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Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:35 am
by Terry
The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:41 pm
pussycat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:20 pm
point 6.) Exactly Leeroy, Fred was waffling on about how good a business man Rupert Murdoch is, yet neglects to tell us why Murdoch chose Rugby League to spearhead his new PTV business. Would seem a strange decision if AFL was a more valuable product.
In large part because AFL clubs were fully franchised with colours and logos owned by the league and had been since 1985, and the league had exclusive arrangements with most major foootball grounds around the country during the winter. Morever the AFL had already lived with the threat of a superleague and proven its ability to adapt to the circumstances in 1986 by expanding, increasing its media rights and licensing incomes, and the introduction of the Independent Commission in 1993.
And I mean sure Rupert bid high only because he hated the NRL Commission, just like the AFL got more the time before that because Packer was trying to screw them on his deathbed and the time before that for some reason, and the time before that because...i dont know but probably superleague related or some bullshit....
Fact is since the late 80s theres only been a 2 year period in the late 90s were the NRL were getting more for their media rights than the AFL.
Thanks for this Wookster! Just for clarity: Rupert didn't over-pay for the AFL's rights simply because he hated the NRL. He was pissed off because Dave Smith made his network secondary when he signed a record deal with 9 including 4 FTA games. It was about business and money. Not hate.
And the only person big Kerry was trying to screw was his broadcast nemesis Kerry Stokes. The NRL and AFL were just pawns. Kerry wanted to break 7 by forcing him to pay 'overs'. Fortunately for your fave sport they were beneficiaries and Stokes didn't go broke. Although 7 is drowning in red ink at the mo.
And superleague.............and who got the best deals...........all speculative my friend!!!! Probably better not to interpret history at this time. Needless to say though Fox has more subscriptions in NSW and Qld than the other states and RL gets Fox's biggest numbers year on year. Rather instructive I would think!
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:46 am
by pussycat
Wishful thinking Wookie. The ARL was an organisation that Rupert sponsored for years - he hardly hated it! He obviously admired the way it was run and wanted it . And he had a bit more opposition than club colours!, ARL, Packer and Optus all wanted it . And yes, it had taken them Some years to get back on there feet? Naturaly! it was not something that would happen overnight, not just a case of turning the tap back on. But it will be very interesting to see who gets what from Rupert next time.
And a Super League in the AFL - please. Who was it who wanted to take over the AFL?
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:58 am
by pussycat
2 more head to head wins today. Highest rating PTV game yesterday
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:02 pm
by Terry
Nine's coverage of RL is deadset rubbish. I watch it every now and then to see if it improves but it just gets worse. Their main commentator's are crap and the specialist commentators just waffle on like they're at a sunday afternoon fete.
Yesterday the 5 city FTA was 273k. Fox beat it with 299K. There is every chance that once Kayo and regional are factored in Fox will still out rate 9 nationally. Surely Huge Marks has gotta shake up the pathetic coverage. It's doing nothing for his network or the game.
Hopefully when it comes time to sell off the FTA rights in a couple of years 7 and 10 will take it over. 9 has had their day.
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:48 pm
by Fred
pussycat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:58 am
2 more head to head wins today. Highest rating PTV game yesterday
Why do you only post pay tv ?
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:54 pm
by NlolRL
pussycat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:58 am
2 more head to head wins today. Highest rating PTV game yesterday
By the looks of it the AFLs single game yesterday afternoon outrated the nrl despite not being shown into SA.
Didnt you say FN is the only time the AFL outrates the NRL?
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:55 pm
by Terry
Fred wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:48 pm
pussycat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:58 am
2 more head to head wins today. Highest rating PTV game yesterday
Why do you only post pay tv ?
Dunno Freddy........maybe he's comparing pay tv numbers! Just a thought.
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:39 pm
by pussycat
Fred wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:48 pm
pussycat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:58 am
2 more head to head wins today. Highest rating PTV game yesterday
Why do you only post pay tv ?
That s not right Fred. there were 2 games yesterday. The NRL won both! one was FTA & PTV, the other just PTV. As for Saturday we only had PTV . So how could I compare that head to head? But as usual we had the highest number of PTV viewers for any match in that one as well.
Fred your getting as bad and as desperate, as LOL with the excuses.
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:50 pm
by NlolRL
pussycat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:39 pm
Fred wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:48 pm
pussycat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:58 am
2 more head to head wins today. Highest rating PTV game yesterday
Why do you only post pay tv ?
That s not right Fred. there were 2 games yesterday. The NRL won both! one was FTA & PTV, the other just PTV. As for Saturday we only had PTV . So how could I compare that head to head? But as usual we had the highest number of PTV viewers for any match in that one as well.
Fred your getting as bad and as desperate, as LOL with the excuses.
Can you post the figures for this claim about FTA yesterday?
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:14 pm
by pussycat
No, don't need to. All figures aren't available . but common sense tells me we the good guys won, yet again.
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:46 pm
by NlolRL
pussycat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:14 pm
No, don't need to. All figures aren't available . but common sense tells me we the good guys won, yet again.
ok, lets count the figures we have so far:
NRL 299k STV, 273k FTA, estimated regionals 182k (2/3*FTA) = 754k
AFL 433k FTA, 211K STV, estimate regionals 144k (1/3*FTA) = 788k
But here's the kicker. The AFL wasnt shown into Adelaide, so there's 80-100k missing
Oh dear, poor NRL. Cant even outrate the AFL on Sunday without one of our key markets
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:56 pm
by pussycat
Not hard to tell you went to school in Victoria.
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:11 pm
by NlolRL
pussycat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:56 pm
Not hard to tell you went to school in Victoria.
ie you have no comeback at all
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:39 pm
by pussycat
The_Wookie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:32 pm
Terry wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:55 pm
Fred wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:48 pm
Why do you only post pay tv ?
Dunno Freddy........maybe he's comparing pay tv numbers! Just a thought.
Shit that doesnt work for us when it comes to not having Origin though. Just a thought.
You had PTV games at that time didnt you?
Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:50 pm
by NlolRL
NlolRL wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:46 pm
pussycat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:14 pm
No, don't need to. All figures aren't available . but common sense tells me we the good guys won, yet again.
ok, lets count the figures we have so far:
NRL 299k STV, 273k FTA, estimated regionals 182k (2/3*FTA) = 754k
AFL 433k FTA, 211K STV, estimate regionals 144k (1/3*FTA) = 788k
But here's the kicker. The AFL wasnt shown into Adelaide, so there's 80-100k missing
Oh dear, poor NRL. Cant even outrate the AFL on Sunday without one of our key markets
got your counter figures yet pussycat, or do you concede?