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Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL hard

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:31 am
by Beaussie
Oh no. $1 Billioin you say?

You're dreamin sunshine. :<> :<> :<>
Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL hard
Nick Tabakoff
The Daily Telegraph
February 10, 201212:00AM

THE NRL's hopes of attracting $1 billion-plus for the broadcast rights to the game for the next five years have taken a major hit, with Telstra set to slash what it offers for the mobile and online rights.

The indications of a huge cut in the value of mobile and online rights have come from informed sources close to Telstra, the NRL's current rights-holder in the area.

The claim was yesterday backed by top independent media analyst Steve Allen of Fusion Strategy, who valued online and mobile rights now at "no more than $60 million".

Mr Allen's estimate is less than half of the $153 million paid by Telstra for the AFL broadcast rights late last year.


The slashing of estimated worth of the rights follows a Federal Court ruling last week that found Telstra rival Optus was not in violation of copyright by offering near-live sport through their new TV Now product on computers and mobile devices.

While the Federal Government has indicated it will urgently review the decision after lobbying from the NRL, the AFL and other sporting bodies, it may be some time before copyright law can be changed to prevent unauthorised streaming of live sport to mobile phones.

One source close to Telstra said the decision as is could "significantly diminish" the value of the online and mobile rights: "The sports bodies are the biggest losers in this, and the NRL is most imminently at risk given their content rights are up for negotiation."

NRL boss David Gallop yesterday conceded that if the Federal Court decision was not urgently dealt with, the downgrade in payments by rights-holders like Telstra would affect all parts of the game, "not only the NRL clubs" and players: "The impacts would go from players' salaries to ticket prices to junior registration fees," he said. "It will strip back funding to junior leagues, and potentially make the game more expensive for families who want to see their kids play junior rugby league."

Mr Gallop admitted the timing was "pretty bad from our point of view, as we are in our negotiation period (for the NRL rights) now".


Mr Allen went further, saying it was "a shocker for the NRL, which was in negotiations and could have expected a huge increase in the value of the online and mobile rights".

Mr Gallop said the likelihood of a lower offer from Telstra "simply underlines and puts into bold capital letters why this issue is urgent for sports".

Mr Allen said a big part of the $153 million Telstra had paid for the AFL online and mobile rights was for "exclusivity". With the final NRL rights deal for all media due to be completed by mid-year, and other rights deals imminent, there was pressure on the government to make urgent legislative changes to allow the sporting codes to maximise contracts.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6267200700

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:46 am
by Xman
Ohhhh, isn't that a shame. Meanwhile:

Telstra sticks with AFL contract
Asked if Telstra would walk away from the contract, signed last year, Mr Thodey said: "There is a lot of water still to go under the bridge".

"But the bottom line is that we have a long relationship with the AFL and I know that we will continue to drive value from that contract.

"We are pleased with the contract we have with the AFL."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaki ... 6266795305

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Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:58 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
Ohhhh, isn't that a shame. Meanwhile:

Telstra sticks with AFL contract
Asked if Telstra would walk away from the contract, signed last year, Mr Thodey said: "There is a lot of water still to go under the bridge".

"But the bottom line is that we have a long relationship with the AFL and I know that we will continue to drive value from that contract.

"We are pleased with the contract we have with the AFL."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaki ... 6266795305

:mrgreen: =D> :mrgreen: =D>
reading between the lines
so .... they're walking away then :wink:

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:05 am
by Raiderdave
Oh no. $1 Billioin you say?
well no

we say 1 Billion 8-[

& yes ... it will still happen ....just more tanty chucking from News Ltd
they will go looking for anyone who'll talk the NRL down & publish what they have to say

but that won't mean a thing when TV execs & Telstra sit down with the ARLC & Gallop

watch the grin on that four eyed nerds face when he still delivers it :D
it'll be like the cat that got the cream :wink:


whoo hoo

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:28 am
by Beaussie
Raiderdave wrote:
Oh no. $1 Billioin you say?
well no

we say 1 Billion 8-[

& yes ... it will still happen ....just more tanty chucking from News Ltd
they will go looking for anyone who'll talk the NRL down & publish what they have to say

but that won't mean a thing when TV execs & Telstra sit down with the ARLC & Gallop

watch the grin on that four eyed nerds face when he still delivers it :D
it'll be like the cat that got the cream :wink:


whoo hoo
You're delusional. Read what your own CEO says dopey.
NRL boss David Gallop yesterday conceded that if the Federal Court decision was not urgently dealt with, the downgrade in payments by rights-holders like Telstra would affect all parts of the game, "not only the NRL clubs" and players: "The impacts would go from players' salaries to ticket prices to junior registration fees," he said. "It will strip back funding to junior leagues, and potentially make the game more expensive for families who want to see their kids play junior rugby league."

