Self funded By Tony Sage perth Glory owner and full set of mining sponsors ready to go.Raiderdave wrote:this is because of the extra live TV time slots they can add to a broadcasters scheduleXman wrote:Is that because of the massive ratings RL is getting in Perth?Raiderdave wrote:next to zero chance of this occuring
2015 ... 18 teams ... Perth & a 2nd Brisbane side coming in
lock it in
its as good as done.
Even the new RL commission seem to have gone cold on NRL expansion.
tens of millions a year
& unlike the VFL's new sides .. leeches sucking the life out of its comp like a vacume cleaner .. this Perth team will be self funded .. by billionaires
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Yet as tv ratings show, no one from Perth is interested in RL. Why would they be? There are no NRL players from Perth. The local comp is probably smaller than the local baseball comp.eelofwest wrote:Self funded By Tony Sage perth Glory owner and full set of mining sponsors ready to go.Raiderdave wrote:this is because of the extra live TV time slots they can add to a broadcasters scheduleXman wrote:Is that because of the massive ratings RL is getting in Perth?
Even the new RL commission seem to have gone cold on NRL expansion.
tens of millions a year
& unlike the VFL's new sides .. leeches sucking the life out of its comp like a vacume cleaner .. this Perth team will be self funded .. by billionaires
Aren't they getting regular single figure ratings results for live NRL?
King-Eliagh: ...I believe [RL] is popular in all the other states and territories, bar tasmania.
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1x7q4.htmlPerth is widely regarded as the best option as an 18th team, given the opportunity it presents with an additional time zone. However, both Nine and Fox Sports have expressed lukewarm interest in a Perth team.
Hmmm...
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Perth won't be left out. The networks (whether that be 9, Fox or 7) will want more games in Queensland which is understandable for a variety of reasons. Perth will also offer plenty for the networks. Perth and another QLD team (Bombers, Ipswich, whatever) are almost certainties at this point. $100 million for a new QLD team is up to 10% increase in revenue meaning that the extra income from the tv deal will cover the extra revenue that has to be distributed betwee the clubs. The NRL has said for a while that they want to delay expansion so that existing clubs can get a larger slice of the pie before new clubs are introduced
Perth won't be left out. The networks (whether that be 9, Fox or 7) will want more games in Queensland which is understandable for a variety of reasons. Perth will also offer plenty for the networks. Perth and another QLD team (Bombers, Ipswich, whatever) are almost certainties at this point. $100 million for a new QLD team is up to 10% increase in revenue meaning that the extra income from the tv deal will cover the extra revenue that has to be distributed betwee the clubs. The NRL has said for a while that they want to delay expansion so that existing clubs can get a larger slice of the pie before new clubs are introduced
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A Perth team would die again, just like last time. The only reason the storm are still around is they are bankrolled by news ltd and they've maintained a small following due to astonishing and sustained success. Imagine a Perth team with neither of these, and in a small city!justanotherleaguefan wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Perth won't be left out. The networks (whether that be 9, Fox or 7) will want more games in Queensland which is understandable for a variety of reasons. Perth will also offer plenty for the networks. Perth and another QLD team (Bombers, Ipswich, whatever) are almost certainties at this point. $100 million for a new QLD team is up to 10% increase in revenue meaning that the extra income from the tv deal will cover the extra revenue that has to be distributed betwee the clubs. The NRL has said for a while that they want to delay expansion so that existing clubs can get a larger slice of the pie before new clubs are introduced
The reds only existed a few seasons. They ended up with crowds around 6k and had accumulated a 10mil debt before being yanked from existence.
Perth love sport. They are passionate about sports that involve players originating from their state. This is something RL simply will not offer them.
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Xman wrote:Yet as tv ratings show, no one from Perth is interested in RL. Why would they be? There are no NRL players from Perth. The local comp is probably smaller than the local baseball comp.eelofwest wrote:Self funded By Tony Sage perth Glory owner and full set of mining sponsors ready to go.Raiderdave wrote:this is because of the extra live TV time slots they can add to a broadcasters schedule
tens of millions a year
& unlike the VFL's new sides .. leeches sucking the life out of its comp like a vacume cleaner .. this Perth team will be self funded .. by billionaires
Aren't they getting regular single figure ratings results for live NRL?
