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Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:25 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
NlolRL wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:16 am
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:04 pm
NlolRL wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:30 pm

probably has more to do with the AFL trying to squeeze a season's games into fewer months. That's why they decrease game time, in an effort to reduce player fatigue due to a tighter playing schedule
Yes that too, but they had a Grand Final date in mind, and they reduced the length of the game to factor in this,

I still think tv viewing figures are up for 2 main reasons.

Game has been reduced (which is making the AVG look better) you will see the change next season
and Melbourne has been pretty much in Lock down with impressive viewing figures
So what you're also saying is the NRL have a big advantage in average ratings over the AFL because their game is shorter. Another reason why cumulative ratings over a season are meaningless
i would not say Big Advantage>> when looking at Numbers Slightly yes, but from a Broadcasting advertising point of view no

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:27 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
Fred wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:14 am
Are all games going to be in isolation for the next few weeks? will be interesting. Shitting time slots though with games starting at 5:30 - some earlier on a weekday - am hoping to go to a few Pies games - I imagine this will be hard for people with 9-5 jobs.
All games over the next 5 weeks are in Isolation.

there is only a total of 3 games played before 6pm..

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:49 pm
by NlolRL
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:25 pm
NlolRL wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:16 am
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:04 pm


Yes that too, but they had a Grand Final date in mind, and they reduced the length of the game to factor in this,

I still think tv viewing figures are up for 2 main reasons.

Game has been reduced (which is making the AVG look better) you will see the change next season
and Melbourne has been pretty much in Lock down with impressive viewing figures
So what you're also saying is the NRL have a big advantage in average ratings over the AFL because their game is shorter. Another reason why cumulative ratings over a season are meaningless
i would not say Big Advantage>> when looking at Numbers Slightly yes, but from a Broadcasting advertising point of view no
Even it's only a minor to moderate advantage to have a shorter telecast, say 5%, that would make a massive difference when adding ratings for over 200 games. Over 100mil ratings thats 5mil

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:15 pm
by pussycat
Ratings are an average.

Lockdown!

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:20 pm
by NlolRL
pussycat wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:15 pm
Ratings are an average.

Lockdown!
well you need to argue that with Leeroy. He agrees a shorter telecast helps the averages

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:37 pm
by pussycat
Wow , NRL not only killing them on fox, Kayo as well.


Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:04 pm
by SportCapital
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:20 pm
SportCapital wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:02 pm
NlolRL wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:16 am

So what you're also saying is the NRL have a big advantage in average ratings over the AFL because their game is shorter. Another reason why cumulative ratings over a season are meaningless
Let's not jump to conclusions there NlolRL.
We need to drill down on these inflated AFL figures.

Leeroy, exactly how have the AFL average viewership figures inflated by us shortening the game by 17% to 100 minutes?

Would you say they've inflate by a similar amount?

I await you reply....
by the game decreasing its game time overall, this creates less blowouts and more tighter games.
and yes 16mins less game time which is around 25mins overall in AFL Standards time on time off.
Figures from year 2020 and 2019 would you think would be higher >>> which you are seeing year on year.
increase by some margin.

add this and Melbourne in lockdown and you get a nice lift.
Leeroy, you said...
"Game has been reduced (which is making the AVG look better) you will see the change next season".

What "will" change? The average viewership?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:57 pm
by Fred
pussycat wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:15 pm
Ratings are an average.

Lockdown!
Are they ??? I think they are an estimate ?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:21 am
by leeroy*NRL*
SportCapital wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:04 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:20 pm
SportCapital wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:02 pm


Let's not jump to conclusions there NlolRL.
We need to drill down on these inflated AFL figures.

Leeroy, exactly how have the AFL average viewership figures inflated by us shortening the game by 17% to 100 minutes?

Would you say they've inflate by a similar amount?

I await you reply....
by the game decreasing its game time overall, this creates less blowouts and more tighter games.
and yes 16mins less game time which is around 25mins overall in AFL Standards time on time off.
Figures from year 2020 and 2019 would you think would be higher >>> which you are seeing year on year.
increase by some margin.

add this and Melbourne in lockdown and you get a nice lift.
Leeroy, you said...
"Game has been reduced (which is making the AVG look better) you will see the change next season".

What "will" change? The average viewership?
Yes Average will change next year, when AFL reverts back to Normal length Game and Australia (hopefully turns semi Normal)

There is no fluke to why viewing figures are up.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:46 am
by Fred
Could it be more games in isolation?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:55 am
by leeroy*NRL*
Fred wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:46 am
Could it be more games in isolation?
i think a slight increase on Isolation games, we are seeing more Prime time games this year and will continue to do so.

it is Smart by the AFL though, and the right move... if you cannot get much crowds> lets go full TV MODE>

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:53 pm
by SportCapital
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:21 am
SportCapital wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:04 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:20 pm


by the game decreasing its game time overall, this creates less blowouts and more tighter games.
and yes 16mins less game time which is around 25mins overall in AFL Standards time on time off.
Figures from year 2020 and 2019 would you think would be higher >>> which you are seeing year on year.
increase by some margin.

add this and Melbourne in lockdown and you get a nice lift.
Leeroy, you said...
"Game has been reduced (which is making the AVG look better) you will see the change next season".

What "will" change? The average viewership?
Yes Average will change next year, when AFL reverts back to Normal length Game and Australia (hopefully turns semi Normal)

There is no fluke to why viewing figures are up.
What amount do you believe the viewing figures are up due to the shortened game?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:52 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
SportCapital wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:53 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:21 am
SportCapital wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:04 pm


Leeroy, you said...
"Game has been reduced (which is making the AVG look better) you will see the change next season".

What "will" change? The average viewership?
Yes Average will change next year, when AFL reverts back to Normal length Game and Australia (hopefully turns semi Normal)

There is no fluke to why viewing figures are up.
What amount do you believe the viewing figures are up due to the shortened game?
few percent, add in other reasons stated. = Lift.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:06 pm
by SportCapital
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:52 pm
SportCapital wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:53 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:21 am


Yes Average will change next year, when AFL reverts back to Normal length Game and Australia (hopefully turns semi Normal)

There is no fluke to why viewing figures are up.
What amount do you believe the viewing figures are up due to the shortened game?
few percent, add in other reasons stated. = Lift.
Just a feeling or is that based on a calculation of the average I'm not aware of...?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:12 pm
by SportCapital
Hey Wookie,
I'm trying to drill down on Leeroys statement the the AFL viewership numbers are inflated due in part to the shorter games.

Do you have insight to the calculation used to do the ratings? Is time a factor?