Talking Footy

Raiderdave wrote:

wow

it would appear all VFL clubs would disappear up their own arseholes .. if it weren't for poker machine revenue

I wonder how that sits with all those fumblers who claim its immoral & unethical for sports franchises to rely on the misery of gambling addicts to operate
they waved their figures & lectured us on this

we're community based member driven clubs & they provide all we need
oh my
now that appears to be nothing but verbal farts from the most hypocritical sport on the planet & its even more hypocritical fans

for shame
for shame

Swans4ever wrote:

AFLcrap1 wrote:

AFL clubs claim rent for pokies venues, new signage as "community benefits"

Grant Baker and Eliza Sewell
Herald Sun
December 19, 2013 7:00PM


THE cost of running a pokies venue continues to be claimed as a community benefit by AFL clubs.

Pokie clubs operated by AFL teams must use a minimum of 8.3 per cent of their revenue to benefit the community to receive a tax break.

Monash University gambling expert Dr Charles Livingstone said the definition of "community benefit'' was too broad and some clubs claimed football-related expenses.

"How community purposes are defined is so loose that you could drive several thousand trucks through it," Livingstone said.

"It includes things like operating costs, wage bill, electricity, insurance.

"It's very, very easy for clubs (poker machine venues) to claim that 8.33 per cent without actually giving anything to a genuine community group.

"In the case of AFL clubs … it often includes the cost of running the social club and rebuilding bits and pieces."

The biggest "community benefit" across all clubs was the operating cost of venues, for example $870,000 for rent, wages and running costs at Collingwood's The Coach and Horses in Ringwood.

All four of Carlton's pokie venues claimed the cost of maintaining Visy Park, the Blues' home base, as a community benefit.

Of the nine Victorian clubs with pokies, the Western Bulldogs were the only club to spend any of its community benefit money on the prevention and treatment of problem gambling.

Collingwood nominated a gift that relates to "sausages given to Auskick for their fundraising activities" but also sponsored the Caroline Springs Football Club.

Essendon claimed $308,00 for maintenance of Windy Hill oval "for use by the community". The Bombers also claimed pay TV and discounted meals for members and visitors to its community club.

Geelong claimed costs relating to "football training", the installation of LED signage, construction of a corporate function room and interest and principal repayments on a refurbishment loan.

The Cats donated $20,000 to the Headspace youth mental health program.

Not-for-profit clubs pay 8.33 per cent less tax on pokies profits compared with pubs.

Dr Livingstone said clubs could take steps to help the community and minimise potential damage to punters.

"I think the best thing the AFL clubs could do would be, not necessarily to get out of pokies but to implement some reasonable harm minimisation measures such as $1 bets," he said.

"The impact on their revenue of using $1 bets would be modest - but it would be a magnificent demonstration of how easy it is to implement social reform and demonstrate that they were actually interested in the wellbeing of people."

WHAT A FUCKING HYPOCRITE - AND HE ACCUSES AFL FANS OF BEING LIARS! TALKING ABOUT TAKING THE MORAL HIGH GROUND WHEN YOU BUILT YOUR WHOLE COMPETITION ON POKIES - A BIG HYPOCRITE!

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wow

it would appear all VFL clubs would disappear up their own arseholes .. if it weren't for poker machine revenue

I wonder how that sits with all those fumblers who claim its immoral & unethical for sports franchises to rely on the misery of gambling addicts to operate
they waved their figures & lectured us on this

we're community based member driven clubs & they provide all we need
oh my
now that appears to be nothing but verbal farts from the most hypocritical sport on the planet & its even more hypocritical fans

for shame
for shame

And how long have the Sydney clubs been relying on such revenue? A lot longer than the AFL clubs have!!

Hypocrite alert!

Phelpsy wrote:

I think AFL people just don't care as much about it as maybe you do acrap. It's just a game of sport ... I'm not sure why the passionate hate if all things AFL but all power to you my friend . Just remember, hate will only eat you up and spit you out ... When you're more passionate about hating something than those you're preaching to you're really only getting yourself all worked up over something they don't care about as much as you. Merry Christmas man and hopefully you get to move on.

Phelpsy wrote:

Collingwood don't rely on pokies. They earn a decent quid but it is just one revenue stream. They get as much from membership I think and merchandise .

Phelpsy wrote:

Yeah, I can see you've been hurt pretty bad in the past and felt unduly treated. If I felt that way I would be mad too.

Raiderdave wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wow

it would appear all VFL clubs would disappear up their own arseholes .. if it weren't for poker machine revenue

I wonder how that sits with all those fumblers who claim its immoral & unethical for sports franchises to rely on the misery of gambling addicts to operate
they waved their figures & lectured us on this

we're community based member driven clubs & they provide all we need
oh my
now that appears to be nothing but verbal farts from the most hypocritical sport on the planet & its even more hypocritical fans

for shame
for shame

And how long have the Sydney clubs been relying on such revenue? A lot longer than the AFL clubs have!!

Hypocrite alert!

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the point ... look it up on google you twat
who said NRL clubs don't rely on it

but once again for our halfwit wannabe fumblers

we don't pretend to be bastions of morality
we lecture others on their use of this form of revenue raising

we aren't ..... deadshit hypocrites
like the VFL