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Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:16 pm
by pussycat
yes, great read - The Churchillian like speech from Grant get me all hard every time I read it. But what is it you think it proves?

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:21 pm
by Xman
pussycat wrote:
yes, great read - The Churchillian like speech from Grant get me all hard every time I read it. But what is it you think it proves?
Cant you read?

''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million.

Isnt that less than 1.3b? :-k

:cool:

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:23 pm
by pussycat
Yeah right, We thought we got double what we got last time but we actually got less :-k :mrgreen: somehow I dont think so. [-(

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:24 am
by Xman
pussycat wrote:
Yeah right, We thought we got double what we got last time but we actually got less :-k :mrgreen: somehow I dont think so. [-(
Your own leader John Grant said it! :wink:

The NRL didnt disclose the full value of the Telstra deal. Now we know it wasnt much over 100m like we thought. NZ wasnt much of an increase either.

There's no denying his admission [-(

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:52 am
by piesman2011
pussycat wrote:
Yeah right, We thought we got double what we got last time but we actually got less :-k :mrgreen: somehow I dont think so. [-(
The facts from the commision are:

Total = 1.2 billion (plus a bit of change)

9 and fox = 1.025 billion

So because of these facts we know that

Telstra + NZ = 175 milion (+ change)

But we dont know how much NZ or Telstra contributed individually.

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:04 pm
by pussycat
What we know is we know 1s: NZ money was $100m ( NZ $25m a year Au $20 a year). And we also know Telstra paid at least double. Not less!
Telstra would not disclose the commercial value of the contract but ARLC chairman John Grant said the deal was worth “double” in cash and contra to their previous deal.
“We have agreed with Telstra not to disclose the full value of that contract however we do acknowledge that it is double what we got in the last contract rights period.”

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:11 pm
by Xman
pussycat wrote:
What we know is we know 1s: NZ money was $100m ( NZ $25m a year Au $20 a year). And we also know Telstra paid at least double. Not less!
Telstra would not disclose the commercial value of the contract but ARLC chairman John Grant said the deal was worth “double” in cash and contra to their previous deal.
“We have agreed with Telstra not to disclose the full value of that contract however we do acknowledge that it is double what we got in the last contract rights period.”
No, we know the telstra figure was undisclosed . Both telstra and nz totalled no more than 200M over 5 years, as stated by Grant.

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:25 pm
by pussycat
Arnt you able to read? or doesn't it suit you?

Telstra would not disclose the commercial value of the contract but ARLC chairman John Grant said the deal was worth “double” in cash and contra to their previous deal.
“We have agreed with Telstra not to disclose the full value of that contract however we do acknowledge that it is double what we got in the last contract rights period.”

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:04 pm
by pussycat

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:32 pm
by Xman
This means nothing, all it says is "reportedly".

Your doubling comment is irrelevant because the previous agreement was over a longer term of 6 years. You therefore can't just double the previous amount :roll:

you also need to show a source for your claim regarding the NRL deal

The fact is Grant tallied your entire deal in the following statement:

''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million.

Why would he say that if it wasnt true?

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:33 pm
by pussycat
Why would the NZ contract, signed a week ago, be included in the 2012 report ?

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:42 pm
by Xman
pussycat wrote:
Why would the NZ contract, signed a week ago, be included in the 2012 report ?
Grants comments were about the future contract
"Grant said that under the five-year, $1.025 billion broadcast deal, the game would earn $2 billion but only 10 per cent of that was not accounted for in expenditure.

''Our revenues in broadcast terms will more than double in the next year, and our commercial revenues are up by about 25 per cent so we are dealing with a lot more revenue, which is one of the reasons we have locked away $200 million in the growth fund over five years.

''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million.

''That is about $2 billion, and of that amount 10 per cent only will go into our growth fund - and it is not enough.''

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:15 pm
by pussycat
Xman wrote:
Grants comments were about the future contract
''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million......"

Note the word is???? It's not a word you use when your talking about the past.

A new deal with Telsta - but not a new deal with NZ. :wink:


There's no shame in finishing second. You beat home the ARU, the A League, Womens' athletics , aswell as the lawn bowlers and there walking frames.

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:22 pm
by piesman2011
pussycat wrote:
Xman wrote:
Grants comments were about the future contract
''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million......"

Note the word is???? It's not a word you use when your talking about the past.

A new deal with Telsta - but not a new deal with NZ. :wink:


There's no shame in finishing second. You beat home the ARU, the A League, Womens' athletics , aswell as the lawn bowlers and there walking frames.
:lol: :lol: is your name RaiderDave. Your grasping here. All media inc NZ and Telstra 1.2 billion. That's a good bit of money. No shame that it was a bit less then the AFL deal.

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:22 pm
by pussycat
piesman2011 wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Xman wrote:
Grants comments were about the future contract
''Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television and a new media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion, and commercial revenue is about $800 million......"

Note the word is???? It's not a word you use when your talking about the past.

A new deal with Telsta - but not a new deal with NZ. :wink:


There's no shame in finishing second. You beat home the ARU, the A League, Womens' athletics , aswell as the lawn bowlers and there walking frames.
:lol: :lol: is your name RaiderDave. Your grasping here. All media inc NZ and Telstra 1.2 billion. That's a good bit of money. No shame that it was a bit less then the AFL deal.
Broadcast funding [including New Zealand television] and a new [media rights deal with Telstra] is just over $1.2 billion.