Talking Footy

Well we at the AFL are now really worried about this collaboration between Laurel and Hardy.


THE old firm of Ricky Stuart and Phil Gould is back together in a bid to break NSW's six-year Origin-losing streak and strike a serious blow on behalf of rugby league in its battle with the AFL for the hearts and minds of western Sydney.

The Daily Telegraph can today reveal Stuart has agreed to an approach from Gould to base the Blues in Penrith for the start of their Origin campaign ahead of game one in Melbourne on May 23.

It's a long way from the swanky digs the Blues had grown accustomed to in a posh Coogee in recent years.

Instead, they will be based in the game's heartland at Penrith - a move many will see as serious in the game's streetfight with the AFL.

With the team entrenched in Penrith, Gould - the Panthers general manager - will address the NSW team for the first time in years.

"When Gus spoke to me about the opportunity to start our preparations in Penrith, I saw it as a great chance to promote rugby league in the heartland and create the theme we need for Origin I," Stuart said.

"My job is to win Origin for NSW. The facilities in Penrith are first class, and the passion of the people in the west will ensure that the boys are switched on from the minute they are in camp."

The Daily Telegraph was at the table when Gould, Stuart and Panthers and Blues conditioner Ronnie Palmer met at Penrith Leagues Club last week to discuss the new State of Origin battle plan.

It is clear Stuart will take an even tougher mindset into this campaign than last year, when his side took the series to the decider at Suncorp Stadium. Losing seven straight series seems completely unacceptable.

The return of Gould, the most successful coach in Origin history who preceded Stuart as Blues coach in 2004, is already being considered a major windfall.

In the past, he has been reluctant to be involved with NSW teams when he hasn't been coaching.

"I talk to Gus a lot about football and Origin," Stuart said. "And there's no better person to speak about Origin than him."

The decision to base the Blues side at the foot of the Blue Mountains is equally telling.

Since his appointment as Penrith's general manager, Gould has been highly critical of the NRL and ARL administrations for failing to stop the push from the AFL into Sydney's western districts.

That battle is set to intensify this year when the Greater Western Sydney franchise plays its first season under Kevin Sheedy.

"This is a wonderful gesture by Ricky Stuart and his team, as they realise the importance of promoting our game in the real heartland of rugby league," Gould said.

"Ricky Stuart and the Blues will be given full access to our training fields and amenities - not to mention our wonderful club.

"The Blues will be conducting a coaching clinic for kids on the Monday afternoon, and on Tuesday afternoon there will be a huge fan day for anyone in western Sydney and the Blue Mountains who want to come and meet their Origin heroes."

Another code war article from guess which cities media?

Gould's heart may be in the right place as far as rugby league goes, but he needs a lot more back up than Stuart and the presently heartless Blues to get the job that he wants done. I think he knows deep down that everyone else thinks that AFL will just shrivel up and go away. And he knows they're wrong and if rugby league doesn't fight back AFL will win so many fans a third AFL team may be considered inside ten years!

But isn't Stuart a Canberran?

So moving from one part of Sydney to another is fear?

Tell me, what code dominates Sydney you two fruitloops?

Queensland has you lot covered, bub!

So, I love my Club and Country more than my state, I couldn't care less about SOO actually except putting shit on clowns like you and followers of Unionball.

Plus it's something else to watch during the week.

NSWAFL wrote:

Gould's heart may be in the right place as far as rugby league goes, but he needs a lot more back up than Stuart and the presently heartless Blues to get the job that he wants done. I think he knows deep down that everyone else thinks that AFL will just shrivel up and go away. And he knows they're wrong and if rugby league doesn't fight back AFL will win so many fans a third AFL team may be considered inside ten years!

But isn't Stuart a Canberran?

It seems a bit like rob Peter to pay Paul.
The Eastern Suburbs of Sydney has seen a lot of positives for AR in the last few years.
Some people might see this as rl abandonning ship.

So says Ian witchurch from the roar ^^^^^^^

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

So, I love my Club and Country more than my state, I couldn't care less about SOO actually except putting **** on clowns like you and followers of Unionball.

Plus it's something else to watch during the week.

Here's a point. Why don't they suck it up and play SOO on the weekend?

They did for years.

People wanted to see SOO and their clubs play, so it's better to have both midweek and weekend games being played instead of letting the AFL have the whole weekend australia wide to themselves.

But you wouldn't know anything about rep football, you follow VFL.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

instead of letting the AFL have the whole weekend australia wide to themselves.

so the reason is really fear

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

But you wouldn't know anything about rep football.

No, nothing but the fact that AR was the first major code in Australia to play SOO.

Was it, I thought all codes were playing against other states over 100 years ago, another lie from the queen of liars.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Was it, I thought all codes were playing against other states over 100 years ago.

I doubt it for rl because they were only formed in 1908.
Australian Football has been playing inter colonial matches for much longer than that.
In fact the states were colonies before 1901so iit's impossible to have interstate football past that.
The major Australian states and New Zealand played in the Australasian Championships.
But this has nothing to do with the fact that you must be an utter moron for not knowing the difference between
interstate football and state-of-origin football. I believe it was presented by the WAFL to the Australian National football Council. Maybe they invented SOO but Icannot go that far.

And rep football also applies to inter league play, which AFL does plenty of.

So NSW didn'[t p-lay Cricket, Union League against other states 100+ years ago, is that what you are saying?