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Foxtel playing hardball with 7 and 10 regarding AFL coverage

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Oh oh... :lol:

Looks like this is the first sign that all is not well with the AFL negotiations,and its becoming increasingly obvious that 7 and 10 have paid way overs on the AFL rights...

As I have been saying for months now... Sell your 7 and 10 shares now...

10 is especially vulnerable in my opinion.. they have been bankrupt before you know... :lol:

I honestly hope that 10 and 7 are forced to show games into Sydney live every Friday and Saturday night ( including non Swans games..) Can you imagine what a bath they will take in the ratings... :lol:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html
Fox plays hardball with Seven, Ten
16 August 2006 Herald-Sun
ANALYSIS by Damian Barrett

THE Channel 7-Ten consortium that secured the 2007-11 AFL TV rights has been involved - again - in talks with Foxtel.

Depending on with who one speaks, a deal to on-sell at least three of the eight weekly matches to the pay-TV network is either a matter of days or months away.

Either way, and for a variety of reasons, including legal, negotiations have been extremely difficult.

Clearly money is the biggest problem for Seven and Ten. There is lots of it to lose if they are not clever from here, as both, particularly Ten, committed way beyond budget in securing the AFL rights. :lol:

They do not want to be broadcasting eight weekly matches between them, and know Foxtel is desperate to retain AFL.

But Foxtel is not prepared to pay any price.
It has fought for access to the four weekly matches and access to the big timeslots it had secured in its agreement with Channel 9, but will settle - for a massively reduced price - for three games.

Foxtel was prepared to contribute up to $60 million a year in the Nine arrangement, but is understood to have offered as little as $17 million in talks with Seven and Ten.
:lol: :lol:

Five matches on free-to-air and three on pay-TV remains the most likely scenario for next year. But until Seven and Ten can crack the Foxtel conundrum, eight matches on free-to-air remains a possibility.

The AFL says it does not care how Channels 7 and Ten break up the matches for coverage from next year, simply because it will achieve everything it wants out of the TV deal, regardless of the broadcaster.

Matches on Friday and Saturday nights will be beamed live in to New South Wales and Queensland, most rounds will have a 5pm Sunday twilight fixture and $780 million will head the AFL's way.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said the TV stalemate was not a problem for the the league. "It's not for us, because we have an agreement with Seven and Ten to show our eight games next year," Demetriou said. "To finalise everything with another partner, I am sure they are conscious of having to do it soon in preparation for next year."

But eight months after the AFL sold its 2007-11 broadcast contract to Seven and Ten, the situation effectively remains as it was at the start of the year.

A few more weeks of stand-off between Seven-Ten and Foxtel, and the situation will become a major problem. Should it drag on beyond September, then it might even be referred to as a crisis.

Contrast the current situation with that of the previous awarding of AFL broadcast rights. When Nine, Ten and Foxtel secured the free-to-air rights for 2002-06, the AFL began a series of planning discussions with the successful networks in January 2001.

The AFL claims it can successfully compile a fixture for 2007 without knowing the network break-up of matches.

But can it? Surely, knowing which station is locked in to each timeslot is all but a pre-requisite for scheduling.

Then there are the associated problems for the networks, including acquirement of on-air talent, and alerting media buyers of the rates for advertising during coverage.

As one TV executive said this week: "Clearly, Foxtel is, and has been, playing hard ball. They need AFL, but not as much as Seven and Ten need them. Foxtel is the only one that can't lose from here."
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I honestly hope that 10 and 7 are forced to show games into Sydney live every Friday and Saturday night ( including non Swans games..) Can you imagine what a bath they will take in the ratings... :lol:
Gee I tell you who is in real trouble next year - Channel 9. Take away the AFL FNF ratings nationwide and there is no chance NRL FNF will ever make the top 50 programs nationwide for Channel 9. Channel 7 look to be the big winners continuing on from this year. Advertisers love a winner and Channel 7 is already smashing Channel 9. Just imagine the Friday night audience figures for Channel 9 without AFL FNF.

As for the rest of your post and the article you posted Willis, the following parts seem to be the biggest standouts and only concerns I would think from the AFL's perspective:
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html

Fox plays hardball with Seven, Ten
16 August 2006 Herald-Sun
ANALYSIS by Damian Barrett

They do not want to be broadcasting eight weekly matches between them, and know Foxtel is desperate to retain AFL.

The AFL says it does not care how Channels 7 and Ten break up the matches for coverage from next year, simply because it will achieve everything it wants out of the TV deal, regardless of the broadcaster.

