Skills Required in AFL and NRL

[Dogs]

Sorry where did the claim of equal dollars come from? Perhaps equal value given the NRL did not pay to establish two extra clubs and thus an extra game.

or enarelle unlike AFL there are a multitude of skills in RL that we require different players to have (not a two dimensional game). So we will not waste our millions on trying to steal AFL players that do not have the skills we require or try and bring in two new side to increase our tv deal which cost us tens of millions of dollars a year each, fans and one sided games week in week out for a number of year before it may or may not pay off etc.

The only two real skills you need in AFL, kick and catch and AFL take a winger and a fullback as their selections of players from RL and think they have a big win, really . Both positions hardly kick a ball and given this is one of your two key skills AFL needs in their game, who made this decision. You know, the sort of skills I praise my 7 year old to do. Note, a winger is one of 17 players in RL, where there main skills are to set up or score tries and catch the ball from a kick, not kick, all skills Izzy was very good at, given AFL is kick and catch centric, I would say stupid waste of money and you should have concetrated on a half or 5/8. But your administration elects to take a 3rd string RL fullback that is being priased as a god in your game, and again rarely kicked a ball in his life of RL and a winger. Thats right, our game has diversity in the players, unlike you crap which as long as you can both catch and kick a ball well you are a god. 2 players you stole, 1 god 1 not so bad, but not the best. Given the money you are paying, your bosses are dumbarses.

Take a look at the below, of course he is disinterested, but happy to take your money at his age. He will return to RL now they have their deal and again be successful. He is probably bored out of his brains playing your nonsense, and before you start, it is your administration that paid a good chunk of your TV deal for a NRL winger that rarely kicks a ball, which suggests to me, even they think your game is easy to pick up and play, he is going OK at your top level, so they must not be to far from the mark. As they say below, it only takes 3 year to be an elite AFL player.

http://www.news-mail.com.au/story/2012/ ... ment-flop/
TIIME to go ... Israel Folau.

Former Geelong premiership player turned commentator Cameron Mooney became the latest in a long line of experts to declare the Folau "experiment" at Greater Western Sydney had failed.

The call came after the former rugby league star managed just three disposals and three hit-outs in Saturday's 25-point loss to fellow strugglers Melbourne.

But like coach Kevin Sheedy has done several times this season, Giants list manager Stephen Silvagni yesterday jumped to Folau's defence, saying critics of the 23-year-old were jumping the gun.

"He's a player who's in his first year as an AFL player," Silvagni said. "We've got to give him time to develop.

"If you have a look at a lot of talls at other clubs, they really only start to play reasonable football in their third year."

Silvagni also said Folau, who has been accused of looking disinterested on the field, wasn't going to toss it in.

"We're in a position where we can give (Folau) time," Silvagni said. "We're going to back him in, and Izzy's determined to make it himself."

[piesman2011]

The only two real skills you need in AFL, kick and catch

Watch a game maybe you missed a thing or two.

[Dogs]

The only two real skills you need in AFL, kick and catch

Watch a game maybe you missed a thing or two.

sorry I forgot fumble, yep there is three

[Xman]

The only two real skills you need in AFL, kick and catch

Watch a game maybe you missed a thing or two.

sorry I forgot fumble, yep there is three

What skills are evident in RL that arent in ARs?

[enarelle]

Tackling.

[Xman]

Tackling.

Are you suggesting tackling doesnt exist in ARs?

[enarelle]

I am saying that a far superior version is seen in rugby league. Find it humorous in AFL that players can be so "tough' off the ball as they call it ie in the face shouting,nudging/pushing etc and when they can really nail an opponent ie when they have the ball they go to water with a bit of a grab/cuddle as opposed to a full blooded tackle.

[Xman]

I am saying that a far superior version is seen in rugby league. Find it humorous in AFL that players can be so "tough' off the ball as they call it ie in the face shouting,nudging/pushing etc and when they can really nail an opponent ie when they have the ball they go to water with a bit of a grab/cuddle as opposed to a full blooded tackle.

