Options for a lopsided comp

[King-Eliagh]

Of course overall crowds and ratings went up. There were more games ya stupid zit! Get with the program Xman, the credibility of the competition has gone down massively and the AFL cant continue supporting the clubs who are struggling forever, it's quite simply unsustainable. The AFLs expansion and financial problems are comparable to global warming. Drastic change is required and I'd like my fellow members here at talking footy to share and provide options to fix it. I'd expect our AFL supporters to be most passionate about this massive issue. Don't be skeptics all ur lives folks!

[Xman]

Of course overall crowds and ratings went up. There were more games ya stupid zit! Get with the program Xman, the credibility of the competition has gone down massively and the AFL cant continue supporting the clubs who are struggling forever, it's quite simply unsustainable. The AFLs expansion and financial problems are comparable to global warming. Drastic change is required and I'd like my fellow members here at talking footy to share and provide options to fix it. I'd expect our AFL supporters to be most passionate about this massive issue. Don't be skeptics all ur lives folks!

Wrong! There were the same number of games last year as the year before! Yet crowds, revenue and ratings rose.

So where is this negative affect KE?

[King-Eliagh]

Wasn't the rise miniscule? I'd prefer you to calculate the avgs against the 2011 season when GWS weren't in there and the basketcase league hadn't yet fully formed or become incorporated under my leadership.

That'll be a much more valid indication xman.

[adamj1300]

Of course overall crowds and ratings went up. There were more games ya stupid zit! Get with the program Xman, the credibility of the competition has gone down massively and the AFL cant continue supporting the clubs who are struggling forever, it's quite simply unsustainable. The AFLs expansion and financial problems are comparable to global warming. Drastic change is required and I'd like my fellow members here at talking footy to share and provide options to fix it. I'd expect our AFL supporters to be most passionate about this massive issue. Don't be skeptics all ur lives folks!

Wrong! There were the same number of games last year as the year before! Yet crowds, revenue and ratings rose.

So where is this negative affect KE?

now for the NRL's ratings

[Xman]

Wasn't the rise miniscule? I'd prefer you to calculate the avgs against the 2011 season when GWS weren't in there and the basketcase league hadn't yet fully formed or become incorporated under my leadership.

That'll be a much more valid indication xman.

A rise is a rise! Certainly indicates there was no negative impact as you're suggesting, doesn't it KE?

[King-Eliagh]

Ah. reread my post champ.

I'd imagine the miniscule rise was less than equivalent to the rise in population over the year. Lets compare with 2011 shall we?

[Xman]

Ah. reread my post champ.

I'd imagine the miniscule rise was less than equivalent to the rise in population over the year. Lets compare with 2011 shall we?

So the rise in population all attended and watched the AFL did they? :_<>

Keep trying KE. I'm sure you'll find a negative impact eventually :_<>

[King-Eliagh]

Oh dear. do you know what equivalent means in terms of what I was saying re crowd rise? Lemme help ya. Pop increases by 0.2 percent from 2012-2013. AFL avg crowd prob rose by the same miniscule margin. Comprehende?

And why you avoiding the 2011 comparisons Xman? You think it'll show sometin bad?

[Xman]

Oh dear. do you know what equivalent means in terms of what I was saying re crowd rise? Lemme help ya. Pop increases by 0.2 percent from 2012-2013. AFL avg crowd prob rose by the same miniscule margin. Comprehende?

And why you avoiding the 2011 comparisons Xman? You think it'll show sometin bad?

So all the new babies and immigrants attended the AFL?

What happened to the NRLs drop in crowds? Population decline?

[King-Eliagh]

Don't worry about statistical analysis ok, you don't get it.

2011 Xman? U afraid?

NRL just dropped, not a great thing, I can admit that cause im a man and honest. It doesn't make me cringe like the afls issues does to you.

[Xman]

Don't worry about statistical analysis ok, you don't get it.

2011 Xman? U afraid?

NRL just dropped, not a great thing, I can admit that cause im a man and honest. It doesn't make me cringe like the afls issues does to you.

So the NRL dropped, and the AFL rose. And you're claiming the AFL were the ones suffering a negative impact?

Oh this is so funny! :_<>

[King-Eliagh]

2011? For those who have perspective that reaches a lil further than their a hole, heres the reason Xman couldn't nor wouldn't go there


AFL Home & Away

Year Attendance GM Ave.

2013 6368346 198 32163
2012 6238876 198 31509 <<<<< GWS Giants enter comp
2011 6525071 187 34893 <<<<< GC suns enter comp
2010 6495814 176 36908

So since 2010 the AFL has experienced a drop of almost 5k in avg crowd attendances during the home and away season. That's a whopping significant 14% decline in the avg attendance of every match. Massive. The NRL for the same period NRL crowds have dropped 500, or in % terms a statistically insignificant amount of approx. 3%.