Matches on Friday and Saturday nights will be beamed live in to New South Wales and Queensland, most rounds will have a 5pm Sunday twilight fixture and $780 million will head the AFL's way.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said the TV stalemate was not a problem for the the league. "It's not for us, because we have an agreement with Seven and Ten to show our eight games next year," Demetriou said. "To finalise everything with another partner, I am sure they are conscious of having to do it soon in preparation for next year."
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So you think that the AFL FNF will make the national top 50 as well?? :lol:

Did you see on the Brisbane Bandwagon thread that a match between the Western Bulldogs and Lions rated 270,000 NATIONALLY.... #-o

Also, if you think that the AFL is not worried about this, than you have got rocks in your head... If fox only pay $17Mil per year for three games, then there is no way that ten will be able to cough up there share of the AFL TV money... :lol:
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The Hard Ball continues.... this story really made my day...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20 ... 02,00.html
Footy channel to close
August 23, 2006 03:28pm


PAY television provider Foxtel will close its dedicated AFL channel at the end of the season.

While Foxtel is still trying to secure subscription rights beyond this year, it said today the Fox Footy channel would cease to exist.


"The positions taken by Seven and Ten and the delays and uncertainty over the future have left Foxtel with no option but to close its dedicated AFL Fox Footy Channel at the end of this season," Foxtel said in a statement.

Nine's parent company PBL part-owns Foxtel.
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Willis 21 wrote:
So you think that the AFL FNF will make the national top 50 as well?? :lol:

Did you see on the Brisbane Bandwagon thread that a match between the Western Bulldogs and Lions rated 270,000 NATIONALLY.... #-o

Also, if you think that the AFL is not worried about this, than you have got rocks in your head... If fox only pay $17Mil per year for three games, then there is no way that ten will be able to cough up there share of the AFL TV money... :lol:
As a footy fan living in NSW, the prospect of all eight games broadcast on FTA TV sounds fantastic. Can't wait until next season. Footy fest on FTA TV nationwide, something the NRL could only ever dream of. :thumbleft:
AFL backs complete free-to-air coverage
Friday Aug 25 19:25 AEST
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=125211

The AFL has embraced the prospect of channels Seven and Ten broadcasting all eight games each weekend on free-to-air television next year.

League chief executive Andrew Demetriou described as remote the chance of the Seven-Ten consortium finding a pay-TV licensee to offload up to four games a weekend from 2007-11.

If that is the case, Seven and Ten will be forced to televise all eight games a weekend between them from next year.

Foxtel, which broadcasts three games each weekend under its deal with incumbent broadcasters Nine and Ten, is currently not earmarked to televise games next year as it will axe its dedicated AFL channel at midnight after this year's grand final.

Foxtel has blamed the closure of Fox Footy on the lack of progress in the screening negotiations it had with Seven and Ten, which began over six months ago.

Talks at resolving the impasse are continuing between Seven, Ten and Foxtel, and the latter has said if an agreement was reached, its games would be shown on its new Fox Sports 3 service.

As Seven and Ten now scrabble to avoid televising games against each other, the AFL has made it clear to the networks it is up to them to work out how to ensure every game is televised, as part of the $780 million broadcast deal signed with the league.

Demetriou said the AFL would relish having all its matches shown on free-to-air television.

"We get on with the new agreement with Seven and Ten and we will have eight games on free-to-air on a national basis, and that will provide coverage on a national basis that we haven't had before," he said.

"Unless they (the Seven-Ten consortium) can do a deal with Foxtel or Fox 3 or whoever - and as time goes on that seems to be more unlikely - there will be football on channels Seven and Ten, which is terrific.

"Everyone has got a free-to-air television set, and for us to be going into NSW and Queensland on a Friday night, will be fantastic and we're looking forward to it."


Seven and Ten will be particularly keen to avoid televising games into NSW and Queensland against NRL matches broadcast on Nine.

Nine, which part-owns Foxtel, would also benefit if Seven and Ten could not find a sub-licensee, as the two networks would be forced to televise Saturday and Sunday matches against each other.
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Willis 21 wrote:
The Hard Ball continues.... this story really made my day...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20 ... 02,00.html
Footy channel to close
August 23, 2006 03:28pm


PAY television provider Foxtel will close its dedicated AFL channel at the end of the season.

While Foxtel is still trying to secure subscription rights beyond this year, it said today the Fox Footy channel would cease to exist.


"The positions taken by Seven and Ten and the delays and uncertainty over the future have left Foxtel with no option but to close its dedicated AFL Fox Footy Channel at the end of this season," Foxtel said in a statement.

Nine's parent company PBL part-owns Foxtel.
:lol: :lol: =D> =D> :lol: :lol:
Considering only approximately 20% of the Australian population have access to pay tv, the demise of Fox Footy aint as bad as some make it out to be. Having no footy will no doubt certainly hurt Foxtel in its drive for more subscriptions though.
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So what Brucey...your full of shit!
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