Tanking in AFL according to bigfooty members

[Xman]

A youth policy is not new when rebuilding a sporting team. Just ask Ewen McKenzie, or perversely, Rod McQueen when he established the Brumbies.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/16/ba ... o-success/

[King-Eliagh]

The Roar? ....

Xman just admit it, yuou like tanking and wish for it to continue in the AFL.

[Xman]

Time will tell as to whether they are good enough, but it is imperative the selectors persist with a youth policy. Chopping and changing and expecting to find experienced, 30 year old state cricketers to replace past champions is no way to build a test team for the long-term future.
As a nation we have been spoiled with the likes of Warne, McGrath, Hayden, Ponting, Gilchrist, Langer and the Waugh’s in the side at the same time. Such an assembly of champions in one team may never be seen again in any test side across the globe, let alone Australia.
It was an era where players like McGill, Fleming, Bichel, Hodge and even Katich were at times consigned to the fringes of the team. Players like Simon Cook burst on the scene with five wicket hauls and were out of the side a couple of weeks later.
Those days are gone for now and they will not return when you do not give young players time to settle. Good test cricketers are created by difficult encounters in test cricket.
Langer’s baptism of fire came in 1992/93 against the West Indies in Adelaide when he grinded out a gritty 54 in that famous one run loss. Ponting endured a horror patch in 1999 against Pakistan making three consecutive ducks after a quiet period and then exploded with consecutive tons including 197 on a Perth deck facing the likes of Wasim Akram and Shoaib Akhtar.
Warne’s initial test figures read 1/150, 0/18, 0/60, 0/107, 3/11, 0/40 and 1/65 before breaking through with 7/52. Even after the breakthrough it wasn’t smooth sailing as he endured three more tests only taking two wickets before it all came together.
Could you imagine what might have happened to Warne in 2010 had he commenced with the same figures? Sure champions will always prevail but there’s no doubt Warne was nurtured and given time within the national team environment.
Struggles to make the grade in test cricket is a rite of passage and whilst a young test side will mean more pain in our results in the short-term future, the persistence in a youth policy will sort the men from the boys and mould Australia back into a match hardened, tough, arrogant and (most importantly) winning test nation ready to take back The Ashes on English soil in 2013.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/01/04/yo ... selectors/

[TLPG]

I have to say this again;

What Bailey did is NOT TANKING!!

You don't know what tanking is, KE, so just SHUT THE HELL UP!! I suppose you would accuse clubs in the last round of tanking just because they rested players ready for the finals? They do that even in the NRL, idiot! But by your definition, that's tanking and it should be stopped!

You're an OH&S threat to sport in general, and it's further proof that you've never played a game in your life.

[King-Eliagh]

TLPG you dont have to say it again. We remember this false statement of yours.

As for Xman, I'm sorry but that is not what tanking is about. You should get a bit more educated and read up on tanking more.

[Xman]

TLPG you dont have to say it again. We remember this false statement of yours.

As for Xman, I'm sorry but that is not what tanking is about. You should get a bit more educated and read up on tanking more.

Really? This is exactly what AFL teams do. Develop their team by playing youth over experience. They also value long term team development over short term winning.

Case closed.

[King-Eliagh]

You havent read up on tanking now have you. tsk tsk tsk

[Xman]

You havent read up on tanking now have you. tsk tsk tsk

What I described is exactly what AFL teams do, nothing more, and you have no evidence to the contrary.

There there......

[TLPG]

You havent read up on tanking now have you. tsk tsk tsk

No, you haven't - stupid troll. You need your head punched in because I think there's no other way to deal with you now.

[eelofwest]

You havent read up on tanking now have you. tsk tsk tsk

Wow tanking being talked about on bigfooty as a good option for the top sides to make the comp closer

Quote:
Originally Posted by dumb View Post
can we at least wait until we see the team sheets?
This.

And the only way to respond if they are offended is give them a fright on field.

Hawthorn were able to do it last year but only because their spot was cemented. Huge outs and a close match as a result. Might be better for the comp if more teams do that.

Re: Should GWS be offended
Most teams will do it this year, Carlton have just been more open about it.

West Coast had Priddis, Glass and Kerr all miss their clash with GWS with apparent 1 week injuries.

Surprise, surprise they all are fine for the following game.

Like it or not GWS and GC ( except for the odd team that chances their luck too much) are bye games.

You go in expecting the 4 points, hoping you don't get injuries, resting players that may add to your team in more difficult games and allowing you to blood young kids who may exposed in a harder game.

GC and GWS supporters won't like but they accepted that situation when they hoarded the first round picks and did not sign players who could contribute immediately.

For the reasons set out above that is also why teams who play them more often than not do not pass the line set for them in the betting.

The team that plays GC or GWS gets a winning lead, sits on the lead and incrementally increasing the lead as their kids get game time and they try to come out injury free.

Someone will lose to them but the teams playing them will win a lot more than they lose.

Expansion fail much....

What this tells me is that the bottom teams are worse then first though with teams resting there best to make a game of it.
And it also shows that AFL fans are aware of the tanking problems in the AFL.

[Xman]

You havent read up on tanking now have you. tsk tsk tsk

Wow tanking being talked about on bigfooty as a good option for the top sides to make the comp closer

Quote:
Originally Posted by dumb View Post
can we at least wait until we see the team sheets?
This.

And the only way to respond if they are offended is give them a fright on field.

Hawthorn were able to do it last year but only because their spot was cemented. Huge outs and a close match as a result. Might be better for the comp if more teams do that.

Re: Should GWS be offended
Most teams will do it this year, Carlton have just been more open about it.

West Coast had Priddis, Glass and Kerr all miss their clash with GWS with apparent 1 week injuries.

Surprise, surprise they all are fine for the following game.

What this tells me is that the bottom teams are worse then first though with teams resting there best to make a game of it.
And it also shows that AFL fans are aware of the tanking problems in the AFL.

OMG you really are a dumbass!

Resting players = making a game of it= tanking!

[TLPG]

With the pace the game is being played it makes perfect sense to rest players for certain games.

Needed to be said.

[King-Eliagh]

Tanking must be stopped in the AFL. Its a blight on our game and thankfully the AFL are taking actions to stop it. Imagine if TLPG and Xman were in charge? It'd be tank city! But luckily all evidence points to the AFL taking action against tanking and things are being done. Proof that it exists but i must say I don think the AFL is doing enough as, by the looks of it, we're set for the biggest tankfest ever seen in professional sports, right here on australian soil in the AFL comp in 2012.

May god help the AFL. Because it looks like the problems gunna be massive!

[Xman]

Tanking must be stopped in the AFL. Its a blight on our game and thankfully the AFL are taking actions to stop it. Imagine if TLPG and Xman were in charge? It'd be tank city! But luckily all evidence points to the AFL taking action against tanking and things are being done. Proof that it exists but i must say I don think the AFL is doing enough as, by the looks of it, we're set for the biggest tankfest ever seen in professional sports, right here on australian soil in the AFL comp in 2012.

May god help the AFL. Because it looks like the problems gunna be massive!

How can you comment on a topic you don't even understand?

[King-Eliagh]

Hey im the one whos done the reading on the definition of tanking. You havent done diddly research. Woeful. I know more than you about this topic so until you get out there and do some learning...then come back to me.