Mr Gallop admitted the timing was "pretty bad from our point of view, as we are in our negotiation period (for the NRL rights) now".

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:33 am
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Ohhhh, isn't that a shame. Meanwhile:

Telstra sticks with AFL contract
Asked if Telstra would walk away from the contract, signed last year, Mr Thodey said: "There is a lot of water still to go under the bridge".

"But the bottom line is that we have a long relationship with the AFL and I know that we will continue to drive value from that contract.

"We are pleased with the contract we have with the AFL."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaki ... 6266795305

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reading between the lines
so .... they're walking away then :wink:
What part of "But the bottom line is that we have a long relationship with the AFL and I know that we will continue to drive value from that contract."We are pleased with the contract we have with the AFL." dont you understand??

Why would they walk away from a contract they have stated they will continue to drive the value of?? :?

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:36 am
by NSWAFL
Dave understands none of it, as the 4 BS points ably prove!

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:18 am
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Ohhhh, isn't that a shame. Meanwhile:

Telstra sticks with AFL contract
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaki ... 6266795305

:mrgreen: =D> :mrgreen: =D>
reading between the lines
so .... they're walking away then :wink:
What part of "But the bottom line is that we have a long relationship with the AFL and I know that we will continue to drive value from that contract."We are pleased with the contract we have with the AFL." dont you understand??

Why would they walk away from a contract they have stated they will continue to drive the value of?? :?
buttering up the AFL for the bad news I'd say ... softening the blow
& in any case .. if in the unlikely case that flogball does gets to keep their money

do you think Telstra don't have a strong relationship with the NRL ?
they are the naming rights holder of our comp

I can imagine how well Telstra telling the NRL they won't give us anywhere near as much for our online rights
despite
giving the AFL full value for theirs even though they are worthless... would go down
I'd love to see Telstra try that sh.it on :lol: :lol:
so they won't
if the AFL still get their bikkies even allowing for this court decision
then so will we. :wink:

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:55 am
by Xman
Lol buttering up the AFL by saying they are pleased with the current contract.

Somehow I take his word over yours

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:19 am
by NSWAFL
Yeah I agree with Xman. Dave is full of BS as the 4 BS points prove.

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:21 am
by cos789
The facts about this case are:
The AFL have the contract for the money.
The AFL will receive the money as they have a contract and online is still better than relayed FTA.
The NRL won't receive any monies or much anyway.
There needs to be a legislation change to protect intellectual property akin to the music industry.
Currently all Aussie professional sports are lobbying the government for change.
NRL cannot really afford the delay.

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:08 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
It'll effect the vfl more because they have more FTA games a week and in fact, nearly every game could be taken by optus because the home states have the home teams lol.



Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, you think if Optus wins that Telstra will still pay 150 million just to let optus show every game for free?



Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah, good luck.

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:20 pm
by cos789
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
you think if Optus wins that Telstra will still pay 150 million just to let optus show every game for free?

FITH doesn't undestand the concept of a contract.
FITH doesn't understand telstra will be supplying a live feed.
FITH doesn't that Optus will be showing delayed CH7.

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:25 pm
by Raiderdave
cos789 wrote:
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
you think if Optus wins that Telstra will still pay 150 million just to let optus show every game for free?

FITH doesn't undestand the concept of a contract.
FITH doesn't understand telstra will be supplying a live feed.
FITH doesn't that Optus will be showing delayed CH7.

by 2 minutes
for free

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

contract worthless ............... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Cut in value of mobile and online rights set to hit NRL

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:59 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
lol, poor old RL midnight Lurker def doesn't get it.

Every game maybe lol.