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Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:01 pm
by piesman2011
eelofwest wrote:Raiderdave wrote:The_Wookie wrote:wait so we get to add on the Toyota naming rights for the AFL too now right? gotta be apples with apples...thats more than 10 million per season according to the Heraldsun - in 2008 mind you, and that deal is ongoing., so we can tack on aother 50 million for the AFL right - and we should have done that for 2007-2011 as well just so we stay on the even keel here as it were.
However NO ONE is reporting over 100 million for NZ rights, it seems to be common knowledge that the NZ broadcaster doesnt want to pay more than it is already (14 million per year), and 100 million is the most optimistic guess Ive seen anywhere.
when one considers the accuracy singletballers have displayed with every single component of the NRL's rights deal
I mean .... they haven't been close on any of it
they still are making predictions .....
I'd give up if I were them ..as they clearly know sweet FA about it

http://sportsbusinessinsider.com.au/int ... -finances/
I think you will find Wookie you have not looked hard enough, rumors are that the NZ Sky deal could be worth up to 170m now with the Arrival of very popular All Black Sunny Bill williams.
National Rugby League clubs should be able to become operationally profitable on the back of the bumper new broadcast rights deal for Australia’s top rugby league competition, according to the body that represents the clubs.
NRL Club Council spokesman David Trodden told the Australian newspaper that the new five-year deals brokered by the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) will transform the financial fortunes of its 16 member clubs. Fox Sports and Nine retained the domestic rights to the league in deals totalling A$205 million (US$215 million) per year from 2013-17 – more than double the existing deals totalling A$100 million per year.
“There was always a view in club land about the TV deal delivering long-term financial viability for the clubs and the game,” NRL Club Council spokesman David Trodden told the Australian newspaper. “I think that this deal will do that. Fifteen out of 16 clubs have been operating at a loss and I think that this provides an opportunity for 16 of the 16 clubs to be on a solid financial footing and not make losses any more. It’s a pivotal moment in the history of the game.”
The broadcast and new media rights in New Zealand and the new media rights in Australia are yet to be sold by the ARLC, and could generate a further A$175 million over five years, according to various reports. The current total of A$1.025 billion over five years falls short of the five-year broadcast deal struck by the NRL’s arch-rival, the Australian Football League. However, Nine chief executive David Gyngell said the NRL was worth more “pound for pound” than the A$1.25 billion deal for the country’s top Australian rules competition from 2012-15.
Gyngell, whose network made a losing bid for the AFL rights, told Reuters: “As a television executive, they (the NRL) have struck a better deal in total than the AFL. (NRL) is the best sporting code on TV. It has the best ratings. We’re in good shape to give the AFL a run for their money.”
That is 175 million (AUS I hope not NZ) for NZ TV/online rights + New media rights in Australia. So thats not 170 million for NZ alone.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:47 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Oh Dave, whichever way you spin it, we got more

ah ..... no ya didn't
ya got less

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:23 pm
by Drac
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Oh Dave, whichever way you spin it, we got more

ah ..... no ya didn't
ya got less


Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:29 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
Honestly, who gives a fuck?
The Kiwi part is still to come and as we have seen with these Vfl experts before, they have no fucking idea considering a few in this thread thought the NRL wouldn't get 500 million (fucking dumbarses).
RL has got over a billion dollars for this next round or TV rights, good, bout time the two stations that tried to kill it stumped up the cash, good, now pay it and fuck off and die.
As for the code war shit, I don't care, RL has taken the best that Vfl, Union and Soccer could throw at them for years when they were broke, the NRL isn't broke now so it seems about right that the code starts throwing a few punches back.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:34 pm
by piesman2011
ParraEelsNRL wrote:Honestly, who gives a fuck?
The Kiwi part is still to come and as we have seen with these Vfl experts before, they have no fucking idea considering a few in this thread thought the NRL wouldn't get 500 million (fucking dumbarses).
RL has got over a billion dollars for this next round or TV rights, good, bout time the two stations that tried to kill it stumped up the cash, good, now pay it and fuck off and die.
As for the code war shit, I don't care, RL has taken the best that Vfl, Union and Soccer could throw at them for years when they were broke, the NRL isn't broke now so it seems about right that the code starts throwing a few punches back.
Excellent post Parra.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:37 pm
by Xman
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:45 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
You guys, $100 million for the online rights plus NZ too come suggests
More than $100 million doesn't it?
When it reaches $200 million (which it will and deep down it scares you), that will mean
exactly what I said when I said
ParraEelsNRL wrote:Yep, and RL still has more money to come in, a couple hundred million AT LEAST
Xdumbarse, thank's for posting that, you have so far proved me right and you idiots wrong. A couple is what exactly xman, isn't it two, followed by a few being three?
So WTF did I write in that quoted post, was it a
Couple of Hundred Million?
Or did I say a
Few Hundred Million?

