Talking Footy

The_Wookie wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:32 pm

pussycat wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:17 pm

And I never said you didn't publish the results(where possible). And I'm appreciative of all the work that you put in.

Just out of curiosity were any estimates used in the 1st 17 rounds?

3 games had to have regionals estimated before round 22. The NRL ratings are actually pretty easy to do because we have probably 90% of the data,

Due to the nature of AFL ratings, ive probably only got regionals for the main thu.fri.sat matches, but not the rest, although i had 4 or 5 good weeks in the middle that will have to do estimate wise (as a rule i need at least 4 proper data points before im happy to make an estimate, even better if they are scattered throughout the year).

Its not the NRL ones that are the problem, its the missing AFL regional data.

AFLcrap1 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:29 pm

So let me imagine I'm a fumblefan for a minute
How do I try to make sure that AFL wins the ratings for the year .

Firstly lets discount any top level RL games that are not part of the H&A season
So that's SOO & internationals gone

Next let's try to ignore the fact that we the AFL have one more FTA game each round .
Let's focus that some games are concurrent...wooooo that's a big negative .....yep let's just ignore they're shown into home markets to maximise ratings ..um .we will think of some excuse if this point is raised .

In the NRL they can't count NZ ratings for their home team ...
So that gives us aflolers the ratings for 18 teams each week v only 15 for the NRL .

Yep that's fair ...

Feel free to add anything that I've missed

Terry wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:36 pm

The_Wookie wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:32 pm

pussycat wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:17 pm

And I never said you didn't publish the results(where possible). And I'm appreciative of all the work that you put in.

Just out of curiosity were any estimates used in the 1st 17 rounds?

3 games had to have regionals estimated before round 22. The NRL ratings are actually pretty easy to do because we have probably 90% of the data,

Due to the nature of AFL ratings, ive probably only got regionals for the main thu.fri.sat matches, but not the rest, although i had 4 or 5 good weeks in the middle that will have to do estimate wise (as a rule i need at least 4 proper data points before im happy to make an estimate, even better if they are scattered throughout the year).

Its not the NRL ones that are the problem, its the missing AFL regional data.

RL has many regional teams and much bigger populations in it's regional areas than the AFL. Maybe the AFL regional ratings just don't register because their so small.

The_Wookie wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:34 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:29 pm

So let me imagine I'm a fumblefan for a minute
How do I try to make sure that AFL wins the ratings for the year .

Firstly lets discount any top level RL games that are not part of the H&A season
So that's SOO & internationals gone

Next let's try to ignore the fact that we the AFL have one more FTA game each round .
Let's focus that some games are concurrent...wooooo that's a big negative .....yep let's just ignore they're shown into home markets to maximise ratings ..um .we will think of some excuse if this point is raised .

In the NRL they can't count NZ ratings for their home team ...
So that gives us aflolers the ratings for 18 teams each week v only 15 for the NRL .

Yep that's fair ...

Feel free to add anything that I've missed

I produce all data segmented, as well as totalled, so everyone, on all sides of the data gets what they need, and as i generally do, Ill even release the spreadsheet i used for the year for anyone to download and draw their own conclusions.

NlolRL wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:37 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:29 pm

So let me imagine I'm a fumblefan for a minute
How do I try to make sure that AFL wins the ratings for the year .

Firstly lets discount any top level RL games that are not part of the H&A season
So that's SOO & internationals gone

Next let's try to ignore the fact that we the AFL have one more FTA game each round .
Let's focus that some games are concurrent...wooooo that's a big negative .....yep let's just ignore they're shown into home markets to maximise ratings ..um .we will think of some excuse if this point is raised .

In the NRL they can't count NZ ratings for their home team ...
So that gives us aflolers the ratings for 18 teams each week v only 15 for the NRL .

Yep that's fair ...

Feel free to add anything that I've missed

Sure. I'll add the NRL show EVERY game in isolation, maximising ratings. They show the Broncos on FTA prime time just about every week to maximise ratings. They show SOO stand alone so it maximises ratings. They show their GF in prime time to maximise ratings. They play few if any afternoon games which rate less.....

AFLcrap1 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:02 pm

Shows how far removed from reality these fumblers are


Few if any RL games are played in the afternoon .


Lol
Let the rampant stupidity of that sink in

NlolRL wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:05 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:02 pm

Shows how far removed from reality these fumblers are


Few if any RL games are played in the afternoon .


Lol
Let the rampant stupidity of that sink in

rubbish. How many NRL games per round are shown prior to 4pm?

Terry wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:08 pm

Who cares Lololololololololololol. Go back and play in the sandpit pal.

NlolRL wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:05 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:02 pm

Shows how far removed from reality these fumblers are


Few if any RL games are played in the afternoon .


Lol
Let the rampant stupidity of that sink in

rubbish. How many NRL games per round are shown prior to 4pm?

Sure. I'll add the NRL show EVERY game in isolation, maximising ratings. They show the Broncos on FTA prime time just about every week to maximise ratings. They show SOO stand alone so it maximises ratings. They show their GF in prime time to maximise ratings. They play few if any afternoon games which rate less.....

AFLcrap1 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:56 pm

NlolRL wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:05 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:02 pm

Shows how far removed from reality these fumblers are


Few if any RL games are played in the afternoon .


Lol
Let the rampant stupidity of that sink in

rubbish. How many NRL games per round are shown prior to 4pm?

Rubbish ..yes you speak lots of it
& who decided that 4pm is not in the afternoon .
It's not morning .
It's not night

Including the 4pm slot over 1/4 of aour games are in the afternoon .
Usually out of 8 games per weekend
We have 3 afternoon games
Sat 3pm
Sun
2 pm
Sun 4 pm .

You talk utter shit as usual

pussycat wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:44 pm

Sure. I'll add the NRL show EVERY game in isolation, maximising ratings. They show the Broncos on FTA prime time just about every week to maximise ratings. They show SOO stand alone so it maximises ratings. They show their GF in prime time to maximise ratings. They play few if any afternoon games which rate less.....

Monday night AFL 1 or 2
Wednesday night RL = 3
Thursday night - probably a dozen, AFL probably about 3 or 4.
Friday Night RL = 2 or 3, AFL = 30 to 40m for all 23 matches.
Saturday RL = 0, AFL = Many games
Saturday Night = 1, AFL = 18
Sunday RL = 4,

NlolRL wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:55 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:56 pm

NlolRL wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:05 pm

rubbish. How many NRL games per round are shown prior to 4pm?

Rubbish ..yes you speak lots of it
& who decided that 4pm is not in the afternoon .
It's not morning .
It's not night

Including the 4pm slot over 1/4 of aour games are in the afternoon .
Usually out of 8 games per weekend
We have 3 afternoon games
Sat 3pm
Sun
2 pm
Sun 4 pm .

You talk utter shit as usual

well I'd call a game starting after 4pm late afternoon into evening. But anyway, you have 3 from 8, we have 5 from 9.