Bryson Goodwin (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Bronx Goodwin (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Cory Paterson (Newcastle Knights)
Jon Green (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Daniel Holdsworth (Salford City Reds)
Matt Petersen (Wakefield Trinity Wildcats)
Lee Te Maari (Parramatta Eels)
All from Perth
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Bryson Gibson is a kiwi and played juniors in the cronulla district league http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryson_Goodwinjustanotherleaguefan wrote:Xman wrote:Yet as tv ratings show, no one from Perth is interested in RL. Why would they be? There are no NRL players from Perth. The local comp is probably smaller than the local baseball comp.eelofwest wrote:Self funded By Tony Sage perth Glory owner and full set of mining sponsors ready to go.
Aren't they getting regular single figure ratings results for live NRL?
Bryson Goodwin (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Bronx Goodwin (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Cory Paterson (Newcastle Knights)
Jon Green (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Daniel Holdsworth (Salford City Reds)
Matt Petersen (Wakefield Trinity Wildcats)
Lee Te Maari (Parramatta Eels)
All from Perth
Bronx is also a kiwi. Wiki says nothing about him being recruited from a WA team.
Some of these guys play SL
That's more than I thought but still a very small list. There are currently 66 listed afl players from QLD and NSW.
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how many from sydney ?Xman wrote:Bryson Gibson is a kiwi and played juniors in the cronulla district league http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryson_Goodwinjustanotherleaguefan wrote:Xman wrote:Yet as tv ratings show, no one from Perth is interested in RL. Why would they be? There are no NRL players from Perth. The local comp is probably smaller than the local baseball comp.
Aren't they getting regular single figure ratings results for live NRL?
Bryson Goodwin (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Bronx Goodwin (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Cory Paterson (Newcastle Knights)
Jon Green (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Daniel Holdsworth (Salford City Reds)
Matt Petersen (Wakefield Trinity Wildcats)
Lee Te Maari (Parramatta Eels)
All from Perth
Bronx is also a kiwi. Wiki says nothing about him being recruited from a WA team.
Some of these guys play SL
That's more than I thought but still a very small list. There are currently 66 listed afl players from QLD and NSW.
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3
& .. how many from western sydney ?
1 ?
VFL ... 50miles north of the Murray ... it is irrellevant
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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The fact is the ARs comps in NSW and QLD are strong enough to produce a singinicant number of AFL quality players. The same cannot be said for RL comps outside NSW and Qld.Raiderdave wrote:how many from sydney ?Xman wrote:Bryson Gibson is a kiwi and played juniors in the cronulla district league http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryson_Goodwinjustanotherleaguefan wrote:
Bryson Goodwin (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Bronx Goodwin (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Cory Paterson (Newcastle Knights)
Jon Green (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Daniel Holdsworth (Salford City Reds)
Matt Petersen (Wakefield Trinity Wildcats)
Lee Te Maari (Parramatta Eels)
All from Perth
Bronx is also a kiwi. Wiki says nothing about him being recruited from a WA team.
Some of these guys play SL
That's more than I thought but still a very small list. There are currently 66 listed afl players from QLD and NSW.
2
3
& .. how many from western sydney ?
1 ?
VFL ... 50miles north of the Murray ... it is irrellevant
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Furthermore the Perth SGball team has 12 locals in the team.justanotherleaguefan wrote:Xman wrote:Yet as tv ratings show, no one from Perth is interested in RL. Why would they be? There are no NRL players from Perth. The local comp is probably smaller than the local baseball comp.eelofwest wrote:Self funded By Tony Sage perth Glory owner and full set of mining sponsors ready to go.
Aren't they getting regular single figure ratings results for live NRL?
Bryson Goodwin (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Bronx Goodwin (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Cory Paterson (Newcastle Knights)
Jon Green (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Daniel Holdsworth (Salford City Reds)
Matt Petersen (Wakefield Trinity Wildcats)
Lee Te Maari (Parramatta Eels)
All from Perth
So juniors starting to come through the system.
http://wareds.brandicoot.com.au/sg-ball/
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The fact is the ARs comps in NSW and QLD are strong enough to produce a singinicant number of AFL quality players. The same cannot be said for RL comps outside NSW and Qld.[/quote]Xman wrote:how many from sydney ?Raiderdave wrote:Bryson Gibson is a kiwi and played juniors in the cronulla district league http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryson_GoodwinXman wrote:
Bryson Goodwin (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Bronx Goodwin (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Cory Paterson (Newcastle Knights)
Jon Green (St. George Illawarra Dragons)
Daniel Holdsworth (Salford City Reds)
Matt Petersen (Wakefield Trinity Wildcats)
Lee Te Maari (Parramatta Eels)
All from Perth
Bronx is also a kiwi. Wiki says nothing about him being recruited from a WA team.
