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Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:37 pm
by AFLcrap1
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Can u explain why the Midgets didnt get 20k on Sat ?
Why did no one turn up ? :-k

Fine weather
4v 5
No other sport on at all in Sydney at the time

4000 :(/ :_<> :lol:
the giants are an expansion team. They still got 1000 more people than the tigers who played on the same day under similar condidtions
Similar conditions 8-[
The sun was shining brightly at 7.40pm was it wanker ? :(/ :_<> :lol:
so RL fans are scared of the dark? :?

:(/
No .
But it appears some AFL fans are scared of dark skin .
:wave: :wave: :wave:

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:00 pm
by Xman
really? You do realise we get more people at our games right? They dont seem scared at all

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:07 pm
by Swans4ever
Hahaha Ol bubbler boy he can't seem to stay on topic xman, you win hands down xman!!!

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:18 pm
by AFLcrap1
How's that sarge .
Media in a frenzy over the racism in AFL .

I'm on the money with the Dark Skin scares some fumblers

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:19 pm
by Xman
Thats odd. It's unusual for the media to blow things up

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:22 pm
by AFLcrap1
Easy ,when racist McCHINS is mouthing off .

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:28 pm
by Xman
AFLcrap1 wrote:
Easy ,when racist McCHINS is mouthing off .
Cant say Ive heard any racist comment come from Eddie over this latest Goodes issue

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:51 pm
by Swans4ever
AFLcrap1 wrote:
How's that sarge .
Media in a frenzy over the racism in AFL .

I'm on the money with the Dark Skin scares some fumblers
The media is in the business to sell the news, I don't think Aboriginals scare anyone - personally I would rather have Adam Goodes who is proud of who he is and challenges ideas and viewpoints than the stereotypic image of Aboriginals being drunkards or thiefs etc etc. Like Cathy Freeman, Lional Rose, Mal Maninga or even Anthony Mundine (who has been portrayed much the same a Goodes). Positive images are always better but any image that tells kids you can become anything regardless of race is a good thing. I have not entered into this debate as I am a Swans supporter and already have a vested interest BUT nonetheless I support everything Goodes has done and said even if it is confronting, as I have first hand seen the poverty that Koori kids live in anything is better than living in a hopeless situation without any hope for the future.

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:16 pm
by leagueiscrap
AFLcrap1 wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Can u explain why the Midgets didnt get 20k on Sat ?
Why did no one turn up ? :-k

Fine weather
4v 5
No other sport on at all in Sydney at the time

4000 :(/ :_<> :lol:
the giants are an expansion team. They still got 1000 more people than the tigers who played on the same day under similar condidtions
Similar conditions 8-[
The sun was shining brightly at 7.40pm was it wanker ? :(/ :_<> :lol:
so RL fans are scared of the dark? :?

:(/
No .
But it appears some AFL fans are scared of dark skin .
:wave: :wave: :wave:
nice attempt anyway at deflection about your son dribbler dave being scared of the dark :)))

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:43 am
by AFLcrap1
http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2015/06 ... aste-cash/


Why the Gold Coast Suns are a waste of AFL cash

10:00pm, Jun 8, 2015
Anthony Colangelo Youth Affairs Reporter

With millions poured in, draft concessions and salary cap help, the Suns are looking like a hopeless splurge.

The Suns leave the field despondent after another loss in 2015. Photo: Getty

In May 2014 there was palpable excitement and optimism for the Gold Coast Suns, although in 2015 it’s anything but – they’re looking more like an enormous waste of millions of dollars every week.

By round 10 of the 2014 season, the Suns’ record was seven wins and three losses, but at the same point this season it’s nine defeats and one win, not to mention their off-field indiscretions.

The fact is the AFL have splurged millions of dollars on the club but their current performance, attitude and state of disarray makes that outlay look a diabolical decision.

The promising start to 2014 was lauded as the coming of age for a club in its fourth season, a club that was built from the ground up with significant cash injections and player acquisition concessions.

Now in its fifth season, the hope of 2014 has all but disappeared and it looks as if the cushy handouts and liberal draft allowances have gone to waste.

The Suns’ membership base has dropped slightly since the first season (14,000 to 13,500) while average crowds from 2011 to 2014 also dropped (although they did rise from 2013 to 2014).

Should such modest numbers be a concern for the AFL given the Gold Coast was seen as their untapped frontier for football?

A piece written by a Fitzroy supporter in The Guardian passionately bemoans the loss of his club and calls for their reinstatement (at Brisbane’s expense).

The question it raises is an interesting one. Is it wrong that millions are poured into northern expansion ventures, when a historic club like Fitzroy was left to fold.

That the Suns have received so much support and given so little with a playing group in a state of crisis, only adds poignancy to Fitzroy’s plight.
A “pub team” with a “miserable culture”

On Melbourne radio, Hawthorn legend Jason Dunstall said the Suns have a “miserable culture” while in the same broadcast, journalist Damien Barrett noted that when coach Rodney Eade and former Swans player Nick Malceski got to the club in late 2014, they were shocked with what they found.