The difference is:
- ARs players are required to dispose of the ball They cant simply fall in to the tackle without an attempt to dispose of the ball. Otherwise they are penalised. There is no real benefit in nailing a tackle hard because the player with the ball simply needs to handpass the ball to another nearby team mate. The tackler is better placed to tackle but be prepared to change target for another tackle when the ball is handed off.
- The rules are harsher on tackling technique. Any tackle below the knees, in the back, above the shoulders, or applied to a player without the ball is penalised.

So tackling may not be as high impact in ARs as it is in RL but it is still a major skill and can have a huge impact on the game. You only have to look at K Hunt attempt to tackle in ARs. Despite his RL and RU background he may hit hard but has little extra impact than any other player. In RL he had people just run straight into his arms for a tackle. In ARs he needs to catch people and he just aint that fast or good at it.

Tackling in RL does seem very predictable. The impact is from front on. The tackle is expected. The players brace for the impact. Yawn......

[enarelle]

Grasping at someone does not a tackle make. To say AFL players 'tackle" is to misuse the language.

[Xman]

Grasping at someone does not a tackle make. To say AFL players 'tackle" is to misuse the language.

v. Tackle:
1. To grab hold of and wrestle with (an opponent).
2. Sports
a. To stop (an opponent carrying the ball), especially by forcing the opponent to the ground.
b. To obstruct (a player with the ball) in order to cause loss of possession of the ball.
3. To engage or deal with: tackle a perplexing problem.
4. To harness (a horse).

To suggest RL owns the definition or interpretation of a tackle is farcicle. It's a different game and the tackle has a different part to play. In RL the tackle is inevitable because players must force through a tightly packed defense. Players aren't penalised if tackled so they readily succumb, often without any attempt to evade. You call this tackling? Seems more like blocking or stopping.

Definition a. Above more accurately describes a RL tackle. Definition b. more accurately describes an ARs tackle. They are both tackles.

[pussycat]

Tackling.

Are you suggesting tackling doesnt exist in ARs?

Comparing tackling or running even, in the two games is like comparing a punch from a heavy weight boxer with that of a slap from some tight shorted, limp-wristed guy(who just happens to play AFL)

[Xman]

Tackling.

Are you suggesting tackling doesnt exist in ARs?

Comparing tackling or running even, in the two games is like comparing a punch from a heavy weight boxer with that of a slap from some tight shorted, limp-wristed guy(who just happens to play AFL)

running?

[cos789]

I am saying that a far superior version is seen in rugby league.

Have to disagree. There is a lot of tackling in rl but most of it is off a short run and front on.
First defender usually blocks the attacker and two other defenders then tackle the player to the ground.
Because of the congested nature of AR these days there is a lot more tackling and a lot more effective tackling and occassionally we see some really good tackles when a player is run down from behind.

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[pussycat]

I am saying that a far superior version is seen in rugby league.

Have to disagree. There is a lot of tackling in rl but most of it is off a short run and front on.
First defender usually blocks the attacker and two other defenders then tackle the player to the ground.
Because of the congested nature of AR these days there is a lot more tackling and a lot more effective tackling and occassionally we see some really good tackles when a player is run down from behind.

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You've got to be @####ing joking , I've seen tougher defence in netball.

[piesman2011]

I may be bias but I would have to say that tackling is a harder skill in AR then in RL. There is a lot more space on a AR field and with RL you usually have 1 to 2 team mates who can tackle an opponent at the same time as you. With AR you have to tackle them in a certain way and you can not tackle when they dont have the ball. As soon as they get rid of the ball the tackle must drop off or you will give away a free kick. There is only a small area of the body you can tackle in AR and if you come in from behind you have to tackle around your opponent and not fall into their back. I will acknowledge that the RL players are stronger and better equipt to fend off would be tacklers. But the art of tackling in AR is a tougher skill.

Here are some other AR skills that all players need to have.
mark
Hand ball.
hardball get
the following are kicking skills
Around the body
banana (checkside)
Kicking with both feet

Here is the a list of the skills (sic) you need as a RL player:
Tackle (but they mostly need two mates to help them)
Roll the football under your boot




In RL you dont even need to pass the ball. In fact some players dont have permission to pass the ball, because it is to hard for them to throw the ball backwards. Only two players need to be able to kick the ball. So essentially if you can take a tackle, help two mates tackle an opponent and roll the ball under your foot. You have all the skills to be a RL player in the NRL.