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:48 pm
by Drac
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:
ah no .... this 200 Million plus is EXTRA ... on top of ... not included in ... is seperate from
got it d head ?
NRL ... 250 Million more disposable cash

ah no. The AFL earn more cash, they just chose to spend it on things like new teams, stadiums, development etc.. The NRL will spend theirs also. When they do can we subtract it like you fools do?

we've got 225 million set aside for our future fund
so thats 880 Million left from our total cash revenue from our rights deal
the VFL has a future fund of a similar size I'd say
225 to 250 Million
&
another 225 million on its 2 new sides who are hoovering the cash out like its free
do the math d head
who's got more dough ...
talk about closing a gap overnight .....

1) your 'maths' fails to take into account non-broadcast rights revenue....
2) I'm curious, what do you think the purpose of money is? To be hoarded in a pile Smaug-style?
Money is - at its most basic level - to buy things. To have a pile of money is not its own end. If you're not investing it in growth, it loses all meaning. I'm not talking about the future funds the nRL and AFL have, putting money aside for a rainy day is important. But to claim that the NRL is closing the gap because the AFL is choosing to invest their money in growing the league and the sport, while the nRL doesn't, is so ridiculous that it defies logic.
Who's got more dough?

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:53 pm
by Xman
ParraEelsNRL wrote:You guys, $100 million for the online rights plus NZ too come suggests
More than $100 million doesn't it?
When it reaches $200 million (which it will and deep down it scares you), that will mean
exactly what I said when I said
ParraEelsNRL wrote:Yep, and RL still has more money to come in, a couple hundred million AT LEAST
Xdumbarse, thank's for posting that, you have so far proved me right and you idiots wrong. A couple is what exactly xman, isn't it two, followed by a few being three?
So WTF did I write in that quoted post, was it a
Couple of Hundred Million?
Or did I say a
Few Hundred Million?

25m for media right, 100m when including naming rights. Maybe 80m for NZ equals about 100m all up for NZ and media rights
Fail again parra

Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:57 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
$25 million, are you fully ********, or pretty much just below full blown retardation?
Where the fuck do you Vfl fans get $25 Million from?
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:58 pm
by piesman2011
Most of the media rights was packaged away to fox already so it is impossible to stay how much the media rights were sold for. Its all a bit of smoke and mirrors trying to make their deal look bigger then it really is. But having said that it is still going to be the second biggest deal for Sports TV/media rights in Australia and only a little off the first placed rights.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:59 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
$5 million a year aye Xtard?
I'd love to see a link where the NRL will be getting $5 million a year for their online rights, back it up with some facts boggerboy or admit you're nothing but a lying piece of shit.
Naaaaa, you can't admit anything, you're a pathetic fraud.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:00 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
piesman2011 wrote:Most of the media rights was packaged away to fox already so it is impossible to stay how much the media rights were sold for. Its all a bit of smoke and mirrors trying to make their deal look bigger then it really is. But having said that it is still going to be the second biggest deal for Sports TV/media rights in Australia and only a little off the first placed rights.
Prove it, should be easy so go for it mr knows everything about RL from what clubs make to when the eels ceo takes a dump.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:00 pm
by piesman2011
ParraEelsNRL wrote:$25 million, are you fully ********, or pretty much just below full blown retardation?
Where the fuck do you Vfl fans get $25 Million from?
25 million comes for 100 million take away 75 million for the naming rights (which was how much the NRL got last time). So some are figuring that the media rights are worth 25 million.
Re: NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:03 pm
by Xman
ParraEelsNRL wrote:$5 million a year aye Xtard?
I'd love to see a link where the NRL will be getting $5 million a year for their online rights, back it up with some facts boggerboy or admit you're nothing but a lying piece of shit.
Naaaaa, you can't admit anything, you're a pathetic fraud.
Someones a bit testy today...
Whats wrong Parra?
Telstra were already paying the NRL 75M over 5 years for the naming rights. Now theyre paying 100M for naming and media rights. Thats 25M for media rights isnt it? =D>