy park - yet it is home to one of the glamour teams of the NRL.

It has two old red brick toilet blocks to service the entire hill area. They have been there since the ground opened.

You stand in mud in the queue to use them. Old food outlets, long lines, poor parking - you name it and Brookvale suffers from it.

The likelihood of Tony Abbott becoming Prime Minister in September will help the Sea Eagles' cause, although the O'Farrell government will only spend money on major venues such as Parramatta Stadium, ANZ or Allianz from here on.

So the AFL easybeats keep receiving their Giant handouts - and league fans are left with a giant snub.
Yes Raiderdave go and quote Phil Rothfield an NRL journalist - not exactly independent! Someone who is a paid employee of the NRL - his opinion is meaningless! 100 mil AFL money over 5 years is not the NRL's money Raiderdave they can spend as much of their own money as they like - its not for the NRL or you to dictate how they should spend their money - personally I don't care if its 20 years and 400 mil - if it takes that long so be it! My great grand kids will play footy as will kids in western Sydney - no one in Melb will play NRL now or 20 years time! HAHAHA you have lost Raiderdave!

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:55 pm
by Stewie
Drac wrote:
So he's a reliable source when you agree with him, and not reliable when you don't agree with him.....

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Spot on Drac.

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:16 pm
by King-Eliagh
Wow $197miiiillllllion!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Why? After alls said and done they look worse this season than last, their crowds are dwindling, and their coach is alienating the club from the massive recent immigrant population at his doorstep...what can the AFL do to remedy this situation?

I know our resident dopey AFL suporters just believe itll all come good and gws will naturally improve and be in the finals in thew next few years. I'm sorry, but, its not that simple...especially the way the AFL set the team up to fail.

I mean, seriously. The AFL couldve done much better things with that money, for example helping a third world country out of poverty. Apart from helping the country out the result would likely be in 20 years we'd have another nation actually serious about the game.

Or, the AFL coulda been smarter and started a team in darwin or tassie...even canberra would of been a smarter option. [-X

Someone should be accountable for this shambles of a setup. [-X

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:05 pm
by Raiderdave
Drac wrote:
So he's a reliable source when you agree with him, and not reliable when you don't agree with him.....

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his employers aren't instructing him to write lies about the VFL dickhead .. like he has been about the NRL
his employers weren't shown the door .. & kindly told not to let the door hit them in the butt on the way out ... by the VFL

they were by the NRL
& News Ltd Screamed Vandetta .... from the hill tops
& a nasty agenda was started

no such animosity exists between News & the VFL
so theres no need to lie

end of :cool:

Re: Midgets crowds , the Truth !!

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:53 am
by Swans4ever
Raiderdave wrote:
Drac wrote:
So he's a reliable source when you agree with him, and not reliable when you don't agree with him.....

Image

his employers aren't instructing him to write lies about the VFL dickhead .. like he has been about the NRL
his employers weren't shown the door .. & kindly told not to let the door hit them in the butt on the way out ... by the VFL

they were by the NRL
& News Ltd Screamed Vandetta .... from the hill tops
& a nasty agenda was started

no such animosity exists between News & the VFL
so theres no need to lie

end of :cool:
No - Raiderdave news ltd is invested in the NRL - remember who owns the Storm? AFL doesn't own or have any connection with the Herald Sun. No Raiderdave definitley a conflict of interest - his employers have a vested interest in the NRL! And Queen-clone why should the AFL answer to anyone - they are an independent boby, what they choose to do with their money is their buisness. What about the Storm havent made a profit in fact their LOSSES amount to 75mil - so who's head are going to go after for this mess! http://m.afr.com/p/business/marketing_m ... eJPfXNDJFP