Folks there's a serious problem going on here. Xman will crow till the cows come home that there's a larger total attendance but what he's denying is the additional 12 games per year where fans are going to watch their team play. The stats clearly show fans aren't as interested in going to see their team play as often these days. It's not just GWS and GC that's causing this, those teams play away from home every second week. It's them and the other basketcases that fans of AFL teams are saying, like me and the swans, you know what...I'm not gunna bother going to watch the swans play Melbourne even tho I gotta free ticket. Why? Its a foregone conclusion.

I went to watch the swans play brissie last year at the scg and even though I love watching brissie get belted I found myself bored in the first quarter. I think the swans were up by almost 50 in the first quarter. The rest of the match was a snore fest. Crowd were literally quiet enough to go to sleep in the third and fourth quarters. ... ... ... the match was over.

People have better things to do with their time than go to an event as predictable as we've seen in the AFL the last few years. Its a massive problem folks and I sure as hell hope you AFL supporters can be proactive now, not apathetic like Xman. Lets acknowledge this massive problem. The comp is lopsided to billio and I for one am happy to lead a march to AFL headquarters with you all holding signs saying exactly that!

Are yas in!?

[Xman]

2011? For those who have perspective that reaches a lil further than their a hole, heres the reason Xman couldn't nor wouldn't go there


AFL Home & Away

Year Attendance GM Ave.

2013 6368346 198 32163
2012 6238876 198 31509 <<<<< GWS Giants enter comp
2011 6525071 187 34893 <<<<< GC suns enter comp
2010 6495814 176 36908

So since 2010 the AFL has experienced a drop of almost 5k in avg crowd attendances during the home and away season. That's a whopping significant 14% decline in the avg attendance of every match. Massive. The NRL for the same period NRL crowds have dropped 500, or in % terms a statistically insignificant amount of approx. 3%.

Folks there's a serious problem going on here. Xman will crow till the cows come home that there's a larger total attendance but what he's denying is the additional 12 games per year where fans are going to watch their team play. The stats clearly show fans aren't as interested in going to see their team play as often these days. It's not just GWS and GC that's causing this, those teams play away from home every second week. It's them and the other basketcases that fans of AFL teams are saying, like me and the swans, you know what...I'm not gunna bother going to watch the swans play Melbourne even tho I gotta free ticket. Why? Its a foregone conclusion.

I went to watch the swans play brissie last year at the scg and even though I love watching brissie get belted I found myself bored in the first quarter. I think the swans were up by almost 50 in the first quarter. The rest of the match was a snore fest. Crowd were literally quiet enough to go to sleep in the third and fourth quarters. ... ... ... the match was over.

People have better things to do with their time than go to an event as predictable as we've seen in the AFL the last few years. Its a massive problem folks and I sure as hell hope you AFL supporters can be proactive now, not apathetic like Xman. Lets acknowledge this massive problem. The comp is lopsided to billio and I for one am happy to lead a march to AFL headquarters with you all holding signs saying exactly that!

Are yas in!?

surely you aren't this stupid!

KE, what happens when a comp with an average crowd over 36k introduces 2 new team with average crowds around 11k? Think about it, think really hard....... :_<>

The only way you can compare growth is to compare like for like. Last year the AFL crowds and ratings grew on the previous year, and the NRL declined, both based on the same conditions as the year before.

[King-Eliagh]

I've thought about it deeper than you xman my shallow friend. 2 new teams. Why do they avg so low xman? Well firstly they obviously weren't wanted by their local communities and in the GWS case they were positioned very poorly, a stones throw from the premiership winning swans. But they play every second game away from home, usually in Melbourne. Don't the Melbournians wanna see the two new guys in the AFL? Arent they interested?

Answer. No. They're not at all fukking interested because the AFL completely stuffed it up. The teams are shithouse and don't deserve paid ticket sales. That's why. On top of these two second and third rate sides we have Melbourne and brissie playing just as bad and in many cases worse! Do people wanna pay and see them also? No. Then you've got stkilda and the bulldogs who look as though theyre trained to lose. Its quite the shambles down there but if they're divided into two leagues, one being the basketcase league, then we can see two good competitions running. That's why ive done it xman, to show the positive that's still there amongst all the shit results week in week out.


ps folks I've talked with beaussie and he's endorsed me, as Basketcase Leagues CEO, to go forward and hold a basketcase league tipping comp. I'm dead serious about this folks. It'll be free entry and I'll be putting my hard earned in for cash prizes for our winners . I want atleast 6 members to join in the comp for it to run so watch this space! There'll be more info to come, cant wait!!!

[NRLCrap1]

EVERY new club has a low pull, goose!!