Some of these guys play SL
That's more than I thought but still a very small list. There are currently 66 listed afl players from QLD and NSW.
2
3
& .. how many from western sydney ?
1 ?
VFL ... 50miles north of the Murray ... it is irrellevant
the fact is no ones really gives a shit about giggleball 50 miles north of the murray
deal with it
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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Expansion for another Brisbane team looks likely with Perth getting the next.justanotherleaguefan wrote:RUGBY LEAGUE is guaranteed a $1.2 billion broadcasting deal, with monopoly pay-TV network Fox Sports declaring it won't be beaten for the five-year rights.
Fox Sports' new boss, Patrick Delany, has allayed fears of NRL club bosses his sports production company is complacent about the rights, saying for the first time the company will pay a just, competitive price to televise the code.
''We are motivated to bid strongly,'' Delany said, anticipating strong opposition from channels Seven and Ten.
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"Fox Sports still sees plenty of room for subscription growth among NRL fans" ... Patrick Delany, Fox Sports chief executive. Photo: Louie Douvis
Fox Sports has combined with Channel Nine to retain the rights they have held since the formation of the NRL at the end of the Super League war.
Nine has a first and last hold on free-to-air TV rights while Fox Sports has the same control over the pay-TV rights.
Both broadcasters will retain their opportunity to make a final, rights-clinching bid if their initial offer is not bettered by 20 per cent from a rival.
Because it's anticipated Seven and Ten will require a pay-TV partner to program all eight games a week, club bosses feared the combined Nine-Fox Sports bid would blow any rival out of the water.
Seven televises four AFL games a week, meaning it has limited programming space for rugby league, while Ten is cash poor. However, Nine and Fox Sports are aware cash-rich Seven could make what is called a ''swamper'' offer for all games, knowing it can onsell some to Fox Sports, which needs rugby league to retain subscribers in NSW and Queensland.
Alternatively, Seven and Ten could combine, as they have for AFL rights in the past.
Delany rejected fears the Nine-Fox Sports pact was designed to scare off rivals, pointing out a joint venture bid was outside those rights.
''The 'first' and 'last' are contained in the individual arrangements between broadcasters and the NRL,'' he said. ''Combining with Nine does not enhance or detract from existing rights. The driver reason for working with Nine is all positive - it goes to expanding rights contained in the current deals in order for Fox Sports to give life to new opportunities such as 'all games live' on Fox Sports. It also goes to joint production of games, which may reduce costs.''
Fox Sports, which shows five NRL games a week live, clearly wants to broadcast a further three games concurrently with Nine.
A similar relationship between Foxtel and Seven - achieved with their $1.25 billion AFL deal - has all nine AFL games shown live on pay TV.
It is working well, with Easter Monday's Hawthorn-Geelong game shown on both Seven and pay TV, with 334,400 fans preferring to watch the game on Fox Sports rather than free-to-air TV.
Delany allayed another fear that Fox Sports, having reached near saturation subscription levels in the rugby league states, would not be motivated to pay the same as Foxtel has outlaid for AFL where subscriptions in Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia are significantly lower.
''Fox Sports still sees plenty of room for subscription growth among NRL fans and general sports fans in NSW and Queensland,'' he said. ''While it is true that we have good subscription TV saturation in both NSW and Queensland, when, say, compared to Victoria, there is plenty of growth left, especially if we can get new ways to present the NRL, such as every game live.''
The recently approved merger between Foxtel and Austar opens up opportunities for Fox Sports because of rugby league's strong following in rural and regional NSW and Queensland.
The AFL has significantly less support in regional Australia, which is why the southern code traditionally uses six capital city numbers when it boasts about free-to-air ratings.
Delany also sought to allay fears rugby league is at a disadvantage to AFL because rugby league's broadcasting contract was with Fox Sports, while the AFL is with Foxtel.