Broadcaster Gerard Whateley also wrote that the club’s predicament “looks like blatant disobedience” from the players and that, “in the age of professionalism we have ourselves a pub team”.

“A group living large, happy to get thrashed and get pissed. Or in a novel twist, get pissed and then get thrashed.”

This season alone Harley Bennell, Brandon Matera, Trent McKenzie, Danny Stanley, Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin have been suspended because of drinking-related misdemeanours.

Bennell, Matera, McKenzie and Dixon are all considered future stars of the game so their transgressions are concerning, although it is certainly not the first time young sports stars have played up.

There are redeeming factors for the Gold Coast Suns and with all the support they’ve had they will likely one day produce a premiership.

Given the investment it would not look good for them to fail in the long run.

Eade is a no-nonsense coach and while his tough approach may be jarring while in its early stages, you’d hope these players will adjust and eventually benefit from it.

It has also been a torrid year for injuries at the club with a legnthy list that includes Gary Ablett, Jaegar O’Meara, Sam Day, Brandon Matera, Dion Prestia and David Swallow.

Those names represent a significant pool of talent sitting on the sidelines.

But as it stands the club looks to be on its knees and it is the first time they find themselves at a significant crossroads.
What the Suns have cost the AFL

- 2009 AFL invested $10 million in $130 million upgrade of Carrara
– 2010 AFL invested $24 million between Gold Coast and GWS
– 2011 AFL gave Gold Coast a $16.8 million ‘Funding Package’
– 2012 shared $19 million with GWS, got $500,000 from Club Future Fund and $2.1 million listed as ‘other’
- 2013 the Suns’ and GWS shared a $20.2 million handout
*** AFL reportedly paid 60 per cent of Karmichael Hunt’s $1 million a year salary from 2010-2014
Extra help:

- 2009 priority access to best 20 17-year-old Queensland players
– 2010 first five picks in Rookie Draft
– 2011 Draft picks 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 26, 43 and $1 million extra in salary cap
– 2012 $800,000 extra in salary cap
– 2013 $600,000 extra in salary cap
– 2014 $400,000 extra in salary cap
– 2015 operates like every other AFL club
What Western Bulldogs got during the same period:

- 2009 $1.7 million from AFL “special distribution fund”
– 2010 $1.7 million from AFL “special distribution fund”
– 2011 Not specified, although 2011 Financial Report says Bulldogs get 10.2 per cent of Club Future Fund Distribution between 2012-16 (the most, tied with North Melbourne)
– 2012 $2.9 million from Club Future Fund and $3.1 million labelled as ‘other’
– 2013 not listed in Annual Report

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:33 am
by Xman
thanks for pointing out the obvious, for the effort poured in to the suns they are hopelessly underperforming

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:34 am
by Beaussie
Xman wrote:
thanks for pointing out the obvious, for the effort poured in to the suns they are hopelessly underperforming
I think that is a little unfair when you consider their injury list this season. I didn't realise just how long it was until viewing the Suns vs Swans game the other night and they put up the list of injured Suns with what would be the equivalent Swans injury list. Thought to myself when I saw some of the names on the Swans list, we'd be in the same boat and struggling to win a game. Feel sorry for the Suns actually. Just goes to show how injuries can totally derail what was expected to be a promising season.

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:41 am
by Xman
Beaussie wrote:
Xman wrote:
thanks for pointing out the obvious, for the effort poured in to the suns they are hopelessly underperforming
I think that is a little unfair when you consider their injury list this season. I didn't realise just how long it was until viewing the Suns vs Swans game the other night and they put up the list of injured Suns with what would be the equivalent Swans injury list. Thought to myself when I saw some of the names on the Swans list, we'd be in the same boat and struggling to win a game. Feel sorry for the Suns actually. Just goes to show how injuries can totally derail what was expected to be a promising season.
I agree theyve had injuries, but they havent helped themselves with off field behaviour either

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:45 am
by Beaussie
Xman wrote:
Beaussie wrote:
Xman wrote:
thanks for pointing out the obvious, for the effort poured in to the suns they are hopelessly underperforming
I think that is a little unfair when you consider their injury list this season. I didn't realise just how long it was until viewing the Suns vs Swans game the other night and they put up the list of injured Suns with what would be the equivalent Swans injury list. Thought to myself when I saw some of the names on the Swans list, we'd be in the same boat and struggling to win a game. Feel sorry for the Suns actually. Just goes to show how injuries can totally derail what was expected to be a promising season.
I agree theyve had injuries, but they havent helped themselves with off field behaviour either
Yeah agree that the off field behaviour issues are a concern. Can't help but think that is linked with on field performance too and not sure Eade is the best coach to lead them.

Re: the Thuns !!

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:48 am
by Xman
yes, coach and player havent exactly gelled. I wonder if Eade's level of accountability is above what theyve been used to and some of the players arent happy