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The NRL has yet to recieve their first payment. I have seen different newspaper artciles quote different dates but the earliest I have seen in December this year. I could be wrong though.
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http://www.sportal.com.au/league-news-d ... ter-204087
NRL receive funding from broadcaster

The NRL have secured $30 million from Channel Nine as the television network announced their financial future is assured.

Channel Nine have been in negotiations with major lenders this week to resolve $3.2 million in debt and reached an agreement on Wednesday to wipe the slate clean, allowing the network to complete their first payment to the NRL of a $1 billion television rights deal over five years.

The Australian Rugby League Commission have confirmed $8 million of the payment from Channel Nine will be immediately distributed **** the clubs.

"From the moment we signed the Heads of Agreement with our broadcast partners we have been working towards providing this payment to the clubs," ARLC interim CEO, Shane Mattiske said.

"This afternoon we reached a point where Nine was sufficiently comfortable to make the payment.

"This is just the start of the benefits the new broadcast rights deal will provide to the game's stakeholders over the term of the agreement but it is a significant step for the clubs.
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Xman wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Xman wrote:
thats the same source, just an increase. Its locked in for another 5 years. It still leaves the nRL miles behind the AFL in terms of revenue. As I said, the AFL can cut costs. How are the NRL going to increase revenue given they are miles behind even with their new TV deal?
The revenue figures(NRL/170m , AFL/330m) were pointed out prior to the NRL's TV contract. Formerly about $90m per year , now 200m per year . An increase of 110m. Meaning the NRL's yearly revenue has jumped from $170m to $280m .Still 50m a year short of the AFL, but that's just one area. It stands to reason that the NRL will also see increases in other areas such as radio, I.T., naming rights etc. Meaning the NRL have similar revenue and do not run at a loss each year.
And where did you get the AFL figure from genius? Last year? Hmmmm, previous TV deal chump :roll:
I think Pussy used the 2010 figure which was about 330 million. This is from the 2011 AFL CEO report page 17

http://www.AFL.com.au/portals/0/2012/af ... t_2011.pdf

Total AFL revenue increased by $7 million or two per cent
to $343 million.

In 2012 you can add an extra 100 million for a total of 433 million due to the TV deal (at least that is the way that I see it). This is compared to the NRL which in 2012 would still be at your figure of 170 million )2013 will be different, they may get the 90 million down payment we will see). So in 2012 the NRL will have about 40% of the AFLs revenue.

Also to address PussyCats other false statement that the AFL has lost money 4 out of the last 5 years. He has gotten it backwards. The AFL has made a profit 4 out of the last 5 years.
2007 about 27 million dollar profit
2008 about 19 million dollar profit
2009 about 2 million dollar profit
2010 about 5 million dollar profit
2011 about 24 million dollar loss

maybe I am reading it incorrectly but look on page 119 of the above annual report.
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The article, concerning revenue was pointed out in a newspaper report in the lead up to the N RL TV contract . So I think its pretty safe to assume they were talking about the latest figure and as such would include the AFL's TV contract.

As far as recievership goes, the AFL may not be there just yet but are headed that way.
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pussycat wrote:
The article, concerning revenue was pointed out in a newspaper report in the lead up to the N RL TV contract . So I think its pretty safe to assume they were talking about the latest figure and as such would include the AFL's TV contract.

As far as recievership goes, the AFL may not be there just yet but are headed that way.
How many times do you need to be told? The AFLs annual report from last showed a revenue of 340M EXCLUDING the additional 100M from this years new TV rights.

So even when the NRL get their new TV money they will still be 150-200M behind the AFL each year.

This year they will be 300M behind because our new deal kicked in this year and yours hasnt. 300M, thats what, double your yearly revenue? :lol:
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And that is what I said basically $330m , but if you want to be exact it was about 335m .
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pussycat wrote:
And that is what I said basically $330m , but if you want to be exact it was about 335m .
last year yes. This year its closer to 450M with the additional TV money. So, again, the NRL and AFL are not even close revenue wise. Not to mention many AFL clubs have triple the "football" budget of NRL teams.
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pussycat wrote:
And that is what I said basically $330m , but if you want to be exact it was about 335m .

Look at my post above. In it is the exact figure for 2011 revenue: 343 million its from the CEO/AFL anual report so it is exact (see link). Ignore it if you want or call it false I dont really care, but if you want to make up your own figures without any links you just look stupid.
The 2012 report which will come out in January will have the extra TV money so get ready for 420-450 million dollars of revenue.
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Junior wrote:
http://www.sportal.com.au/league-news-d ... ter-204087
NRL receive funding from broadcaster

The NRL have secured $30 million from Channel Nine as the television network announced their financial future is assured.

Channel Nine have been in negotiations with major lenders this week to resolve $3.2 million in debt and reached an agreement on Wednesday to wipe the slate clean, allowing the network to complete their first payment to the NRL of a $1 billion television rights deal over five years.

The Australian Rugby League Commission have confirmed $8 million of the payment from Channel Nine will be immediately distributed **** the clubs.

"From the moment we signed the Heads of Agreement with our broadcast partners we have been working towards providing this payment to the clubs," ARLC interim CEO, Shane Mattiske said.

"This afternoon we reached a point where Nine was sufficiently comfortable to make the payment.

"This is just the start of the benefits the new broadcast rights deal will provide to the game's stakeholders over the term of the agreement but it is a significant step for the clubs.

Ty Junior for the info. So 8 million has been payed from C9 already (good to see someone who knows how to provide good info in their first post). I thought there was a 90 million dollar payment from perhaps fox comming in December (is that right?). 8 million is good but its just the tip of the iceberg im sure.
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http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/a/Ess ... ofit/10212

Essendon makes a 2.5 million dollar profit.
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http://www.geelongcats.com.au/geelongne ... fault.aspx

Cats make 300K which is there 13th straight profit.
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piesman2011 wrote:
http://www.geelongcats.com.au/geelongne ... fault.aspx

Cats make 300K which is there 13th straight profit.
Not bad for a club that's investing in its own stadium upgrade.
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http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/weste ... fault.aspx

Dogs loose 100K first loss in 5 years.
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Cats will be raking it in next year with the bigger crowds at home.
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Xman wrote:
pussycat wrote:
The article, concerning revenue was pointed out in a newspaper report in the lead up to the N RL TV contract . So I think its pretty safe to assume they were talking about the latest figure and as such would include the AFL's TV contract.

As far as recievership goes, the AFL may not be there just yet but are headed that way.
So even when the NRL get their new TV money they will still be 150-200M behind the AFL each year.

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please explain how ?
get those pudgey little fingers of yours on that VFL calculator & ...... try again

the present NRL revenue is about 170m .. that includes the present annual 83m a year for TV
thats going up to at least 250m a year ... possibly a tad more

our revenue doubles to 340 to 350 Million a year
the VFL's 420 to 440 Million

how is that 200 million behind marcus ?

its less then 100 million
then we consider the VFL having to fund 2 black holes ( that the NRL doesn't have ) to the tune of 40 Million a year ... minimum
& that gap which WAS quite large .... has been given a right shallacking .... overnight :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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