Foxtel is half-owned by Telstra, with News Ltd and James Packer's Consolidated Media Holdings each owning 25 per cent. News Ltd and CMH each owns half of Fox Sports.
Fox Sports charges Foxtel for the supply of NRL programming, including the cost of the rights.
Effectively, this means Telstra money goes directly to the AFL for AFL rights, while Telstra money goes to Rupert Murdoch and James Packer for NRL rights.
This arrangement has long been viewed as a means of Murdoch and Packer using rugby league to pay for their outlay during the Super League war, a conflict fought over pay-TV rights.
Delany insists the arrangement is merely historical, rather than conspiratorial: ''When subscription TV was originally set up, Fox Sports was paid on the basis that it attracted and paid for the NRL rights within the fees paid to Fox Sports by Foxtel,'' he said. ''At that stage Foxtel had no AFL rights. When the opportunity came up to get AFL rights in 2002 [via Nine] - Foxtel bid for the rights and created the first Fox Footy channel. In 2007, Foxtel again attracted the AFL rights [via Seven] but asked us to produce the games as it was within our core expertise. The same happened in 2012.''
Recent Foxtel internal research demonstrates that rugby league is vital to the success of the network and, furthermore, there are significant opportunities for growth.
Yet Foxtel will not bid against Fox Sports for NRL rights.
A Foxtel spokesman cited ''commercial in-confidence'' when asked why Foxtel would not bid, and a Telstra spokeswoman said the telco's interests were protected by having a representative on the Foxtel board.
Rugby league players, clubs and officials will have a strong indication of what the game will receive in less than three weeks when Nine and Fox Sports tender their separate first offers, together with a combined one.
The existing $500 million six-year deal will certainly be exceeded but in the unlikely event the top bid falls short of $1 billion over five years, the new ARL Commission will probably insist on a short-term deal, knowing broadcasters demand surety in their planning and programming. They will gamble on this strategy driving the broadcasters back to the negotiating table.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z1s0NiAYAm
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-l ... 1x7q4.html
1.2B deal looking more possible now then ever.
A central Queensland bid is also well advanced and is led by one of the state's richest men, Geoff Murphy. A beef baron, Murphy says a Rockhampton-based team would be owned by the community, although he would maintain a significant shareholding.Can't you see this is a negotiating stratergy? I'd say its comes from LEK...
They have gone almost all the way through the exclusive 90 days tabling a 16 team comp and milking 9/Fox for what they can, meanwhile the threat of a looming 7 drives it up further.
Then with less than 30 days to run on the negotiations they wheel out expansion.
Two seperate bids - one for 16 teams, another for 18 teams. This leaves it to the ARLC's discression as to how long it remains 16 and 18. It can also look at the best value overall depending on how long they run it at 16 or 18.[/quote
Masters' is on the money.
This is where the $600 million simulcast number is coming from. Foxtel will still keep 4 exclusive games throughout the entirety of the contract and gain 1 simulcast game in years 3-5.
Hence 9 having to fork out more. Prelim estimates for the 3 games were $450 million but even that's gone up considering what's going.
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Murphy said a report he commissioned with LEK's Colin Smith demonstrated that an additional Queensland team would add significant extra value to a broadcasting contract. The ARLC will obviously monitor the financial health of the Titans before making any decision on a fourth Queensland team.''We want to capitalise on the huge playing numbers in the region,'' he said. ''The new Queensland government have promised us a 20,000-seat stadium if we win a licence.''
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Billionaires coming from everywhere. I guess thye ant to involved in the greatest games
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No surprises there. The tv ratings for live / prime time NRL in Perth are abysmal.Xman wrote:http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1x7q4.htmlPerth is widely regarded as the best option as an 18th team, given the opportunity it presents with an additional time zone. However, both Nine and Fox Sports have expressed lukewarm interest in a Perth team.
Hmmm...
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wonder how many western Sydneysiders will be tuned in to this arvos crows V tsunami blockbusterBeaussie wrote:No surprises there. The tv ratings for live / prime time NRL in Perth are abysmal.Xman wrote:http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1x7q4.htmlPerth is widely regarded as the best option as an 18th team, given the opportunity it presents with an additional time zone. However, both Nine and Fox Sports have expressed lukewarm interest in a Perth team.
Hmmm...
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RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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